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[feeutfo]

Oh that reminds me, Thankyou cem.

Main reason for NOT using a Lexus lump is the gear box. Only a tremac t56 gear box will take that amount of power in manual form. There is no bell housing in production that will mate a gm box to a Lexus lump, so Rats had to make one.

Very very expensive. And makes it pointless fitting the Lexus engine.


Simply fitting "a v8" is not the aim. A v8 with double the bhp of a 3.2 is the only worthwhile project.

[05omegav6]

Oh that reminds me, Thankyou cem.

Main reason for NOT using a Lexus lump is the gear box. Only a tremac t56 gear box will take that amount of power in manual form. There is no bell housing in production that will mate a gm box to a Lexus lump, so Rats had to make one.

Very very expensive. And makes it pointless fitting the Lexus engine.

That's that sorted then 'bout bloody time

[cem_devecioglu]

Me,If I were thinking of a similar project I would be buying an old lexus LS400 (plenty around the £500 mark) and having a look at dropping its engine into an Omega.A really well engineered Japanese quadcam v8,rather than an old over engineered U.S. boat anchor.

As already said in the thread, Quad Cam engines are way too bulky, and from a performance POV, not much touches the LSx engine for size:power ratio.

if I would choose an engine for race it would be a japanese not gm built..

Honda VTEC no doubt?  Dreadful, DREADFUL engines!

 
I'm afraid there are lots of enthusiasts thinking different

Spotty Yoofs know nothing. Some people eat semolina, doesn't make it gourmet though (or edible)

a debate about honda engines quality will be unnecessary imo..

[05omegav6]

For once I agree with you Cem

Any Honda engine is totally unsuitable for this proposed purpose, so any further discussion of them is a waste of oxygen

[cem_devecioglu]

Oh that reminds me, Thankyou cem.

Main reason for NOT using a Lexus lump is the gear box. Only a tremac t56 gear box will take that amount of power in manual form. There is no bell housing in production that will mate a gm box to a Lexus lump, so Rats had to make one.

Very very expensive. And makes it pointless fitting the Lexus engine.


Simply fitting "a v8" is not the aim. A v8 with double the bhp of a 3.2 is the only worthwhile project.

usage of an American gearbox doesnt necessarily mean their production quality is better.. may be they find it cheaper or may some other reasons.. Japanese can always do better..  just look at the world sale ratings for jap and Us cars..

[feeutfo]

Oh that reminds me, Thankyou cem.

Main reason for NOT using a Lexus lump is the gear box. Only a tremac t56 gear box will take that amount of power in manual form. There is no bell housing in production that will mate a gm box to a Lexus lump, so Rats had to make one.

Very very expensive. And makes it pointless fitting the Lexus engine.

That's that sorted then 'bout bloody time

Well, the current problem is finding an LS1 with a manual box for reasonable money.
I know someone with a t56 box not far from here though. I wonder if he'll notice if it goes missing....?

[feeutfo]

Oh that reminds me, Thankyou cem.

Main reason for NOT using a Lexus lump is the gear box. Only a tremac t56 gear box will take that amount of power in manual form. There is no bell housing in production that will mate a gm box to a Lexus lump, so Rats had to make one.

Very very expensive. And makes it pointless fitting the Lexus engine.


Simply fitting "a v8" is not the aim. A v8 with double the bhp of a 3.2 is the only worthwhile project.

usage of an American gearbox doesnt necessarily mean their production quality is better.. may be they find it cheaper or may some other reasons.. Japanese can always do better..  just look at the world sale ratings for jap and Us cars..

have a look at google cem

First consideration is will it take the power? Yes it will.
Second, will it fit? Yes it will.

....as the title of the thread, it has been done.

[cem_devecioglu]

For once I agree with you Cem

Any Honda engine is totally unsuitable for this proposed purpose, so any further discussion of them is a waste of oxygen

I would still take a glance at this

from
http://privaterunners.com/2011/05/06/v12-honda/   

[cem_devecioglu]

and for Nascar
" Modified 5VZ for NASCAR is also under development and testing" by TMC (toyota motor company)
 
http://www.toysport.com/technical%20information/Toyota%20Racing%20Engines.htm

[Broomies Mate]

This thread has taken a nosedive! 

[cem_devecioglu]

Oh that reminds me, Thankyou cem.

Main reason for NOT using a Lexus lump is the gear box. Only a tremac t56 gear box will take that amount of power in manual form. There is no bell housing in production that will mate a gm box to a Lexus lump, so Rats had to make one.

Very very expensive. And makes it pointless fitting the Lexus engine.


Simply fitting "a v8" is not the aim. A v8 with double the bhp of a 3.2 is the only worthwhile project.

usage of an American gearbox doesnt necessarily mean their production quality is better.. may be they find it cheaper or may some other reasons.. Japanese can always do better..  just look at the world sale ratings for jap and Us cars..

have a look at google cem

First consideration is will it take the power? Yes it will.
Second, will it fit? Yes it will.

....as the title of the thread, it has been done.

and readily available in scrapyards

[05omegav6]

Bloody statistics again The Yanks have simply produced a well matched gearbox to suit their engine

Don't forget, the only reason the Japs do mass production is because the American rebuilt Japanese industry following WW2, using Henry Fords principles of 'Just in time' manufacturing

[cem_devecioglu]

Bloody statistics again The Yanks have simply produced a well matched gearbox to suit their engine

Don't forget, the only reason the Japs do mass production is because the American rebuilt Japanese industry following WW2, using Henry Fords principles of 'Just in time' manufacturing

Well.. Well..
 
Japs had mass production long before the start of War.. And they had everything except the resources of US and the atomic bomb..

[feeutfo]

Oh that reminds me, Thankyou cem.

Main reason for NOT using a Lexus lump is the gear box. Only a tremac t56 gear box will take that amount of power in manual form. There is no bell housing in production that will mate a gm box to a Lexus lump, so Rats had to make one.

Very very expensive. And makes it pointless fitting the Lexus engine.


Simply fitting "a v8" is not the aim. A v8 with double the bhp of a 3.2 is the only worthwhile project.

usage of an American gearbox doesnt necessarily mean their production quality is better.. may be they find it cheaper or may some other reasons.. Japanese can always do better..  just look at the world sale ratings for jap and Us cars..

have a look at google cem

First consideration is will it take the power? Yes it will.
Second, will it fit? Yes it will.

....as the title of the thread, it has been done.

and readily available in scrapyards

indeed they are in the states. 2 a penny.

Over here however, they seem to start at about 4k with box.

LSx truck or iron block engines are cheaper afaik. But heavier, and the inlet and aniliarys don't match so well, Afaict.

[joshwyatt]

Are any of the following engines of any use;

The 5.7 as fitted to the 1992-1996 Chevrolet Caprice
or
The 4.6 Ford modular V8 as fitted to the 1998+ Ford Crown Victoria / Lincoln Town Car?

I'm guessing probably not the second one, and possibly only the first?