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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Taxi_Driver on 22 October 2011, 10:18:01
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Last night.....the engine management light came on, the display complained of antipollution fault and it went into limp mode.
Its been into the garage this morning, when they read the codes, it was complaining of a blocked particulate filter. The garage first suggested it needed a good blast up the motorway, i pointed it does 200miles/day on the m4 5 days a week...so its now having its particulate filter and oil changed.
Hopefully that will fix it :y
I think i'm getting as good as TB for breaking cars ;D
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tractor particulate filters are nothing more than a pain in the arse, and serve no useful purpose
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tractor particulate filters are nothing more than a pain in the arse, and serve no useful purpose
Other than being a good earner for the dealers fixing them >:(
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tractor particulate filters are nothing more than a pain in the arse, and serve no useful purpose
agreed my neighbour has a newish citreon and always has problems with his the dealer keeps telling him its because he only does short journeys so now he has to waste diesel giving it a blast down the motorway once a week
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tractor particulate filters are nothing more than a pain in the arse, and serve no useful purpose
agreed my neighbour has a newish citreon and always has problems with his the dealer keeps telling him its because he only does short journeys so now he has to waste diesel giving it a blast down the motorway once a week
Unless you do the mileage and dont just use it for pottering town, you shouldnt really go for a diesel....
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TD, what engine is in this? A friend of minne had this issue, he told me of a trick, disconnect the battery for 10 minutes, and try it after that. He also said it will reoccur after 12 months exactly, but just do the same again. Whether it works or not I don't know :-\ If the DPF were to go in my Beemer I'd have it removed and mapped out, way more hassle than they're worth.
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TD, what engine is in this? A friend of minne had this issue, he told me of a trick, disconnect the battery for 10 minutes, and try it after that. He also said it will reoccur after 12 months exactly, but just do the same again. Whether it works or not I don't know :-\ If the DPF were to go in my Beemer I'd have it removed and mapped out, way more hassle than they're worth.
Its the 1.6TD multijet, bit underpowered when you have a full load, but averages nearly 40mpg (worked out the old fashioned method) :y
Its getting a new filter and oil on Monday (couldnt get the parts on Sat)
Doubt i'll have it still in 12months.....its done just over 140k now ::)
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Interesting
Never seen one just block for no reason, its normaly town driving or EGR issues or also split DPF pressure sensor pipes.
You can clean them out quite easily
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there was a report on watchdog about particulate filters in nissan qashqai ..in the tv advert it was described as perfect for urban or something ..but if u only drive urban, u have to take it on a 40 min at 40 mph run to regen the pf hardly perfect ... :o
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Interesting
Never seen one just block for no reason, its normaly town driving or EGR issues or also split DPF pressure sensor pipes.
You can clean them out quite easily
How would you do that? , apart from baking it at 180C for 20mins/kg + 20mins ;D
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Its dead easy, you fill it with a caustic soda solution, leave it for a few hours, shake it well and then reverse flush it.
Fit it back on and force a regen
Job jobbed
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Its dead easy, you fill it with a caustic soda solution, leave it for a few hours, shake it well and then reverse flush it.
Fit it back on and force a regen
Job jobbed
Ahh....thankyou :y , i might end up doing that......new one ordered Sat morning and still hasnt turned up yet >:(
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Well....
This has know got the garage stumped....
Its had a new particulate filter, new egr valve, new diesel filter.
The engine management light is now off and the ecu isnt reporting any problems (so i assume they have fixed something!) but take it for a spin on the road at the side of the garage and it can manage all of about 10mph! before we run out of road (few hundred yrds)
Dont think its in limp mode (otherwise engine management would be on??)
Fuel starvation??? :-\
They are now waiting for an 'expert' to take a look at it
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Well....the saga continues ::)
It still hasnt been fixed......its been to diesel 'expert' who has declared the turbo is shafted!
New turbo being fitted next week.
Personally i dont think its the turbo.....my reason.....start it up.....floor the accelerator when its in neutral and it revs to a max 2.5k revs.....surely a knackered turbo wouldnt stop it revving when no load? :-\ :-\
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Sounds like its in limp, if turbo was dead, would it not rev to red line with no load. But under load be flat as pancake?
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Swan Vestas time...... :-X
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Sounds like its in limp, if turbo was dead, would it not rev to red line with no load. But under load be flat as pancake?
EML would be on, if it were, imo.......dont forget no EML, no codes being reported
And yes, i agree with the rest of your post :y
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Swan Vestas time...... :-X
I'm shocked :o :o
How could that law abiding Mr H21 suggest such a plan :o ;D ;D
Mind you, if it could get up enough speed, i might be tempted to side swipe a lamp post and put some damage to the B pillar ::) ;D ;D
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Swan Vestas time...... :-X
I'm shocked :o :o
How could that law abiding Mr H21 suggest such a plan :o ;D ;D
Mind you, if it could get up enough speed, i might be tempted to side swipe a lamp post and put some damage to the B pillar ::) ;D ;D
::) ::) :-X :-X :-X :-X
You are in trouble now ;D
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Swan Vestas time...... :-X
I'm shocked :o :o
How could that law abiding Mr H21 suggest such a plan :o ;D ;D
Mind you, if it could get up enough speed, i might be tempted to side swipe a lamp post and put some damage to the B pillar ::) ;D ;D
::) ::) :-X :-X :-X :-X
You are in trouble now ;D
I dont think thats gonna happen tunnie, your not gonna get it to slide at a massive 10mph ;D ;D
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Was at the garage today.....new turbo supposed to fitted tomorrow....when it arrives
However the original turbo has been taken off and is definitely fubared...the shaft with the vanes attached has snapped :o There was also a nut that holds the vanes onto the shaft missing.....where thats gone is anyones guess :-\
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So they diagnosed it wrong then, do you get some money replenished?
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New turbo fitted today.....and the ol' girl has got her power back :y
She fights to live another day :D
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New turbo fitted today.....and the ol' girl has got her power back :y
She fights to live another day :D
Good news Dave :y
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New turbo fitted today.....and the ol' girl has got her power back :y
She fights to live another day :D
All warranty repairs I hope ?
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Good news :y
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Seen one or two issues with the smaller Garrat variable geometry turbos, saw one off a Pug last week where the exhaust gas seal had failed internaly and the turbo looked like an exhaust tail pipe spitting fumes out everywhere.
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Seen one or two issues with the smaller Garrat variable geometry turbos, saw one off a Pug last week where the exhaust gas seal had failed internaly and the turbo looked like an exhaust tail pipe spitting fumes out everywhere.
This is a pug turbo, its got a pug engine in it......in fact i think Skudos are built by pug...the pug expert is exactly the same as a skudo :y
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New turbo fitted today.....and the ol' girl has got her power back :y
She fights to live another day :D
All warranty repairs I hope ?
Not on a 4 yo skudo with 140k on its clock....
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Seen one or two issues with the smaller Garrat variable geometry turbos, saw one off a Pug last week where the exhaust gas seal had failed internaly and the turbo looked like an exhaust tail pipe spitting fumes out everywhere.
Give me a nice rebuildable old fashioned journal bearing turbo over one of these fancy dancy variable geometry things anyday.
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>:( Well that didn't last long >:(
2 weeks and approx 3k miles :o
The new turbo that got fitted has failed with exactkly the same fault as the old one >:(
The shaft that the blades are attached to has snapped. >:(
Another new turbo ordered and should arrive tomorrow.....
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Try not to drop it on the garage floor before you fit it :P
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find a new garage.
oil feed and oil pressure to the turbo needs to be checked. waste of time chucking on a new turbo with no lube.
turbo pressure could of been checked without changing dpfs with a simple squeeze of a turbo hose.
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As said, this is not a Turbo problem, but a pressure one I should think. If the pressure problems are not sorted, you'll be without a van every fortnight.
I believe the engines are Fiat derived? Bloody good Diesel lumps!
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find a new garage.
oil feed and oil pressure to the turbo needs to be checked. waste of time chucking on a new turbo with no lube.
turbo pressure could of been checked without changing dpfs with a simple squeeze of a turbo hose.
Oil is getting to the turbo.....theres a 'bleed' valve on the turbo.....this was undo before the knackered one was taken off.....oil pissed out went everywhere
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As said, this is not a Turbo problem, but a pressure one I should think. If the pressure problems are not sorted, you'll be without a van every fortnight.
I believe the engines are Fiat derived? Bloody good Diesel lumps!
Its a Pug lump......as is the whole bus.....i think
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The pug lumps don't normally suffer with turbo failures unlike renault's finest
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The pug lumps don't normally suffer with turbo failures unlike renault's finest
All together now.....ow yes they do!
There not as good as the Pug diesels of 15 years ago
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That seems to apply to most modern diesels :'(
Between the performance expectations and the emmissions demands, they seem to be getting less and less reliable :-\
A colleague used to run a 51 plate Ford Tourneo, did nearly 600k on original engine and still going, His 08 replacement, bought from new, had to have a new lump at 120k. :o
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The pug lumps don't normally suffer with turbo failures unlike renault's finest
All together now.....ow yes they do!
There not as good as the Pug diesels of 15 years ago
My 406 has done 200k miles and runs as well as ever,ex taxi as well :o
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My 406 has done 200k miles and runs as well as ever,ex taxi as well
That all? Someone wasn't really trying then. ::) Mine's been off the road for 10 of the 33 months that I've had it and inspite of that 200k is the next service 8)
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My 406 has done 200k miles and runs as well as ever,ex taxi as well
That all? Someone wasn't really trying then. ::) Mine's been off the road for 10 of the 33 months that I've had it and inspite of that 200k is the next service 8)
This is Cornwall though,where is there to go !! ;D
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There's a whole country (or three) out here :P
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The pug lumps don't normally suffer with turbo failures unlike renault's finest
All together now.....ow yes they do!
There not as good as the Pug diesels of 15 years ago
My 406 has done 200k miles and runs as well as ever,ex taxi as well :o
I currently have a Turbo off one here in bits.
Its a standard Garret variable geo turbo and the exhaust shaft seal has failed.
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The pug lumps don't normally suffer with turbo failures unlike renault's finest
All together now.....ow yes they do!
There not as good as the Pug diesels of 15 years ago
My 406 has done 200k miles and runs as well as ever,ex taxi as well :o
I currently have a Turbo off one here in bits.
Its a standard Garret variable geo turbo and the exhaust shaft seal has failed.
I've done many VW's,Audi's and Renaults but yet to have done PSA turbo,just been lucky I guess,206Hdi looks a barsteward to do :o
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Well, new turbo fitted.....this time the sumps been off as well.
There was some (not a lot) sludge in the bottom of the sump plus the garagey bloke found one of the oil pick up pipes (strainer) partially blocked with crud. All cleaned out now :y
And before you ask, when was the oil/filter last changed.....it was 3 weeks ago when the turbo was changed last time.
So, the answer from the garage, was, yes oil was getting to the turbo (as was shown to me by undoing the bleed valve on the turbo) but perhaps not enough....
Time will tell i guess :-\
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tbh, fittied a turbo to a focus 1.8td. it had already had a "brand new" unit fitted by a garage. the garage fobbed the female driver for just enough time for them to go bump..no comeback.
did not want to spend another £450 on another turbo , so i just stuck one on from a breakers yard. no problem.
original/ rebuild unit obviously u/s from the word go.
as forest gump once said...