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Re: Sticking Lifter
« Reply #90 on: 03 January 2013, 14:10:20 »

Ok thanks Amba , will do my best to investigate it  ;)
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Re: Sticking Lifter
« Reply #91 on: 03 January 2013, 14:12:37 »

Frequency sounds to slow to be lifter, and it's not "tocky" enough either.

Sounds like exhaust to me. Manifold to head gasket? Or perhaps lower down. :-X
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Re: Sticking Lifter
« Reply #92 on: 03 January 2013, 14:14:41 »

Frequency sounds to slow to be lifter, and it's not "tocky" enough either.

Sounds like exhaust to me. Manifold to head gasket? Or perhaps lower down. :-X

I think i would sooner it be a gasket than taking the cams out , then again  ::) :(
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Re: Sticking Lifter
« Reply #93 on: 03 January 2013, 14:15:55 »

Maybe get Daz to have a look at it?
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Re: Sticking Lifter
« Reply #94 on: 03 January 2013, 14:16:49 »

You might not wish for that if it is the N/S exhaust manifold gasket >:(

That is a real bitch to do
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Re: Sticking Lifter
« Reply #95 on: 03 January 2013, 14:21:43 »

You might not wish for that if it is the N/S exhaust manifold gasket >:(

That is a real bitch to do

 :( :( :( Suppose everything is do able with patience although i have read about some tough times trying to replace them .
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Re: Sticking Lifter
« Reply #96 on: 03 January 2013, 14:26:54 »

Having heard your video mate don't think its a lifter.  Sounds more like exhaust manifold to me.
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Re: Sticking Lifter
« Reply #97 on: 03 January 2013, 16:11:18 »

Having heard your video mate don't think its a lifter.  Sounds more like exhaust manifold to me.

Does sound like it  8)

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There should be a thin gasket that fits between the exhaust downpipe and manifold 

Do you mean the gasket to the bottom of the manifold Amba ? On the bottom of these ...

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Re: Sticking Lifter
« Reply #98 on: 03 January 2013, 16:28:43 »

Doesn't seem to be a guide for exhaust manifold gasket replacements .. ???
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Re: Sticking Lifter
« Reply #99 on: 03 January 2013, 17:23:24 »

Doesn't seem to be a guide for exhaust manifold gasket replacements .. ???

 ;)

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1261581517
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Re: Sticking Lifter
« Reply #100 on: 03 January 2013, 17:25:15 »

Hmm. That does sound like a lifter to me. Pretty much how I remember the Silver Bullet when it suffered lifter issues. Sounds once-per-engine-cycle which would figure.

It's so hard to diagnose remotely, though. The noise sounds quite directional to me, as the camera is panned around. One idea might be to listen through a couple of foot of hose pipe to the ear. Run it round the cam cover and also around the exhaust manifold mounting to the block, from above and below. This really helps to identify the source of the noise. Is it only that bank that's noisy?
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Re: Sticking Lifter
« Reply #101 on: 03 January 2013, 17:37:16 »

Hmm. That does sound like a lifter to me. Pretty much how I remember the Silver Bullet when it suffered lifter issues. Sounds once-per-engine-cycle which would figure.

It's so hard to diagnose remotely, though. The noise sounds quite directional to me, as the camera is panned around. One idea might be to listen through a couple of foot of hose pipe to the ear. Run it round the cam cover and also around the exhaust manifold mounting to the block, from above and below. This really helps to identify the source of the noise. Is it only that bank that's noisy?

thats a bloody great idea!!!  :y that should isolate the noise.

kev, i spose the fact that its happening once every cycle it should narrow it down to one (or two) lifters per cylinder???
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Re: Sticking Lifter
« Reply #102 on: 03 January 2013, 17:47:41 »

Hmm. That does sound like a lifter to me. Pretty much how I remember the Silver Bullet when it suffered lifter issues. Sounds once-per-engine-cycle which would figure.

It's so hard to diagnose remotely, though. The noise sounds quite directional to me, as the camera is panned around. One idea might be to listen through a couple of foot of hose pipe to the ear. Run it round the cam cover and also around the exhaust manifold mounting to the block, from above and below. This really helps to identify the source of the noise. Is it only that bank that's noisy?
was thinking on the lines of compression stroke...? As opposed to cam revs. TB's being a combination of both with egr pipe on derivers bank and lifters... I thought?

It's certainly not the same noise as my old 3.2 when I got it. Far more aggressive and repetitive per rpm. ...could have been more than one lifter though I suppose.

But as you say, difficult remotely.
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Re: Sticking Lifter
« Reply #103 on: 03 January 2013, 18:36:10 »

Hmm. That does sound like a lifter to me. Pretty much how I remember the Silver Bullet when it suffered lifter issues. Sounds once-per-engine-cycle which would figure.

It's so hard to diagnose remotely, though. The noise sounds quite directional to me, as the camera is panned around. One idea might be to listen through a couple of foot of hose pipe to the ear. Run it round the cam cover and also around the exhaust manifold mounting to the block, from above and below. This really helps to identify the source of the noise. Is it only that bank that's noisy?

It is only that one side but seems more noisier further down the side . I been thinking that if some exhaust paste can be smudged around the bottom joint i could see if the noise goes away , not sure if a hand can be got up there to do that though .
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Re: Sticking Lifter
« Reply #104 on: 03 January 2013, 19:05:58 »

Not hijacking.... simply trying to compare.

This is the ''ticking'' I have. Car hasn't been started for a day and it's about 8oC outside...... (ignore the slight belt squeal, I actually only noticed it tonight)



This is then after a drive when it's up to temp.....again bit of belt squeal but the ticking seems to have stopped.....



If I had to say.... I think this sounds like ''light'' lifter crud build up. Feel free to comment.
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