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[F1 9LFG]

em tricky not to offend some one or other well no one ever died from words,but my thoughts are that this great country is now a melting pot of criminals from all over the world and spongers on the state i feel like a secound rate citizen in my own country and im pissed of with it,i dont care if you black white pink or marsion if your a tit your a tit.
im ex navy subs joint service marine sbs and later raf reg and untill this government gets a spine its not getting eny better, as for freinds i can count the good ones on one hand most just use you for what you can do for them .
totaly agree with your thoughts ,no respect no disapline no asperations to do better and most have no thoughts on enything or be able to string a sentance together,sorry again my rant over no offence to whom ever may take it.

RIP all my fallen comrades ,falklands,gulf.
im lucky i live in an area where most what to do well,and the schools are very good.

if your a tit your a tit

Do you know Pirate, in those few words I believe you may have got right to the kernel of many issues and, furthermore, I think that's why many people continue to do stupid things and make poor choices.

I also admit I enjoyed reading it too.

[tigers_gonads]

Rob

My advise is .............. get your arse down to the local pub and have a few beers with the people you live around.
Keep yourself to yourself and (the main thing) RELAX 
You will find that after a few evenings, the people who live around you will strike up a conversation.
Just join in 

Ffs, don't judge anybody because everybody's life is different.
Being my own boss for nearly 20 years, I have met a hell of alot of people.
Believe this or not, some of the most genuine, "what you see is what you get" people I have ever met live in a council house / flat.
And some of the biggest w*nkers I have ever met live in a nice house with 2 nice cars and on the face of it, they look like the perfect family ............ BUT they are totaly false and I wouldn't trust them as far as I could thow them 
Some have had sh*t lifes for various reasons.
Some have made mistakes for various reasons.

As the saying goes .............. you can't judge a book by its cover.

Friends are just that ............ friends.
You can't manufacture them, it just happens 


Just a quickie on the "people who can't be arsed to work" bit.
5 years ago, i'd have agreed with all that.
Nowdays, there are very little jobs and for certain folks of a certain age / qualifications, you have no chance of employment.
Being sat on your arse is the most depressing thing that can happen and until it happens to you, you can't understand what it does to your self esteem and your head. So it might be a idea to cut the rest of the world a little slack and not judge them 

Yer I often do that, and with the friends I do have, just find it so so hard to find families to be freinds with who share the same stresses of work & kids etc.

Oh and I know how hard work is to find at the moment, esp those slightly older and as you say with little qualifications but round here all I see is 20-30 year olds who can't be arsed and don't try. I was out of work last year for 6months but I never gave up and secured a great job. There are jobs if you're willing to work. (I know there are exceptions to some people-totally understand) I'm sick of hearing ''why should I work, I can live on benefits'' etc

They need a good kicking in my book 

[SIR Philbutt]

Someone had to put this in here - no apologies

Harvey & Rabbit - "Friends" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA2DqWfUdI8

[jonnycool]

For what it's worth F1 9LFG, I read and understood your original post the first time 

[F1 9LFG]

Someone had to put this in here - no apologies

Harvey & Rabbit - "Friends" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA2DqWfUdI8

None needed 

[F1 9LFG]

For what it's worth F1 9LFG, I read and understood your original post the first time 

I'm pleased - It's not a dig at anyone, anyones life or upbringing. Cheers 

[SIR Philbutt]

/snipped

Yes we are a young family but we stick together, work hard and do all we can for our children to push them in the right direction and show them right from wrong. We just haven't found any family locally to us who are doing the same!

Getting on subject though - I think you have said it all here and that is all you can do.

I have found that friends seem to occur naturally and become as such without any kind of analysis or need for a specification.

HTH
Phil

[F1 9LFG]

/snipped

Yes we are a young family but we stick together, work hard and do all we can for our children to push them in the right direction and show them right from wrong. We just haven't found any family locally to us who are doing the same!

Getting on subject though - I think you have said it all here and that is all you can do.

I have found that friends seem to occur naturally and become as such without any kind of analysis or need for a specification.

HTH
Phil

Agreed. Thanks. It was just getting to me that's all.

[F1 9LFG]

Thanks to all who have replied - OOF's input is always welcomed 

[Steve B]

Wanted advert

Family friends wanted for family in Braintree, Essex (no Essex jokes please-we're from London really)

We are a 'normal' family, I work all week and enjoy spending time with my 2 children when I can. My wife works hard to ensure the kids have all they need for school etc and maintains the family home (very well).

My children have been brought up with manors, respect and loyalty - They are punished when they do wrong and are praised when they do well.

I want my kids to grow up knowing that they must work hard to gain an education and earn their own money to support themselves.


We (as a family) have gone through family friends like they are going out of fashion - 'ex' friends who simply don't share the same values etc.
A few things that we don't agree with below

Children;
-Don't show enough of an interest in their children’s development.
-Let them run riot.
-Fail to discipline them
-feed them junk food instead of cooking proper meals
-Shout and scream at them constantly (including swearing at them/while talking to them)

Lifestyle;
-Have no aspirations to do anything as a family at weekends (even things that are free like walking in the woods etc)
-Sitting in front of a PC/TV screen all day when things in the house need doing
-Feel it's ok to have a filthy household
-Don't see the point in working when the state can pay for everything
-Think drug use and a 6pk of beers every night is acceptable

I could go on, but basically I class my family as a 'good family unit' with a future and children who will grow up to do well in their lives and have respect etc.

We've had so many friends through the school but never made any good family friends, don't read this and think 'you sound like a snob' far from it, I want whets best for my family and want to have friends who share that belief - but we just can't seem to find them!!

Part of the problem (I think) is that out of the 50+ children’s families in my 2 kids respective classes at school we are one of the only families who are A) Together i.e. I am with my 2 children’s mother B) We are dependent on my salary, not the next DSS payment and C) want our children to do well.

Don't get me wrong, relationships don't always work out, I get that - but we seem to be the only family still together. I must be one of the only parents who actually works a full time 'proper' job.

I understand that benefits are there for people who need them (dad has left after having a baby etc and people off work through no fault of their own, illness redundancy etc) but there are they as a safety net - not as a lifestyle choice!

All we seem to find is what I call 'dead end' people, whose life is evolved around council housing, DSS payments, daytime TV and have no wishes for their kids to go places in their lives.

Interested to hear other people’s thoughts on the above, (obviously text can be read several different ways) but as a generalisation are we that different?

Maybe it is just us - maybe I expect too much from others I don't know....

(Sorry RANT OVER)

Rob

seems you have spent plenty of time today in front of a pc screen today...just looked at your post times..

[F1 9LFG]

Wanted advert

Family friends wanted for family in Braintree, Essex (no Essex jokes please-we're from London really)

We are a 'normal' family, I work all week and enjoy spending time with my 2 children when I can. My wife works hard to ensure the kids have all they need for school etc and maintains the family home (very well).

My children have been brought up with manors, respect and loyalty - They are punished when they do wrong and are praised when they do well.

I want my kids to grow up knowing that they must work hard to gain an education and earn their own money to support themselves.


We (as a family) have gone through family friends like they are going out of fashion - 'ex' friends who simply don't share the same values etc.
A few things that we don't agree with below

Children;
-Don't show enough of an interest in their children’s development.
-Let them run riot.
-Fail to discipline them
-feed them junk food instead of cooking proper meals
-Shout and scream at them constantly (including swearing at them/while talking to them)

Lifestyle;
-Have no aspirations to do anything as a family at weekends (even things that are free like walking in the woods etc)
-Sitting in front of a PC/TV screen all day when things in the house need doing
-Feel it's ok to have a filthy household
-Don't see the point in working when the state can pay for everything
-Think drug use and a 6pk of beers every night is acceptable

I could go on, but basically I class my family as a 'good family unit' with a future and children who will grow up to do well in their lives and have respect etc.

We've had so many friends through the school but never made any good family friends, don't read this and think 'you sound like a snob' far from it, I want whets best for my family and want to have friends who share that belief - but we just can't seem to find them!!

Part of the problem (I think) is that out of the 50+ children’s families in my 2 kids respective classes at school we are one of the only families who are A) Together i.e. I am with my 2 children’s mother B) We are dependent on my salary, not the next DSS payment and C) want our children to do well.

Don't get me wrong, relationships don't always work out, I get that - but we seem to be the only family still together. I must be one of the only parents who actually works a full time 'proper' job.

I understand that benefits are there for people who need them (dad has left after having a baby etc and people off work through no fault of their own, illness redundancy etc) but there are they as a safety net - not as a lifestyle choice!

All we seem to find is what I call 'dead end' people, whose life is evolved around council housing, DSS payments, daytime TV and have no wishes for their kids to go places in their lives.

Interested to hear other people’s thoughts on the above, (obviously text can be read several different ways) but as a generalisation are we that different?

Maybe it is just us - maybe I expect too much from others I don't know....

(Sorry RANT OVER)

Rob

seems you have spent plenty of time today in front of a pc screen today...just looked at your post times..

Indeed I had - I've worked bloody hard all week, the kids had gone to their nans for the day/night so I made the most of the peace.
Cheers all the same and very observant of you.