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Re: Typical!
« Reply #30 on: 05 February 2014, 21:13:50 »

And actually, they don't tickover too well either. Most of the stag systems have a slight hunt, of varying degrees on the v engines. No biggy, but its there.
There speaketh a man with the inferior 3.2. No idle issues whatsoever on the superior 3.0l engine, despite running so rich at idle the trims get hard pinned so hard, they never recover ;)

The 3.0 with the old black single feed vap, older injectors and single hole tank with older stag kit that lags, you mean.
Bit of hunting or lag. I'll have the hunting thanks. Or eventual hunting, to be more accurate. Its nout go do with the car. I had your kit on my other 3.2 don't forget. ;)
Yeah, I reckon its the evap causing that lag. Its fine with a lot of gas in the tank, but occasionally lags with lower gas levels - wonder if thats why you noticed it more on your old one (due to small tank)?

But my point I was trying to make is the superior 3.0l auto doesn't lag in the same way the inferior 3.2l auto does (on petrol).
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Re: Typical!
« Reply #31 on: 05 February 2014, 21:15:04 »

No hunting or lag on this 3.2 on LPG .... (or on petrol although its a long while since I did any distance on that fuel ... )    :) :) :) :)
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« Reply #32 on: 05 February 2014, 21:17:04 »

No hunting or lag on this 3.2 on LPG .... (or on petrol although its a long while since I did any distance on that fuel ... )    :) :) :) :)
Yes there is, as its still a piggyback ecu, and the problem is inherent in the 3.2 petrol ECU.

Its just you drive it in such a way that you don't notice it.

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« Reply #33 on: 05 February 2014, 21:18:24 »

No hunting or lag on this 3.2 on LPG .... (or on petrol although its a long while since I did any distance on that fuel ... )    :) :) :) :)

You sir, are not trying hard enough ;D ;)
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Re: Typical!
« Reply #34 on: 05 February 2014, 21:19:50 »

No hunting or lag on this 3.2 on LPG .... (or on petrol although its a long while since I did any distance on that fuel ... )    :) :) :) :)

You sir, are not trying hard enough ;D ;)

You tried really hard and found no lag when you compared it to yours ...  :)
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« Reply #35 on: 05 February 2014, 21:23:56 »

No hunting or lag on this 3.2 on LPG .... (or on petrol although its a long while since I did any distance on that fuel ... )    :) :) :) :)

You sir, are not trying hard enough ;D ;)

You tried really hard and found no lag when you compared it to yours ...  :)
He wasn't trying hard enough either! ;D
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« Reply #36 on: 05 February 2014, 21:27:29 »

And actually, they don't tickover too well either. Most of the stag systems have a slight hunt, of varying degrees on the v engines. No biggy, but its there.
There speaketh a man with the inferior 3.2. No idle issues whatsoever on the superior 3.0l engine, despite running so rich at idle the trims get hard pinned so hard, they never recover ;)

The 3.0 with the old black single feed vap, older injectors and single hole tank with older stag kit that lags, you mean.
Bit of hunting or lag. I'll have the hunting thanks. Or eventual hunting, to be more accurate. Its nout go do with the car. I had your kit on my other 3.2 don't forget. ;)
Yeah, I reckon its the evap causing that lag. Its fine with a lot of gas in the tank, but occasionally lags with lower gas levels - wonder if thats why you noticed it more on your old one (due to small tank)?
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at the time I wasn't sure what component was causing what symptom, but yes I think your right. The switching back was the tank valve, the lag on changes was worse with a low fuel level, which being smaller meant it was low more often. Lag is lean. Or on this set up, it needs a bit more fuelling anyway(think that's right :-\ ;D )

But my point I was trying to make is the superior 3.0l auto doesn't lag in the same way the inferior 3.2l auto does (on petrol).
Must say I was surprised to see the faults we did on petrol when mapping it with Kev. Suggests room for improvement somewhere ;)

Only question is how hard it is to improve on. Which ultimately means.... How much?
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Re: Typical!
« Reply #37 on: 05 February 2014, 21:29:04 »

No hunting or lag on this 3.2 on LPG .... (or on petrol although its a long while since I did any distance on that fuel ... )    :) :) :) :)

You sir, are not trying hard enough ;D ;)

You tried really hard and found no lag when you compared it to yours ...  :)
He wasn't trying hard enough either! ;D

....and nor would i in someone else's car with the owner sat next to me, remember the journey back from Newent?  :-X ;D
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Re: Typical!
« Reply #38 on: 05 February 2014, 21:35:47 »

Only question is how hard it is to improve on. Which ultimately means.... How much?
If its mapping, its probably possible if you can find someone who is prepared to do it (as little gain for them, unlike performance maps). If its in the coding side, thats likely to be a non starter.
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« Reply #39 on: 05 February 2014, 21:40:31 »

Only question is how hard it is to improve on. Which ultimately means.... How much?
If its mapping, its probably possible if you can find someone who is prepared to do it (as little gain for them, unlike performance maps). If its in the coding side, thats likely to be a non starter.

Can you not get your stethoscope out, or something...? :)
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« Reply #40 on: 05 February 2014, 21:42:56 »

Only question is how hard it is to improve on. Which ultimately means.... How much?
If its mapping, its probably possible if you can find someone who is prepared to do it (as little gain for them, unlike performance maps). If its in the coding side, thats likely to be a non starter.

Can you not get your stethoscope out, or something...? :)
It melted :P
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Re: Typical!
« Reply #41 on: 05 February 2014, 21:54:11 »

Only question is how hard it is to improve on. Which ultimately means.... How much?
If its mapping, its probably possible if you can find someone who is prepared to do it (as little gain for them, unlike performance maps). If its in the coding side, thats likely to be a non starter.

Can you not get your stethoscope out, or something...? :)
It melted :P

I'm sure Kev could lend you one. :)
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Re: Typical!
« Reply #42 on: 05 February 2014, 22:11:55 »

Came across this supplier the other day while pricing up an LPG system.

http://www.lpgshop.co.uk/

Thanks for that - I'll check them out too  :y
How did you get on with your own search? Any joy?
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Re: Typical!
« Reply #43 on: 05 February 2014, 22:14:51 »

No hunting or lag on this 3.2 on LPG .... (or on petrol although its a long while since I did any distance on that fuel ... )    :) :) :) :)

You sir, are not trying hard enough ;D ;)

You tried really hard and found no lag when you compared it to yours ...  :)
He wasn't trying hard enough either! ;D

....and nor would i in someone else's car with the owner sat next to me, remember the journey back from Newent?  :-X ;D
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Re: Typical!
« Reply #44 on: 07 February 2014, 12:51:26 »

Came across this supplier the other day while pricing up an LPG system.

http://www.lpgshop.co.uk/

Thanks for that - I'll check them out too  :y
How did you get on with your own search? Any joy?

Yes, this kit off ebay is a possibility with stag 300-6, KME gold and OMVL injectors at £385.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121020790516?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

The rest of the bits will be from wherever it is cheapest and / or have what I want. It is going to be a few months down the line, before I start on this as I have a long list of jobs to get my car back on the road and I will do this before I think about LPG.

I suspect the total installation cost will be around £800 plus certification.
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