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Re: windows 7
« Reply #45 on: 29 May 2008, 20:35:27 »

I installed a dual boot on my laptop when I first installed Vista.  I found Vista a nightmare when it first came out due to the compatibility issues with drivers and software as mentioned earlier.  

I haven't used xp for a long time now - Vista is far less likely to crash and works fine on my old laptop.  I did upgrade the processor (1.8 Pentium M from a 1.4) and have 2gb of ram and runs quicker than a couple of mates with core 2 processors with a 1gb ram.  I think the ram is a big factor when running vista - 2gb or more is the way to go.
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« Reply #46 on: 29 May 2008, 20:38:07 »

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as a programmer I need a stable and widely used environment

so still xp pro..
I use a mix of XP Pro and Vista for actual programming.  Tending to use more Vista now, catches my bad programming habits earlier ;D


What sort of programming do you do?
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Re: windows 7
« Reply #47 on: 29 May 2008, 20:40:52 »

By the way MS very late decided to support vista for SQL 2005

ie service pack 2  ..
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Re: windows 7
« Reply #48 on: 29 May 2008, 20:52:01 »

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By the way MS very late decided to support vista for SQL 2005

ie service pack 2  ..
I think there may have been a marketing ploy to only run new version of SQL on Vista, only it wasn't ready in time....

....I try not to be cynical...
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Re: windows 7
« Reply #49 on: 29 May 2008, 20:54:47 »

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as a programmer I need a stable and widely used environment

so still xp pro..
I use a mix of XP Pro and Vista for actual programming.  Tending to use more Vista now, catches my bad programming habits earlier ;D


What sort of programming do you do?
Whatever needs doing, on whatever platform needs it.
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« Reply #50 on: 29 May 2008, 21:33:08 »

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By the way MS very late decided to support vista for SQL 2005

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I think there may have been a marketing ploy to only run new version of SQL on Vista, only it wasn't ready in time....

....I try not to be cynical...

Agreed..
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« Reply #51 on: 29 May 2008, 21:50:21 »

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as a programmer I need a stable and widely used environment

so still xp pro..
I use a mix of XP Pro and Vista for actual programming.  Tending to use more Vista now, catches my bad programming habits earlier ;D


What sort of programming do you do?
Whatever needs doing, on whatever platform needs it.

I seem to spend most of the day now in Visual Objects, adding new features all the time. Still suffering from having the best DOS programmes in our market, makes Windows harder.
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Re: windows 7
« Reply #52 on: 29 May 2008, 21:56:36 »

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as a programmer I need a stable and widely used environment

so still xp pro..
I use a mix of XP Pro and Vista for actual programming.  Tending to use more Vista now, catches my bad programming habits earlier ;D


What sort of programming do you do?
Whatever needs doing, on whatever platform needs it.

I seem to spend most of the day now in Visual Objects, adding new features all the time. Still suffering from having the best DOS programmes in our market, makes Windows harder.
.NET is undoubtedly the easiest platform to code for, followed by Win32.  All the others are cumbersome in comparison...
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« Reply #53 on: 29 May 2008, 22:10:09 »

We are going .net for the next version, investigating other database engines, but I am sure we will stay with Advantage Database Server.

I'm going to get a C.NET course though :y

I don't want to know Visual bloody Basic - it's crap!
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« Reply #54 on: 29 May 2008, 22:15:36 »

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We are going .net for the next version, investigating other database engines, but I am sure we will stay with Advantage Database Server.

I'm going to get a C.NET course though :y

I don't want to know Visual bloody Basic - it's crap!
vb.net, esp 2005 and 2008 versions is much better than the old ones.  language is irrelevent in .net.  My own view is c# and vb.net are the most productive, c++ is a bit clunky in .net.

if you're going .net, ms-sql will become the natural db choice, due to excellent integration, and the freebie version is good enough for most things (replication aside)
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« Reply #55 on: 29 May 2008, 22:21:36 »

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We are going .net for the next version, investigating other database engines, but I am sure we will stay with Advantage Database Server.

I'm going to get a C.NET course though :y

I don't want to know Visual bloody Basic - it's crap!
vb.net, esp 2005 and 2008 versions is much better than the old ones.  language is irrelevent in .net.  My own view is c# and vb.net are the most productive, c++ is a bit clunky in .net.

if you're going .net, ms-sql will become the natural db choice, due to excellent integration, and the freebie version is good enough for most things (replication aside)


I cannot stand VB6 the IDE is rubbish and I can't stand the way it breaks my careful formatting.

I want = to line up in a column and they will >:(

As to ms-sql - we will have to benchmark against our current server, which started as a reindeing NLM about 15 years ago and became a server in its own right about 12 years ago (V3) and is now one of the best performing client server engines (V9) - which is also platform neutral NT, NW & Pingu.

I would like to try Vulcan which is VO.NET
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« Reply #56 on: 29 May 2008, 22:29:05 »

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We are going .net for the next version, investigating other database engines, but I am sure we will stay with Advantage Database Server.

I'm going to get a C.NET course though :y

I don't want to know Visual bloody Basic - it's crap!
vb.net, esp 2005 and 2008 versions is much better than the old ones.  language is irrelevent in .net.  My own view is c# and vb.net are the most productive, c++ is a bit clunky in .net.

if you're going .net, ms-sql will become the natural db choice, due to excellent integration, and the freebie version is good enough for most things (replication aside)


I cannot stand VB6 the IDE is rubbish and I can't stand the way it breaks my careful formatting.

I want = to line up in a column and they will >:(

As to ms-sql - we will have to benchmark against our current server, which started as a reindeing NLM about 15 years ago and became a server in its own right about 12 years ago (V3) and is now one of the best performing client server engines (V9) - which is also platform neutral NT, NW & Pingu.

I would like to try Vulcan which is VO.NET
remember vb6 is about 10,000,000 years old.  However, if you need columns in vb6, ole in excel if you can guarantee installed, or use MS Flexgrid included with vb.  Even in .net, still use a grid control ;)

MS-SQL and Oracle are the 2 fastest in the mid range server market. Which of these is fastest depends on the query and whether 32 bit or 64 bit. MS SQL is Windows only, Oracle is more for Unix, though Windows versions available.  MYSQL is making inroads now they have improved scalability.
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« Reply #57 on: 29 May 2008, 22:36:22 »

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We are going .net for the next version, investigating other database engines, but I am sure we will stay with Advantage Database Server.

I'm going to get a C.NET course though :y

I don't want to know Visual bloody Basic - it's crap!
vb.net, esp 2005 and 2008 versions is much better than the old ones.  language is irrelevent in .net.  My own view is c# and vb.net are the most productive, c++ is a bit clunky in .net.

if you're going .net, ms-sql will become the natural db choice, due to excellent integration, and the freebie version is good enough for most things (replication aside)


I cannot stand VB6 the IDE is rubbish and I can't stand the way it breaks my careful formatting.

I want = to line up in a column and they will >:(

As to ms-sql - we will have to benchmark against our current server, which started as a reindeing NLM about 15 years ago and became a server in its own right about 12 years ago (V3) and is now one of the best performing client server engines (V9) - which is also platform neutral NT, NW & Pingu.

I would like to try Vulcan which is VO.NET
remember vb6 is about 10,000,000 years old.  However, if you need columns in vb6, ole in excel if you can guarantee installed, or use MS Flexgrid included with vb.  Even in .net, still use a grid control ;)

MS-SQL and Oracle are the 2 fastest in the mid range server market. Which of these is fastest depends on the query and whether 32 bit or 64 bit. MS SQL is Windows only, Oracle is more for Unix, though Windows versions available.  MYSQL is making inroads now they have improved scalability.


I was thinking I like my code to line up - easy to read and the stupid VB editor removed all of my white space and made the code difficult to read, the small amount I had to work on is distinguished by all variables being the same length.

I want to pit MS SQL up against ADS Sybase bought Extended Systems and kept the dev. team for this one product. Last comparison I saw was a long time ago but ADS wiped the floor with all the others.
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« Reply #58 on: 29 May 2008, 22:37:55 »

Oh our market is single user up to about 30 users, but most customers have between 5 and 10 users. Even the biggest single site in the country is under 25 users.
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Re: windows 7
« Reply #59 on: 30 May 2008, 00:36:13 »

Who cares?  JVM works anywhere :)
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