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« on: 18 March 2012, 14:14:50 »

Hi all,
i have a question for all you people more knowledgable in Audio Hi Fi.
I own a pair of Vintage Scott floor standing loudspeakers circa 1966-69.
They are 3 way speakers comprising a 10'' sub woofer, 4'' mid range and a 1'' tweeter.
6-8 ohm impedance, 7 watts min input.
The Cabinets are sealed units and access gained by removing the speakers.

The sub woofers have started to rot away and need to be replaced.
I would like to replace the crossovers with more modern items at the same time, Can any body reccomend what subs to buy and which crossovers are best.
Please be warned i have no electronic knowhow at all when it comes to audio etc.

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« Reply #1 on: 18 March 2012, 14:23:06 »

Get rid of them and buy some modern speakers. Technology has come on so far, it ain't worth bothering IMHO
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« Reply #2 on: 18 March 2012, 15:01:59 »

I had thought about that route,
but these are so well built and the quality is so good that i would like to rebuild these.
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« Reply #3 on: 18 March 2012, 16:46:24 »

there are many bass speaker units with different specs :-\ 
 
but for crossovers they are not that deep info..needs some practice (trial and error)  and a good ear..
 
http://www.parts-express.com/projectshowcase/xover/xover.html
 
http://www.diyaudioandvideo.com/Tutorial/Crossover/
 
http://www.parts-express.com/resources/crossover-component-selection-guide.cfm
 
I must note, I learned crossover building from a British origin small handbook..  they have many examples with different combinations .. you can try yourself.. :y
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« Reply #4 on: 18 March 2012, 18:45:33 »

I have a very good re-cone guy in the midlands, makes his own cones for some stuff, may be worth a shout?
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« Reply #5 on: 18 March 2012, 18:48:56 »

I know a guy in Essex that rebuilds them too.
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« Reply #6 on: 18 March 2012, 18:58:14 »

Thats a route that i did not know existed, thanks guys.

Would more modern subs be an improvment or is it all in the electronics that the improvments are to be found, as this is one area that i would look to improve at the same time.
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« Reply #7 on: 18 March 2012, 19:00:38 »

Cem, thanks for thos links all very intresting but wayyyyyy over my head, would look to buy manufactured units.
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« Reply #8 on: 18 March 2012, 19:05:43 »

Thats a route that i did not know existed, thanks guys.

Would more modern subs be an improvment or is it all in the electronics that the improvments are to be found, as this is one area that i would look to improve at the same time.

You could get someone to rebuild them for you. But unless they have a sentimental/resale value, I would just get a new set. Speakers have come on a long way. And something very simple like a Rega floorstander will provide very good music at a very reasonable price.

Remember you will have to get the speakers to someone somewhere in the country to re-build and then collect. It wont be that cheap.

Now if they were vintage Tannoys, then ......
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« Reply #9 on: 18 March 2012, 19:14:35 »

Thats a route that i did not know existed, thanks guys.

Would more modern subs be an improvment or is it all in the electronics that the improvments are to be found, as this is one area that i would look to improve at the same time.

You could get someone to rebuild them for you. But unless they have a sentimental/resale value, I would just get a new set. Speakers have come on a long way. And something very simple like a Rega floorstander will provide very good music at a very reasonable price.

Remember you will have to get the speakers to someone somewhere in the country to re-build and then collect. It wont be that cheap.

Now if they were vintage Tannoys, then ......

Tbh, they'd not cost much to ship, as you'll only need to send the drivers, and you'll find that the amount of air in the box is very relevant to the drivers in it, hence the size of them, tuning ports etc. If they make a noise you like then they are the right box for you, so you can go hunting or price the repair, depends on budget & preference
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« Reply #10 on: 18 March 2012, 19:24:19 »

Thats a route that i did not know existed, thanks guys.

Would more modern subs be an improvment or is it all in the electronics that the improvments are to be found, as this is one area that i would look to improve at the same time.

new model subs are definitely better..and also mids and tweeters.. but capacitors and inductors are same .. however, active speakers have different electronic components as they also have built in amplifiers..
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« Reply #11 on: 18 March 2012, 19:47:10 »

Thats a route that i did not know existed, thanks guys.

Would more modern subs be an improvment or is it all in the electronics that the improvments are to be found, as this is one area that i would look to improve at the same time.

new model subs are definitely better..and also mids and tweeters.. but capacitors and inductors are same .. however, active speakers have different electronic components as they also have built in amplifiers..

Better is an opinion, the're are newer (better?) cars than a mig, but we all like them......that's why we're here!
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« Reply #12 on: 18 March 2012, 20:29:03 »

Thats a route that i did not know existed, thanks guys.

Would more modern subs be an improvment or is it all in the electronics that the improvments are to be found, as this is one area that i would look to improve at the same time.

new model subs are definitely better..and also mids and tweeters.. but capacitors and inductors are same .. however, active speakers have different electronic components as they also have built in amplifiers..

Better is an opinion, the're are newer (better?) cars than a mig, but we all like them......that's why we're here!

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I cant see any relevance.. sorry :y
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« Reply #13 on: 18 March 2012, 20:35:11 »

You cant just chuck any old speaker and crossover in.

The speakers used will have been chosen to match the enclosure volume and characteristics, furthermore the crossover will have been designed to suit the speakers when mounted in the enclosure.

So in reality its a case of either get them re-coned (probably also wants the magnets re-magentising to) or get some modern ones.  :y
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« Reply #14 on: 18 March 2012, 20:47:42 »

Thats a route that i did not know existed, thanks guys.

Would more modern subs be an improvment or is it all in the electronics that the improvments are to be found, as this is one area that i would look to improve at the same time.

new model subs are definitely better..and also mids and tweeters.. but capacitors and inductors are same .. however, active speakers have different electronic components as they also have built in amplifiers..

Better is an opinion, the're are newer (better?) cars than a mig, but we all like them......that's why we're here!

 ::) ;D
 
I cant see any relevance.. sorry :y

You drive a renault.....of course you can't, and so you should be sorry!!
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