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[gpenny07931]

Is there any for sale on here then? The Vauxhall ones? And how much.

[albitz]

There are a pair in my "breaking facelift elite" ad in the parts section. I would advise you to request a refund from the ebay supplier if the kit you bought doesnt work properly.
If mine are of interest, feel free to PM me.If not,no worries. Postage may be a bit  pricey to be honest.

[RobG]

DfT state that aftermarket HID conversions must match the requirements for new car regs.

Which means:
HID approved lenses
An automatic headlight cleaning system
Automatic levelling system

Plain as plain.

Whatever the MOT states doesn't mean jack. Having an MOT ticket doesn't make a car legal.


As to HID upgrade kits that replace the halogen bulbs, which are most definately not looked upon favourably by DfT, I'd bin them, and buy the required parts from a breaker here.

That is the DfT`s understanding of what the law requires. Ultimately it`s for the courts to interpret it as they see fit in each particular case

Not quite, thats what DfT think is reasonable (and I think their views are reasonable - retrofits should be to same standards/spec as factory).

Wrong. Copied from the DfT`s information sheet regarding retrofitting.

"NOTE: The information in this document is a summary of DfT’s understanding of what the law requires."

[TheBoy]

DfT state that aftermarket HID conversions must match the requirements for new car regs.

Which means:
HID approved lenses
An automatic headlight cleaning system
Automatic levelling system

Plain as plain.

Whatever the MOT states doesn't mean jack. Having an MOT ticket doesn't make a car legal.


As to HID upgrade kits that replace the halogen bulbs, which are most definately not looked upon favourably by DfT, I'd bin them, and buy the required parts from a breaker here.

That is the DfT`s understanding of what the law requires. Ultimately it`s for the courts to interpret it as they see fit in each particular case

Not quite, thats what DfT think is reasonable (and I think their views are reasonable - retrofits should be to same standards/spec as factory).

Wrong. Copied from the DfT`s information sheet regarding retrofitting.

"NOTE: The information in this document is a summary of DfT’s understanding of what the law requires."

OK, thanks

But I still think its a perfectly reasonable minimum.

Sorry, pet hate, due to all the 'tards around here who fit them badly around here

[Brikhead]

Is there any for sale on here then? The Vauxhall ones? And how much.

I also have a set of xenon lights from a 2001 Mv6 knocking around, they come complete with bulbs an ballasts for £25 each collected, I gather the adjusters are fragile but if you wanna risk it then I am prepared to post them...

[TheBoy]

Please keep offers of selling to the For Sale section

[Brikhead]

Please keep offers of selling to the For Sale section

Sorry Boss, I have been realy good recently though... don't you think?
I only bothered to respond because 'gpenny' did specifically ask for a set.

S'pose I should apologize to 'albitz' too.

[ffcgary1]

I have an after market hid kit fitted to my tourer estate, i fitted this kit myself with new after market projector lamp units as well. I already had washers fitted so ok there.
After the install i had the beams aimed at my local vx dealer as my pal works there, and i asked him to aim them just a tad low than the norm, He commented that the beam pattern was better than some more modern cars that he mot's.
Last week it went in for the MOT again and a different tester checked the operation of the washers and beam aim and made no comment or raised any questions as to the lights.
I personally have had more instances of being dazzled by BMW or NISSAN MICRA HIDS than any other cars out there.
Then again you will always get the chavs with their hats on sideways in lowered corsa's with HIDS that point to the moon, they are the people that need to be jumped on and fast.

[D]

The problem is that even if you fit approved bulbs to an approved HID headlight, it doesnt compensate for levelling changes. Which is why the factory fit systems incorporate an expensive and elaborate levelling system. Then there is the issue of washers. Any dirt on the headlights have a tendency to scatter the beam and blind oncoming users, hence the need to have one.

ffcgary1; you may feel that BMWs and Micra's blind you more. However I would think that no one would get out of their car to let you know that your headlight has just dazzled them. Your headlights could be blinding quite a few people out there and you would be oblivious to the whole thing. With regards to your mate's comment, I would take it with a large scoop of salt. If you are trying to imply that your after market setup performs better than a well put together headlight designed by an international manufaturer, then that to me is wishful thinking and nothing else. Otherwise we would all be buying these so called perfect headlamps. MOT's purely check the beam pattern and dont really account for the scatter that the aftermarket kits throw out. I know becasue I had an expensive american aftermarket kit in my BMW and although it passed MOT after MOT; I knew the beam was not perfect. How? Because if I sat in another car with someone driving my car towards me, it was obvious I had an aftermarket setup due to the amount of scattered light.

The problem is that aftermarket HID kits improve your illumination of the road but at the expense of blinding or impairing the car opposite you. The best compromise seems to be retrofitting original units to the car, but that still doesnt address the levelling issue. It does seem to be the least blinding compromise though.

[ffcgary1]

D, i do not disagree with most of what you say but, i would put my hid set up against any retro fit set up anyday of the week, but i must stress that my hids are set a bit low to avoid dazzling on comeing drivers, and i am sure that if i was causing problems i am sure that they would flash me. But they dont.

[albitz]

Same here Gary.