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[OmegaAnglesey]

Hi all..


I'm looking for something to basically eat the rust and take it as close as possible to bare metal and a protector so after respraying it will last longer than 6-12months..


My current Omega hasn't had its arches done before but their both have a fair bit now top and bottom sides including the bottom lip on the back doors..


Have been searching OOf for recommended methods and products have found these so far..


BILT HAMBER DEOX-GEL RUST REMOVER
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bilt-Hamber-Deox-Gel-Rust-Remover-Gelled-Corrosion-Remover-1000ml-bottle-/181097618429?pt=UK_Car_Accessories_Car_Care_Cleaning&hash=item2a2a425bfd

BRUNOX EPOXY
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BRUNOX-EPOXY-LUBRICANT-250-ML-ANTI-RUST-COVERING-TREATMENT-/221199073170?pt=UK_Body_Shop_Supplies_Paint&hash=item33807dff92

POR 15 Rust Prevention Paint US Quart 946ml NEW non-porous protective coat
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Black-POR-15-Rust-Prevention-Paint-US-Quart-946ml-NEW-non-porous-protective-coat-/380583047033?pt=UK_Body_Shop_Supplies_Paint&hash=item589c846f79

Sorry about picture quality (been having issues with the new photobucket)

[kevinp58]

There is only one sure way to rid it of the metal worm and the is to cut it out and repair. 

[OmegaAnglesey]

There is only one sure way to rid it of the metal worm and the is to cut it out and repair. 

True. But I don't want to be going down that road just yet as it's still only surface rust... I just don't want it to come back within months of doing it.. I'd be happy with over a year or there about's. 

[OmegaAnglesey]

I will try and get some better quality close up pictures when it's above 0c outside. 

[cem_devecioglu]

before doing anything , mask the non-rusted paint area with 2-3 layers of painter masking tape..
 
using 150 grid dry sand paper clean until you reach complete clean bare metal .. inside out (all inner outer sides)(you will need a mirror)
 
(if you cant clean the rust completely or there is a hole - I'm afraid thats a body shop work)
 
clean the tapes..
 
now mask the area 0.5 cms bigger from all directions
 
now sand the area with 400 overlapping to the good paint (0.5 cms bigger from every direction)
 
spray (6-7 layers- use hair dryer between every 2 layers) standox/glassurite epoxy (with hardener and celulosic thinner)designed for cars.. (1.4 or smaller nozzle size for best results)
 
wait 24-36 hours depending on temperature (do not drive car)
 
sand with 800 wet , use hair dryer again (be sure it become dry completely)
 
increase the sanding area size 2-3 cms bigger in all directions (and arrange the mask area accordingly)
 
prepare your color mixture in a paintshop (250 gr will be more than enough you will use the excess for touch up)
 
check the color tone on a test card and compare with car
 
+ clearcoat with hardener
 
apply paint and clear coat respectively overlapping the clean area..
 
be warned for best results fine size hvlp guns are expensive..
 
after drying sand with 2000 and polish..
 
ps: dont know the prices there but for those kind of small area jobs, small size (half size) hvlp guns are much better..
 
pps:    minimize air pressure, paint shape must be oval  and make a test paint on a metal surface before actual painting.. and clean the gun immediately after painting..
 
 

 
 

[dbdb]

rust can continue even if sealed in so you need to either remove ALL rust or treat it with a chemical like Vactan, a rust convertor.  Revoming all rust is very difficult but you can do it with mechanical means on a smooth surface or a rust eater as long as you prime it immediately after.  The best results I've had are to remove just surface rust and treat with Vactan, then prime on top.  An advantage is vactan is water based and will penetrate so you can get away with minimum paint removal.   Unfortunately for you it dries black.  Seach ebay for Vactan.

[OmegaAnglesey]

Thanks for the tips and advice   

Can anyone recommend a good place to buy paint, have tried Halfords and VX and none have been that good in the past unless they've changed in the past few years 

Not sure what the paint code is but it's a 2002 Star Silver GLS.

[dbug]

Vactan not particularly good from reviews on car clubs - better to use Coca Cola (phosphoric acid), then prime.

(Note I have also tried this product, and don't rate it - water based and a waste of money ime)

[dbdb]

Vactan has excellent ratings from steel boat owners and other people who know.  I have used it for 10 years or more.  Water based is an advantage not a drawback - will penetrate and treat damp rust.

Coca cola is an urban myth surely. 

There are a few good paint suppliers on ebay search for "star silver paint"

[tunnie]

Vactan has excellent ratings from steel boat owners and other people who know.  I have used it for 10 years or more.  Water based is an advantage not a drawback - will penetrate and treat damp rust.

Coca cola is an urban myth surely. 

There are a few good paint suppliers on ebay search for "star silver paint"

Really bad idea, there are 100's of combinations of what that could be. Use the paint code to get the exact, correct colour.

FL Omega's don't rust that bad, its around 70% galvanised, none of ours have any rust around the arches.

Tend to go around the bottom corner of the rear door and on Estates around the rear wiper arm

[Keith ABS]

   Rear wiper arm area rust on estates is cured by sanding off the small lower ridge. As the wiper works, it causes the ridge to move very slightly and rub its way through the paint.
keith B

[VXL V6]

Not sure what the paint code is but it's a 2002 Star Silver GLS.

Z157 Star Silver III

[dbdb]

as said an ebay search for star silver paint will come up with the exact ones because "star silver' is quite a rare term.  obviously 'sunrise red' or 'sea blue' would not worK and not be a good idea.  Try it. 

If you type in the exact code to ebay of course you will get only the right ones but to be honest 'star silver' will not return many irrelevant ones and they will be obvious.

[tunnie]

as said an ebay search for star silver paint will come up with the exact ones because "star silver' is quite a rare term.  obviously 'sunrise red' or 'sea blue' would not worK and not be a good idea.  Try it. 

If you type in the exact code to ebay of course you will get only the right ones but to be honest 'star silver' will not return many irrelevant ones and they will be obvious.

Quite rare?  Many "Star Silver" combination's out there, two Omega ones least 4 Corsa ones (quick Google), also go Astra and so on, all different variants.

To ensure a match, use paint code. 

[dbug]

Vactan has excellent ratings from steel boat owners and other people who know.  I have used it for 10 years or more.  Water based is an advantage not a drawback - will penetrate and treat damp rust.

Coca cola is an urban myth surely. 

There are a few good paint suppliers on ebay search for "star silver paint"

No its not - we used it over 40 years ago successfully on seized and rusted nuts and bolts.  Soak a rusty bolt in it over night!  Now plusgas best for same use.


Best way of dealing with rusty bodywork is to cut it out and replace with new metal   Some treatments are better than others, but even the better ones will not last.