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Title: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 15 September 2025, 19:24:34
Mid-range model, so only 1 motor and a paltry 400 BHP. It went well enough, though. Wouldn't buy one new, as I imagine it will depreciate like falling off a high cliff. And there is also the government Luxury Theft Tax to consider, which runs for the first 5 years regardless of whether you are the first owner or not. Rachel from Accounts needs to raise this from £40,000 to something like £100,000.

I mean, how can you have a luxury tax applied to a Chinky built MG? It's ridiculous.

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Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: TheBoy on 16 September 2025, 09:46:58
Rachel from Accounts needs to raise this from £40,000 to something like £100,000.
At the risk of sounding like a right wing thug, there are illegal immigrants to put up in posh hotels, and the lame and lazy to pay for.
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 16 September 2025, 12:14:21
Rachel from Accounts needs to raise this from £40,000 to something like £100,000.
At the risk of sounding like a right wing thug, there are illegal immigrants to put up in posh hotels, and the lame and lazy to pay for.

I think you should be forced to attend a diversity and inclusion course. >:D ;D :D ;)
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: YZ250 on 16 September 2025, 14:23:36
According to my Lens Recognition App that's an IM5, sold over here as an MG EV.
Your "Hell will freeze over before I even consider an EV" statement requires a bit of fine tuning.  ::)  :)
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 16 September 2025, 14:35:21
According to my Lens Recognition App that's an IM5, sold over here as an MG EV.
Your "Hell will freeze over before I even consider an EV" statement requires a bit of fine tuning.  ::)  :)

Correct. :y

Looks pretty generic to my eyes and I imagine most people would think it is a Tesla.


Dual motor version comes with 750BHP... :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: YZ250 on 16 September 2025, 14:47:03
According to my Lens Recognition App that's an IM5, sold over here as an MG EV.
Your "Hell will freeze over before I even consider an EV" statement requires a bit of fine tuning.  ::)  :)

Correct. :y

Looks pretty generic to my eyes and I imagine most people would think it is a Tesla.


Dual motor version comes with 750BHP... :o :o :o :o

From the photos it actually looks ok'ish, apart from the Lego wheels, but then all EV'S appear to go down that route with the wheels.  :-\
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: Viral_Jim on 16 September 2025, 15:24:10
This the model 3 and the BYD seal all look pretty similar to me. In a few years this should represent a good chunk of performance for the money  :y
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 16 September 2025, 16:27:21
According to my Lens Recognition App that's an IM5, sold over here as an MG EV.
Your "Hell will freeze over before I even consider an EV" statement requires a bit of fine tuning.  ::)  :)

Correct. :y

Looks pretty generic to my eyes and I imagine most people would think it is a Tesla.


Dual motor version comes with 750BHP... :o :o :o :o

From the photos it actually looks ok'ish, apart from the Lego wheels, but then all EV'S appear to go down that route with the wheels.  :-\

Aerodynamics are very important for milk floats, even the wheels.

As is the rolling resistance of the tyres.
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 16 September 2025, 16:29:56
This the model 3 and the BYD seal all look pretty similar to me. In a few years this should represent a good chunk of performance for the money  :y

Agreed. I think the arse end looks similar to Ed Straker's car from UFO. ::)
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 16 September 2025, 18:37:09
You remind me of my Uncle who when I was a kid would only ride British motorcycles. Bonneville's, Commando's etc.  He hated Japanese bikes and referred to them as Crapanese.  :)

One fateful day he took his latest Bonneville in for service and they convinced him to test ride a Suzuki GS850. He came home with it, never had a British bike again, and thought that Japanese bikes were the best thing since sliced bread!  ;D
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 16 September 2025, 18:45:39
You remind me of my Uncle who when I was a kid would only ride British motorcycles. Bonneville's, Commando's etc.  He hated Japanese bikes and referred to them as Crapanese.  :)

One fateful day he took his latest Bonneville in for service and they convinced him to test ride a Suzuki GS850. He came home with it, never had a British bike again, and thought that Japanese bikes were the best thing since sliced bread!  ;D

I've not owned a British bike.

All Jap when I bought my first age 16. It was just old men who rode Brit bikes that leaked oil and wouldn't start.

However, I'd be happy to own a modern 3 pot 2500cc Triumph Rocket 3. :y
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: YZ250 on 16 September 2025, 18:50:39
You remind me of my Uncle who when I was a kid would only ride British motorcycles. Bonneville's, Commando's etc.  He hated Japanese bikes and referred to them as Crapanese.  :)

One fateful day he took his latest Bonneville in for service and they convinced him to test ride a Suzuki GS850. He came home with it, never had a British bike again, and thought that Japanese bikes were the best thing since sliced bread!  ;D

My Dad had British bikes and that was his thinking also.  :y  I had Japanese bikes and apart from the easy starting of Jap bikes compared to British bikes, the oil that you put in a Japanese bike actually stayed in the bike.  ;D  Even my Dad had to concede that point.  :y
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 16 September 2025, 18:59:19
You remind me of my Uncle who when I was a kid would only ride British motorcycles. Bonneville's, Commando's etc.  He hated Japanese bikes and referred to them as Crapanese.  :)

One fateful day he took his latest Bonneville in for service and they convinced him to test ride a Suzuki GS850. He came home with it, never had a British bike again, and thought that Japanese bikes were the best thing since sliced bread!  ;D

My Dad had British bikes and that was his thinking also.  :y  I had Japanese bikes and apart from the easy starting of Jap bikes compared to British bikes, the oil that you put in a Japanese bike actually stayed in the bike.  ;D  Even my Dad had to concede that point.  :y

Most Brit iron came with engineering dating back to the 1930's, so was hopelessly out of date. They also had vertically split crankcases that were just perfect for pissing oil all over the garage floor.

The Japs had horizontally split crankcases so didn't tend to leak much......also electric starters so fewer broken ankles when a big twin decided to kick back. >:D 
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 16 September 2025, 19:02:53
You remind me of my Uncle who when I was a kid would only ride British motorcycles. Bonneville's, Commando's etc.  He hated Japanese bikes and referred to them as Crapanese.  :)

One fateful day he took his latest Bonneville in for service and they convinced him to test ride a Suzuki GS850. He came home with it, never had a British bike again, and thought that Japanese bikes were the best thing since sliced bread!  ;D

No leaks.
Electric start.
Shafty.....so no oily chain.

Bit of a fat bastard though. :)
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 16 September 2025, 19:13:08
You remind me of my Uncle who when I was a kid would only ride British motorcycles. Bonneville's, Commando's etc.  He hated Japanese bikes and referred to them as Crapanese.  :)

One fateful day he took his latest Bonneville in for service and they convinced him to test ride a Suzuki GS850. He came home with it, never had a British bike again, and thought that Japanese bikes were the best thing since sliced bread!  ;D

My Dad had British bikes and that was his thinking also.  :y  I had Japanese bikes and apart from the easy starting of Jap bikes compared to British bikes, the oil that you put in a Japanese bike actually stayed in the bike.  ;D  Even my Dad had to concede that point.  :y

Yep my Dad too.  When I was 16 and got my first bike, a Kawasaki AE50, he made me put an old tea tray under it to catch the oil leak.  ::)

When I told him it didn't leak oil, he told me that bikes always leak oil and was amazed when he saw that mine didn't!  ;D
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 16 September 2025, 19:22:54
You remind me of my Uncle who when I was a kid would only ride British motorcycles. Bonneville's, Commando's etc.  He hated Japanese bikes and referred to them as Crapanese.  :)

One fateful day he took his latest Bonneville in for service and they convinced him to test ride a Suzuki GS850. He came home with it, never had a British bike again, and thought that Japanese bikes were the best thing since sliced bread!  ;D

I've not owned a British bike.

All Jap when I bought my first age 16. It was just old men who rode Brit bikes that leaked oil and wouldn't start.

However, I'd be happy to own a modern 3 pot 2500cc Triumph Rocket 3. :y

I often rode my mates Dunstall Norton Commando when I was 16 - until I got caught.
At  the time, the handling was a lot better than Jap bikes, but the vibration through the bars  and foot pegs was unbearable and forever causing bits to come loose and fall off.
Basically,it was a couple of decades out of date, and the build quality was atrocious. Just like most British cars at the time.
I borrowed a Trident for an hour (also when I was 16) and that was a lot better, but still felt like an old steam engine compared to Jap bikes.
Having said that my first Kawasaki triple blew the crank seals at quite low mileage which rendered the engine scrap.
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 17 September 2025, 11:04:42
According to my Lens Recognition App that's an IM5, sold over here as an MG EV.
Your "Hell will freeze over before I even consider an EV" statement requires a bit of fine tuning.  ::)  :)

I've certainly said something similar about derv, and I stand by that. :y
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: YZ250 on 17 September 2025, 21:03:10
According to my Lens Recognition App that's an IM5, sold over here as an MG EV.
Your "Hell will freeze over before I even consider an EV" statement requires a bit of fine tuning.  ::)  :)

Correct. :y

Looks pretty generic to my eyes and I imagine most people would think it is a Tesla.


Dual motor version comes with 750BHP... :o :o :o :o

From the photos it actually looks ok'ish, apart from the Lego wheels, but then all EV'S appear to go down that route with the wheels.  :-\

Aerodynamics are very important for milk floats, even the wheels.

As is the rolling resistance of the tyres.

Hmm, maybe it’s the angle of your photos but I’ve just watched several reviews of the IM5 and none of them had LEGO wheels, just normal’ish alloys.  :-\
EDIT: Ah, It appears that the lower spec model has LEGO wheels.

Although the reviews come across as fairly ok, the steering wheel has just one scroll wheel on either side of the wheel. It appears that the complete menu for any car set-up or adjustments has to be selected from the lower screen using these scroll wheels but I may be wrong. How in the Lords name can that be deemed as safe. “Yes officer, I ran over those people because I was adjusting the settings to demist the screen/setting my cruise control etc, and it required six menu choices before I got to the one I wanted”.
Is this really the future.  :-\
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 18 September 2025, 11:14:47
According to my Lens Recognition App that's an IM5, sold over here as an MG EV.
Your "Hell will freeze over before I even consider an EV" statement requires a bit of fine tuning.  ::)  :)

Correct. :y

Looks pretty generic to my eyes and I imagine most people would think it is a Tesla.


Dual motor version comes with 750BHP... :o :o :o :o

From the photos it actually looks ok'ish, apart from the Lego wheels, but then all EV'S appear to go down that route with the wheels.  :-\

Aerodynamics are very important for milk floats, even the wheels.

As is the rolling resistance of the tyres.

Hmm, maybe it’s the angle of your photos but I’ve just watched several reviews of the IM5 and none of them had LEGO wheels, just normal’ish alloys.  :-\
EDIT: Ah, It appears that the lower spec model has LEGO wheels.

Although the reviews come across as fairly ok, the steering wheel has just one scroll wheel on either side of the wheel. It appears that the complete menu for any car set-up or adjustments has to be selected from the lower screen using these scroll wheels but I may be wrong. How in the Lords name can that be deemed as safe. “Yes officer, I ran over those people because I was adjusting the settings to demist the screen/setting my cruise control etc, and it required six menu choices before I got to the one I wanted”.
Is this really the future.  :-\

Many so called 'progressive' car manufacturer's exchanged buttons for touchscreen to show where the future lay. Now customers are telling them they prefer   good old-fashioned buttons because they work better.

Buttons work better and car makers are starting to see the error of their ways.
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 18 September 2025, 11:18:40
Well if they stop sellotaping a big TV screen to the dashboard, that can only be a good thing!  ::)  :y
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: TheBoy on 18 September 2025, 11:34:03
As is the rolling resistance of the tyres.
Hence the Tesla specific Michelin PS4 come with 6mm tread from new, rather than the standard 8.5mm
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 18 September 2025, 11:52:22
As is the rolling resistance of the tyres.
Hence the Tesla specific Michelin PS4 come with 6mm tread from new, rather than the standard 8.5mm

I hear low rolling resistance tyres have longer braking distances, especially when wet. :-\
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: TheBoy on 18 September 2025, 11:57:02
As is the rolling resistance of the tyres.
Hence the Tesla specific Michelin PS4 come with 6mm tread from new, rather than the standard 8.5mm

I hear low rolling resistance tyres have longer braking distances, especially when wet. :-\
Low resistance = low grip. Simples.

So our buddy Sir Tig is saving the world with his cheap, chiny tyres.  Not withstanding he crashes a lot, or drives slower than Tunnie.
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 18 September 2025, 12:30:25
Just watched a video from John Cadogen about the MG3 safety rating.

Went from 3 to 4 stars just by adding electrickery to it. Not withstanding that the drivers seat sheared off in multiple tests.

I would rather crash in a MK1 A Class than any Chinky shit box.
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 18 September 2025, 17:07:55
Just watched a video from John Cadogen about the MG3 safety rating.

Went from 3 to 4 stars just by adding electrickery to it. Not withstanding that the drivers seat sheared off in multiple tests.

I would rather crash in a MK1 A Class than any Chinky shit box.

Is this the one that failed the elk test many moons ago?
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: TheBoy on 18 September 2025, 20:24:01
Just watched a video from John Cadogen about the MG3 safety rating.

Went from 3 to 4 stars just by adding electrickery to it. Not withstanding that the drivers seat sheared off in multiple tests.

I would rather crash in a MK1 A Class than any Chinky shit box.

Is this the one that failed the elk test many moons ago?
But DG wants to die and be buried in a crap Merc ;D
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 18 September 2025, 20:55:01
Just watched a video from John Cadogen about the MG3 safety rating.

Went from 3 to 4 stars just by adding electrickery to it. Not withstanding that the drivers seat sheared off in multiple tests.

I would rather crash in a MK1 A Class than any Chinky shit box.

Is this the one that failed the elk test many moons ago?
They recalled them and fixed them ;)
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 18 September 2025, 21:00:07
Just watched a video from John Cadogen about the MG3 safety rating.

Went from 3 to 4 stars just by adding electrickery to it. Not withstanding that the drivers seat sheared off in multiple tests.

I would rather crash in a MK1 A Class than any Chinky shit box.

Is this the one that failed the elk test many moons ago?
But DG wants to die and be buried in a crap Merc ;D
Absolfluckinglutely :y. At least I will be comfortable and happy.

Besides I would wager that even said A Class is safer than any Chinesium so should be ok in either of my current offerings.
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 20 September 2025, 11:21:51
If I was to buy another Merc I'd go down the traditional ye olde built from granite route.

300SEL 6.3....a proper cold war car. Or maybe even the later  450SEL 6.9. :y
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 20 September 2025, 11:30:36
The 6.9 in gunmetal with either a tan or navy interior would be my preferred classic of choice. Should have bought one in the late '90s when a mechanically sound 6.9 needing cosmetics was ~£2,500 ::)

Any really nice W116 would do though. Or a resto mod with the running gear from the w220 S500.
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 20 September 2025, 12:32:00
The 6.9 in gunmetal with either a tan or navy interior would be my preferred classic of choice. Should have bought one in the late '90s when a mechanically sound 6.9 needing cosmetics was ~£2,500 ::)

Any really nice W116 would do though. Or a resto mod with the running gear from the w220 S500.

How much now for a usable car?
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 20 September 2025, 14:20:04
£25k and up
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 20 September 2025, 16:09:23
£25k and up

Ah....OK.

I was thinking, and hoping, sub £10,000. ::)
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 20 September 2025, 16:43:14
£25k and up

Ah....OK.

I was thinking, and hoping, sub £10,000. ::)

No Autotrader link....  :-\                 He's slacking!  ;D
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 20 September 2025, 17:08:49
£25k and up

Ah....OK.

I was thinking, and hoping, sub £10,000. ::)

No Autotrader link....  :-\                 He's slacking!  ;D
I've done my good deed this week...

Mate has sold his '68 530d so found him a nice '54 C220cdi local to him. He fobbed it off. Anyhoo, turns out it's being sold by a dealer he knows personally and when he mentioned that his 5 series had sold, they said he could have it for a decent price...

I'll convert him yet >:D
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: BazaJT on 20 September 2025, 18:26:18
My son recently traded in his 2012 Focus Titanium X (full history and he was the only owner) against a new Mustang Mach E  EV (he got $500 for the Focus) now he's had a letter from Ford themselves telling him that as a thank you for buying the Mustang he can now get a 5 cent reduction on every gallon of petrol he puts in it!!
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: YZ250 on 20 September 2025, 22:52:12
My son recently traded in his 2012 Focus Titanium X (full history and he was the only owner) against a new Mustang Mach E  EV (he got $500 for the Focus) now he's had a letter from Ford themselves telling him that as a thank you for buying the Mustang he can now get a 5 cent reduction on every gallon of petrol he puts in it!!

That’ll come in handy then.  ::)  ;D 
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 20 September 2025, 23:30:48
My son recently traded in his 2012 Focus Titanium X (full history and he was the only owner) against a new Mustang Mach E  EV (he got $500 for the Focus) now he's had a letter from Ford themselves telling him that as a thank you for buying the Mustang he can now get a 5 cent reduction on every gallon of petrol he puts in it!!

That’ll come in handy then.  ::)  ;D

Well I suppose he could use it in his lawnmower?  ???   Unless he has an EM of course!  ;D
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: YZ250 on 21 September 2025, 08:58:58
……….
Many so called 'progressive' car manufacturer's exchanged buttons for touchscreen to show where the future lay. Now customers are telling them they prefer   good old-fashioned buttons because they work better.

Buttons work better and car makers are starting to see the error of their ways.

Just been reading that from 2026, the NCAP rating of vehicles with touchscreen dashboards will be heavily penalised due to, wait for it, ‘having to take your eyes off the road to perform basic functions on a touchscreen is dangerous’. Well no shit Sherlock.  ::)  The report said that by 2029/2030 the wider use of touchscreen dashboards may be banned altogether.
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 21 September 2025, 09:19:45
……….
Many so called 'progressive' car manufacturer's exchanged buttons for touchscreen to show where the future lay. Now customers are telling them they prefer   good old-fashioned buttons because they work better.

Buttons work better and car makers are starting to see the error of their ways.

Just been reading that from 2026, the NCAP rating of vehicles with touchscreen dashboards will be heavily penalised due to, wait for it, ‘having to take your eyes off the road to perform basic functions on a touchscreen is dangerous’. Well no shit Sherlock.  ::)  The report said that by 2029/2030 the wider use of touchscreen dashboards may be banned altogether.
And not a hint of irony ::)
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: tunnie on 22 September 2025, 09:12:30
Back to the actual car, other that "goes well" - How did you find it?

Some of the reviews said the ride was very poor, but any other details about it?

I'm still balancing my numbers for when I make the switch, but as it will be via work I won't take the hit of depreciation.
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 22 September 2025, 12:34:42
Back to the actual car, other that "goes well" - How did you find it?

Some of the reviews said the ride was very poor, but any other details about it?

I'm still balancing my numbers for when I make the switch, but as it will be via work I won't take the hit of depreciation.

Overall I was impressed.

It appears to be well made with a good quality interior. Spacious, so plenty of room for a man of your height. I found no problem with the ride. It also has fast charging (400KW)and a long range of 400 miles.

Also, if you buy the slowest model (0-60 in 6.8) if falls below the £40,000 government theft tax.

Give it a try. :y
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: tunnie on 22 September 2025, 16:41:20
Just tried and failed to get a quote via LEX our EV provider for work. Usually this is because of the insurance bit failing, maybe it's so new it's not giving quotes in that.

The 'Performance' version only comes in at £48k list, but I don't know what my monthlies would be.

What's curious about our system is the list price has a varied impact on the cost of the car, presume deprecation and resale but it still odd.

£75k BMW vs £50k Tesla Y = Very similar monthlies.  :-\
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 27 September 2025, 13:41:35
Just tried and failed to get a quote via LEX our EV provider for work. Usually this is because of the insurance bit failing, maybe it's so new it's not giving quotes in that.

The 'Performance' version only comes in at £48k list, but I don't know what my monthlies would be.

What's curious about our system is the list price has a varied impact on the cost of the car, presume deprecation and resale but it still odd.

£75k BMW vs £50k Tesla Y = Very similar monthlies.  :-\


They did the figures for me.

From memory, with a £10,000 deposit, it worked out at £300ish PCM over 3 years......at 2.9%.

Presumably the lower spec car would prove less expensive.

I think there was also £1000 contribution from the dealer plus another £2000 from somewhere else I can't quite recall. So £3000.





Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 27 September 2025, 14:12:01
Just found the quote.....Long range model 400 BHP. Zero to 60 4.9.

£44540.... including paint option.

£10,000 deposit.

£2000 manufacturer deposit contribution.

Interest 1.49%....2.9% APR.

36 monthly payments of £329.60......final payment of £23,134.

Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: YZ250 on 28 September 2025, 22:21:23
Not that I’m a fan of his, but I see Mike Brewer was raving about his EV last year but he’s now got rid of it and returned to petrol, saying the EV was a stupid move.
He cited his reason for getting rid of the EV as ‘He got fed up with sitting in a queue waiting for an available charger’. I’m guessing he’s referring to service stations, as our local garages and supermarkets have plenty of empty, unused bays.  :-\
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 28 September 2025, 23:29:21
Or he's trying to save face without admitting that he took the Chinesium positive marketing money... :-\
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: Kevin Wood on 29 September 2025, 07:42:01
Not that I’m a fan of his, but I see Mike Brewer was raving about his EV last year but he’s now got rid of it and returned to petrol, saying the EV was a stupid move.
He cited his reason for getting rid of the EV as ‘He got fed up with sitting in a queue waiting for an available charger’. I’m guessing he’s referring to service stations, as our local garages and supermarkets have plenty of empty, unused bays.  :-\

As does mine, but it charges 72p a KWh.  ;D
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: Viral_Jim on 29 September 2025, 10:17:04
Or he's trying to save face without admitting that he took the Chinesium positive marketing money... :-\

Or he's flip flopping his narrative on a frankly desperate attempt to keep himself relevant. Like the other sad TV has-bins who moved over to social media...
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: Viral_Jim on 29 September 2025, 10:22:27
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£75k BMW vs £50k Tesla Y = Very similar monthlies.  :-\

I think the two elements you won't see in the calculation are the level of 'manufacturer support'  each car has in the lease market, and yes, depreciation. Tesla for example, I found really variable in there monthlies when I looked over time. What I suspect they were doing is using very variable levels of discounting to lease providers to smooth any drop offs on private sales/leases and then pulling them again when demand was up.

I was going to have a model y, so looked at them over a period of a few months and the payments fluctuated by around £100pcm. Didn't go for it in the end though as swmbo didn't like like it as much as the BMW.
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: TheBoy on 29 September 2025, 10:26:04
Most EV owners I have known personally became evangelical over EVs, right up until the point that they couldn't be bothered with the hassles of them any more (for those that it didn't really work too well for).

Its very telling i my road that many had EVs, now there is not a single EV in the road.  Some have even had the EV chargers removed, so clearly not planning on getting another any time soon.


Though towns like Brakkers probably aren't ideal for EVs, being a commuter town where you either commute 20 miles to a nearby larger town/city/train, or have to do the full London or Birmingham commute.  On the London/Brum commutes, or salesmen commutes, you are in the realms of buying a lot of expensive coffee which using expensive charging. On the shorter commutes, you are going to struggle to get payback on the fuel, added to which leasing schemes have gone up dramatically as the real costs are becoming better understood by the leasing firms and manufacturer schemes, along with the chronic depreciation
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: YZ250 on 30 September 2025, 09:34:07
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Its very telling in my road that many had EVs, now there is not a single EV in the road.  Some have even had the EV chargers removed, so clearly not planning on getting another any time soon.
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Yep, I think the fascination of owning an EV has been a passing fad that is now over. The government are kidding themselves regarding sales but the car manufacturers actions tell us otherwise.

Volkswagen :
Has cut EV production and abandoned plans for a new German EV plant due to poor demand.

Ford :
Has deemed its goal of becoming an EV-only brand by 2030 too ambitious and is considering extending the availability of petrol cars.

Toyota :
Slashed its EV production plans and chairman Akio Toyoda believes EVs will not dominate the market.

Volvo :
Has ditched its plan to become EV-only by 2030.

Honda :
Recently scaled back its investment and sales targets for EVs due to poor demand.

Mercedes-Benz :
Has extended the availability of its internal combustion engine due to slow EV sales.

This is just a small example, there are many others with the same issues.

Infrastructure companies are holding back on installations as the uncertainty makes them nervous about over investing for something that may not succeed.

Doesn't exactly sound like the thriving market they'd love you to believe does it.  :-\

Car manufacturers have been put in an impossible position.
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 30 September 2025, 15:18:09
Seen the new Frontera Ad on TV a couple of times, so just been on AT to have a look, was surprised at the price starting £19,995 to £27,140 so compared to most quite reasonable pricing.

No idea on quality, looked nicer on TV than is does in some of the pics.

Range is poor at 186 miles but maybe ideal for the grandparents as a local run about.
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: STEMO on 30 September 2025, 15:50:38
Seen the new Frontera Ad on TV a couple of times, so just been on AT to have a look, was surprised at the price starting £19,995 to £27,140 so compared to most quite reasonable pricing.

No idea on quality, looked nicer on TV than is does in some of the pics.

Range is poor at 186 miles but maybe ideal for the grandparents as a local run about.
They're not really car ads, are they? Cartoon characters or CGI that tell you absolutely nothing about the car itself.
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: YZ250 on 01 October 2025, 18:33:28
Seen the new Frontera Ad on TV a couple of times, so just been on AT to have a look, was surprised at the price starting £19,995 to £27,140 so compared to most quite reasonable pricing.

No idea on quality, looked nicer on TV than is does in some of the pics.
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Strange looking creature isn’t it. It looks like the designer didn’t know what to do when they got to the rear quarter and just went for a quick finish.  :-\
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: YZ250 on 02 October 2025, 10:04:55
Hmm, was it a car transporter loaded with BYD EV’s that burst into flames on the M5 motorway yesterday?  Should we be suspicious that the lorry cab still has paint on it, whereas the EV’s have been fried. Shouldn’t speculate really as it could have been caused by a discarded cigarette, or the trucks diesel tank.  :-\
Although, this would be in line with the Jaguar I-Pace setting fire to the entire car transporter on the M1 motorway a couple of years back. Oh, and the EV *(definitely an EV this time)* that caught fire in Heathrow Terminal 3 car park yesterday.  :-\

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Fire crew stated that it was an EV Van, and that the fire is being treated as accidental and is believed to have been caused by an electrical fault with the vehicle's lithium-ion battery pack.
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 02 October 2025, 11:20:04
Hmm, was it a car transporter loaded with BYD EV’s that burst into flames on the M5 motorway yesterday?  Should we be suspicious that the lorry cab still has paint on it, whereas the EV’s have been fried. Shouldn’t speculate really as it could have been caused by a discarded cigarette, or the trucks diesel tank.  :-\
Although, this would be in line with the Jaguar I-Pace setting fire to the entire car transporter on the M1 motorway a couple of years back. Oh, and the EV *(definitely an EV this time)* that caught fire in Heathrow Terminal 3 car park yesterday.  :-\

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Fire crew stated that it was an EV Van, and that the fire is being treated as accidental and is believed to have been caused by an electrical fault with the vehicle's lithium-ion battery pack.

I've just had a look outside and where the garage once stood a blackened smoking patch has now taken it's place.

It has also taken the M240i with it.... ::) ::) >:D

Shouldn't joke just in case the big man upstairs doesn't have a sense of humour. >:D
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: ronnyd on 02 October 2025, 11:34:12
Every EV should have the big Manchetts 'dunking tank',that i saw last week, following behind, just like the early days of motoring with the red flag man in front.  :D
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: YZ250 on 02 October 2025, 11:44:29
Hmm, was it a car transporter loaded with BYD EV’s that burst into flames on the M5 motorway yesterday?  Should we be suspicious that the lorry cab still has paint on it, whereas the EV’s have been fried. Shouldn’t speculate really as it could have been caused by a discarded cigarette, or the trucks diesel tank.  :-\
Although, this would be in line with the Jaguar I-Pace setting fire to the entire car transporter on the M1 motorway a couple of years back. Oh, and the EV *(definitely an EV this time)* that caught fire in Heathrow Terminal 3 car park yesterday.  :-\

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Fire crew stated that it was an EV Van, and that the fire is being treated as accidental and is believed to have been caused by an electrical fault with the vehicle's lithium-ion battery pack.

I've just had a look outside and where the garage once stood a blackened smoking patch has now taken it's place.

It has also taken the M240i with it.... ::) ::) >:D

Shouldn't joke just in case the big man upstairs doesn't have a sense of humour. >:D

I believe there was an issue with certain brands of battery so you should be fine now.  :y  To be honest, although they reported that the I-Pace caught fire in transit, it could well have been the trailer brakes that caught fire.  :-\
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 02 October 2025, 13:22:02
Hmm, was it a car transporter loaded with BYD EV’s that burst into flames on the M5 motorway yesterday?  Should we be suspicious that the lorry cab still has paint on it, whereas the EV’s have been fried. Shouldn’t speculate really as it could have been caused by a discarded cigarette, or the trucks diesel tank.  :-\
Although, this would be in line with the Jaguar I-Pace setting fire to the entire car transporter on the M1 motorway a couple of years back. Oh, and the EV *(definitely an EV this time)* that caught fire in Heathrow Terminal 3 car park yesterday.  :-\

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Fire crew stated that it was an EV Van, and that the fire is being treated as accidental and is believed to have been caused by an electrical fault with the vehicle's lithium-ion battery pack.

I've just had a look outside and where the garage once stood a blackened smoking patch has now taken it's place.

It has also taken the M240i with it.... ::) ::) >:D

Shouldn't joke just in case the big man upstairs doesn't have a sense of humour. >:D

I believe there was an issue with certain brands of battery so you should be fine now.  :y  To be honest, although they reported that the I-Pace caught fire in transit, it could well have been the trailer brakes that caught fire.  :-\

From memory it was the early 2018/19 cars that came with a suspect battery. Hopefully the 2025 car has been sorted....or not. :D
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 02 October 2025, 14:10:54
Just keep some marshmallows handy!  :D
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 02 October 2025, 14:44:47
Just keep some marshmallows handy!  :D

Bread on a long fork that becomes toast. Fond memories. :y
Title: Re: An Hour to Kill so took a test drive in a chinky MG
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 02 October 2025, 23:04:33
Just keep some marshmallows handy!  :D

A bit of cheap white sliced bread on a long fork that becomes charcoal. Fond memories. :y

 ;D