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Re: Oh dear......What have I done?
« Reply #45 on: 10 January 2014, 20:17:09 »

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It does have 339 lb ft of torque by means of compensation though. :y

is that all  ::)

http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/reviews/facts-and-figures/mercedes-benz/r-class/estate-2006/33419/

376 lb ft.......Ah yes, the joy of big torque from a turbo diesel. :y :D


Only 220 BHP though...... :P :P :P :P
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Re: Oh dear......What have I done?
« Reply #46 on: 10 January 2014, 20:20:53 »

Talking about diesels, always fancied a drive in one of those VW / Audi's with the V10 turbo diesel under the bonnet.  Over 700 nm of torque I believe  ::)
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Re: Oh dear......What have I done?
« Reply #47 on: 10 January 2014, 20:23:38 »

Talking about diesels, always fancied a drive in one of those VW / Audi's with the V10 turbo diesel under the bonnet.  Over 700 nm of torque I believe  ::)


In old money please, Mr Gonads.

Newton metres mean nothing to a sad old bastard like myself. ;D ;D ;)
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Re: Oh dear......What have I done?
« Reply #48 on: 10 January 2014, 20:30:46 »

Talking about diesels, always fancied a drive in one of those VW / Audi's with the V10 turbo diesel under the bonnet.  Over 700 nm of torque I believe  ::)


In old money please, Mr Gonads.

Newton metres mean nothing to a sad old bastard like myself. ;D ;D ;)





Didn't know you was sad  :P ;D ;D
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Re: Oh dear......What have I done?
« Reply #49 on: 10 January 2014, 20:52:28 »

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Only 220 BHP though...... :P :P :P :P

it's actually 224   ;D..... but I won't split hairs ..... not bad for a diseasal   :y :y
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Re: Oh dear......What have I done?
« Reply #50 on: 10 January 2014, 20:54:20 »

Talking about diesels, always fancied a drive in one of those VW / Audi's with the V10 turbo diesel under the bonnet.  Over 700 nm of torque I believe  ::)


In old money please, Mr Gonads.

Newton metres mean nothing to a sad old bastard like myself. ;D ;D ;)





Didn't know you was sad  :P ;D ;D
Not as sad as he'll be when Mrs Opti finds out  ;D
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Re: Oh dear......What have I done?
« Reply #51 on: 10 January 2014, 23:34:26 »

Exhaust valve area will be proportional to the total inlet valve area so in this case, it will be equal to or slightly larger I would expect.

So what's the advantage of having two smaller inlet valves and one big exhaust valve, over 2 valves the same size?  ???  :-\
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Re: Oh dear......What have I done?
« Reply #52 on: 10 January 2014, 23:41:02 »

Exhaust valve area will be proportional to the total inlet valve area so in this case, it will be equal to or slightly larger I would expect.

So what's the advantage of having two smaller inlet valves and one big exhaust valve, over 2 valves the same size?  ???  :-\

Guessing the two valves have a bigger over all area. There's a limit to the size of two holes within a single bore/head. So a way to get a bigger aperture is to have two holes.

Not sure if another valve would need another cam follower, and hence another cam to run it, due to space on a single cam. Probably.
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Re: Oh dear......What have I done?
« Reply #53 on: 10 January 2014, 23:49:55 »

Exhaust valve area will be proportional to the total inlet valve area so in this case, it will be equal to or slightly larger I would expect.

So what's the advantage of having two smaller inlet valves and one big exhaust valve, over 2 valves the same size?  ???  :-\

My understanding is better fuel/air mixing within the cylinder, so giving a "better" spread of flame front / combustion, so increasing efficiency.

If all the fuel/air comes in through one valve it "sits" centrally in the cylinder, two valves ensures better "mixing".

This is all based on what I was told many years back when I asked the question .... no proof whatsoever so may well be totally wrong ...  :)
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Re: Oh dear......What have I done?
« Reply #54 on: 10 January 2014, 23:52:49 »

Exhaust valve area will be proportional to the total inlet valve area so in this case, it will be equal to or slightly larger I would expect.

So what's the advantage of having two smaller inlet valves and one big exhaust valve, over 2 valves the same size?  ???  :-\

Guessing the two valves have a bigger over all area. There's a limit to the size of two holes within a single bore/head. So a way to get a bigger aperture is to have two holes.

Yep, or more correctly, the cylinder of air gap that's exposed when the valve opens with a given lift is much bigger for a given space in the head when you fill that space with 2 small valves instead of one larger one. You also get better "swirl" which means better mixing of the fuel air mixture in the cylinder and more even filling.

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Not sure if another valve would need another cam follower, and hence another cam to run it, due to space on a single cam. Probably.

Yep, it'll certainly need its' own lifter (hydraulic or manually shimmed) to set the clearance. Most have their own cam lobe.
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