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[SIR Philbutt]

I have a 2.2 auto box here you can have it free of if it helps mate

There is also one on my spares car you can have for free, although the 3rd gear solenoid has gone, but it does have a new filter. I was having the same prob as you

What was wrong with yours in the end phil, if you don't mind me asking?
Very interested in the filter proposition also 

The box (and filter) are still on the car on the drive

You will regret asking 

I was having similar probs as you, not going into, or banging into 3rd gear, limp home mode, auto box error on display.

Did the filter and atf change and saw some improvement but after a while it came back. Consensus on here was that it was 3rd gear solenoid.

Came up with a "put me on" solution until i could change the solenoid.

When it didn't change to 3rd when i expected i would put into N (for a sec) and then back into D and it would re-engage in 3rd and drive normal, changed down and even kicked down. Just going up to 3rd was prob. BTW prob seemed to almost go away during the winter 

As you would expect this solution "put me on" for quite a long time (about 6 months) and then about 3 weeks before I was due to go on holiday (in car) it stopped being a solution, played up in other gears and started to do other things as well as throwing up cam sensor codes.   I played with the thought that it might be because it was summer and warmer 

Anyway out of curiosity looked on the bay and found the one I have now for sale and managed to get them to drop price by a grand and bought it. Holiday sorted and deal with the problem when I got back. Which I put off and put off (1 year) until eventually decided to just strip the car for spares.

Told you'd regret it 

[cd 2.2]

That is exactly what mine is doing !
The only difference is that nothing comes up on the mid, the coolant level low also doesn't (maybe someone disconnected it )

So you never truly got to the root of the cause ? I do notice it's not a commonly posted problem and it's very hard to explain what's happening! You explained it perfectly ... maybe my car is twin to yours I don't think that this is an easy fix tbh, but there has always been hope that I would find the issue in the back of my mind.
Mine has occasionally started to jump up and down gears when slowing down (this happened this afternoon, and previously on monday) !
Makes me wonder if it's just the electrics on the car

[SIR Philbutt]

The reason I am pretty sure it's the solenoid is that this problem has been cured by someone on here, twiglet, webby or tigger not sure. There is a thread, with pictures, but cant find it. Wonder if Rob is reading he can find anything on here.

There is one difference with yours in that your atf has "gone off" since refreshed, mine didn't. This i would guess is a significant clue, is it a consequence of bad gear changing OR a consequence of the probs you've had with the cooler, atf dont like being hot. i'm no expert but lots on here are

I think you must be getting the hint from folks on here that these cars are worth the effort (well apart from stemo ) and the effort you have put in must pay dividends soon. Another unknown car could be the start of the same not the end 

[cd 2.2]

I have to agree, that when they are working, when! They are fantastic and really nice to drive. I don't want to think I would be going back to the start again ... it's been a ball ache getting to where I am with it now 
The thought has often passed my mind of "am I going to have to rebuild the entire thing for it to be right again"? I am even considering ripping out what is in there and putting a non GM engine and box in the car (if that's even possible). I hope I can get over this rut with the car and rest assured ... it's people like yourself SIR Philbutt, TheBoy and other really nice folk that have kept me going with it to this point! I want to keep it, of course I do but I'm at that awkward point of do I proceed or do I bail out fearing spending even more cash that I don't have available trying to fix an issue that can't be fixed (and in theory anything can be fixed)!

I wonder if there is a way of testing the solenoids without using a Tech 2 if I'm going to take off the gearbox sump anyway I would imagine that there must be a way 

[Sir Tigger KC]

You've put so much effort into this car that it would be a shame to walk away at this point and I think you will probably get to the bottom of the gearbox problem in the end. 

[plym ian]

That's why I love my manual less hassle

Keep the car you will regret it. I regret getting rid of my last omega all because it needed head gasket doing for the third time and some welding.




Ps I hope I don't start a auto/manual war

[Steve B]

I have a 2.2 auto box here you can have it free of if it helps mate

There is also one on my spares car you can have for free, although the 3rd gear solenoid has gone, but it does have a new filter. I was having the same prob as you

What was wrong with yours in the end phil, if you don't mind me asking?
Very interested in the filter proposition also 

The box (and filter) are still on the car on the drive

You will regret asking 

I was having similar probs as you, not going into, or banging into 3rd gear, limp home mode, auto box error on display.

Did the filter and atf change and saw some improvement but after a while it came back. Consensus on here was that it was 3rd gear solenoid.

Came up with a "put me on" solution until i could change the solenoid.

When it didn't change to 3rd when i expected i would put into N (for a sec) and then back into D and it would re-engage in 3rd and drive normal, changed down and even kicked down. Just going up to 3rd was prob. BTW prob seemed to almost go away during the winter 

As you would expect this solution "put me on" for quite a long time (about 6 months) and then about 3 weeks before I was due to go on holiday (in car) it stopped being a solution, played up in other gears and started to do other things as well as throwing up cam sensor codes.   I played with the thought that it might be because it was summer and warmer 

Anyway out of curiosity looked on the bay and found the one I have now for sale and managed to get them to drop price by a grand and bought it. Holiday sorted and deal with the problem when I got back. Which I put off and put off (1 year) until eventually decided to just strip the car for spares.

Told you'd regret it 

Ive seen that happen too on the ar25 box. And i wonder if its caused by not using a top of the range fluid.
Ive seen it happen with comma ATF in the box Which is not highly rated on here 
Way of thinking being; The fluid gets too hot in summer  Just a thought
Anyway here is the 2-3 solenoid 

[Steve B]

I wonder how Omegod is getting on with his box. Seem to remember he was about to do a 2-3 solenoid 

[TheBoy]

The filters are expensive from GM, cheaper from JPAT (see sticky in For Sale).

Although the filters clean out well anyway, so rarely a need to replace.

[cd 2.2]

The filters are expensive from GM, cheaper from JPAT (see sticky in For Sale).

Although the filters clean out well anyway, so rarely a need to replace.

Do you just clean them with petrol? and do they need re-sealing or anything on refit?
I'm going to drop the sumps off tomorrow I think, hopefully there will be no thrust washer bits in there and just dirt 

[omegod]

I wonder how Omegod is getting on with his box. Seem to remember he was about to do a 2-3 solenoid 

Didn't solve my problem for long unfortunately but was a piece of piss to change , Looks to be a further solenoid problem and I'm going to change the pressure control one inside the small sump! hopefully a spares car I'm picking up will have a decent one in it

[cd 2.2]

After lots of searching for other suitable cars ... I have decided to keep hold of this one (even if it takes a year to sort out)!
The sumps are definitely coming off tomorrow so I will report as to what I find with hopefully some pictures. I guess there is a possibility that I might fit a manual gearbox but that would require allot of further advice as to what is involved (am I right thinking that the manual is basically a BMW box )!

We will see what tomorrow brings, looking forward to getting covered in smelly ATF (at least I will be non stick  )

[Steve B]

After lots of searching for other suitable cars ... I have decided to keep hold of this one (even if it takes a year to sort out)!
The sumps are definitely coming off tomorrow so I will report as to what I find with hopefully some pictures. I guess there is a possibility that I might fit a manual gearbox but that would require allot of further advice as to what is involved (am I right thinking that the manual is basically a BMW box )!

We will see what tomorrow brings, looking forward to getting covered in smelly ATF (at least I will be non stick  )

How are things going with this. 

[cd 2.2]

not got anything done yet, been too windy and such for me to be bothered 
Not using it at the moment unless absolutely necessary (only 15 miles covered in the last week)! The plan is to keep the mileage as minimal as possible (max 20 miles a week) until we can either get the parts to get it sorted, or get another smaller car as a runabout until this one is fixed I think. For me it's not hurting anything if it sits idle on the drive until July when I get the other car to break as that one has a presumed good gearbox and is in daily use at the minute! Time will tell I guess 

[Steve B]

Robs got a Known good working gearbox (AR35) That may be coming up soon