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[kevinp58]

As where.... Those Avons on the tractor, would it be fair to say?

Whilst offering fairly low grip, esp on acceleration, what a bloody hoot they were (16"). How many here have managed to consistently be able to powerslide an auto tractor. They do hold the record for my rears, just 4000 miles. But a fun 4000 miles

Those Michelins on TBE.

They are just shit once you've worn through the first mm or so. Pilot Sport 3 17". Just nasty.

Ku31 obviously...

I quite liked them (15"), but no good for driving hard, as lack of feedback means you're never sure where fun ends and death starts. But a good mid range tyre. Sadly not available.

And to an extent, F1's. ?

Mid range dry grip (wet grip is good) and high wear rate on the 18" ones I have mean they will not be my next replacement. 17" seem better (perhaps more suited to the car, or maybe the superior PFL is just better)

Michelins are a prime example, they will do mega miles, "IF" driven within their limits.

I defy anybody under the age of 90 to manage to drive within limits. OK, maybe tunnie.

I think TB will over drive sc3 mo too btw. If looking for more mileage from a tyre, TB MUST accept less grip, which obviously means proportionately knocking off a few of those ten tenths to match. Sc3 mo will then suffice under option 2 and still allow good progress.

I've had SC3s before, in 17" guise. "OK" but less grip than my then preferred SP9000, about same life and price. No brainer really at the time. Had SC2s before as well (17"), I felt better than SC3. Still lagging behind SP9000.

Best tyres, as a compromise between grip, life, feedback, comfort and stability for me have been the now obsolete SportMaxx TT. What a stonkingly good tyre for the Omega, consistent over its life, right down to bald as a badgers backside. Had a few sets of them, never disappointed. Always 10-12k from rears, double from fronts.  Tosspots went and replaced them 

As they normally do with shite tyres. 

[TheBoy]

As they normally do with shite tyres. 

The replacements aren't bad, bit more grip at the expense of life, but lack the surefootedness of the TTs

[chrisgixer]

As where.... Those Avons on the tractor, would it be fair to say?

Whilst offering fairly low grip, esp on acceleration, what a bloody hoot they were (16"). How many here have managed to consistently be able to powerslide an auto tractor. They do hold the record for my rears, just 4000 miles. But a fun 4000 miles

Those Michelins on TBE.

They are just shit once you've worn through the first mm or so. Pilot Sport 3 17". Just nasty.

Ku31 obviously...

I quite liked them (15"), but no good for driving hard, as lack of feedback means you're never sure where fun ends and death starts. But a good mid range tyre. Sadly not available.

And to an extent, F1's. ?

Mid range dry grip (wet grip is good) and high wear rate on the 18" ones I have mean they will not be my next replacement. 17" seem better (perhaps more suited to the car, or maybe the superior PFL is just better)

Michelins are a prime example, they will do mega miles, "IF" driven within their limits.

I defy anybody under the age of 90 to manage to drive within limits. OK, maybe tunnie.

I think TB will over drive sc3 mo too btw. If looking for more mileage from a tyre, TB MUST accept less grip, which obviously means proportionately knocking off a few of those ten tenths to match. Sc3 mo will then suffice under option 2 and still allow good progress.

I've had SC3s before, in 17" guise. "OK" but less grip than my then preferred SP9000, about same life and price. No brainer really at the time. Had SC2s before as well (17"), I felt better than SC3. Still lagging behind SP9000.

Best tyres, as a compromise between grip, life, feedback, comfort and stability for me have been the now obsolete SportMaxx TT. What a stonkingly good tyre for the Omega, consistent over its life, right down to bald as a badgers backside. Had a few sets of them, never disappointed. Always 10-12k from rears, double from fronts.  Tosspots went and replaced them 

So, while going a million miles out of your way to take the opposite view on each point, all you've done there is prove option 2) correct in that....

...TB can't drive within the performance level of his tyres. Therefor, must have RT.

Question then is why is TB confused as to which tyre to buy? Get on with it lad!

[05omegav6]

But if TB buys four Autonogrip tyres, his driving style would very quickly adapt to match the tyres. 

Or not... in which case he would never need tyres again

Trouble is, the Omega, when set up properly, actually has a very capable chassis for its bulk Regular exploitation of this fact  requires tyres to match...

[chrisgixer]

But if TB buys four Autonogrip tyres, his driving style would very quickly adapt to match the tyres. 

You've not been in a car with TB. Have you!

"Stupid boy pike!" As TB himself would say

[chrisgixer]

He's talking shite about the Michelins btw. So proving the point quite nicely. They will do 40k miles. Oh yes they will!

...just not with TB driving.



(Or any progressive driver, to be fair)

[Mr.OmegaMan]

Goodyear F1 Asym 2 here 235/45/17 on the 3.2 saloon... No issues whatsoever and I do drive with TC off these days, Yous must really be thrashing your Omegas if your losing grip

I'm confuddled. Why drive with TC off, if its never cutting in anyway 

The car seems more free and handles a bit better, Was used to how the 2.2 handled with that not having TC at all, Just noticed one day it felt better with it off... also a tad better MPG.. Could all be in my head mind 

Even with it off coming out of junctions pretty quickly these tyres don't lose grip. In the wet couldn't say leave TC on then...

[05omegav6]

Simply not trying

[Mr.OmegaMan]

Simply not trying

Could be that too 

[TheBoy]

Goodyear F1 Asym 2 here 235/45/17 on the 3.2 saloon... No issues whatsoever and I do drive with TC off these days, Yous must really be thrashing your Omegas if your losing grip

I'm confuddled. Why drive with TC off, if its never cutting in anyway 

The car seems more free and handles a bit better, Was used to how the 2.2 handled with that not having TC at all, Just noticed one day it felt better with it off... also a tad better MPG.. Could all be in my head mind 

Even with it off coming out of junctions pretty quickly these tyres don't lose grip. In the wet couldn't say leave TC on then...

Completely 100%.  TC has zero impact until the point it needs to intervene. So as well to leave it fully enabled for those times when you are caught out...

[TheBoy]

But if TB buys four Autonogrip tyres, his driving style would very quickly adapt to match the tyres. 

You've not been in a car with TB. Have you!

"Stupid boy pike!" As TB himself would say

Nobody has been in a car with me with Autogrip tyres in the wet. I wouldn't allow it. How they are allowed to sell these is beyond me.

[cem_devecioglu]

But if TB buys four Autonogrip tyres, his driving style would very quickly adapt to match the tyres. 

You've not been in a car with TB. Have you!

"Stupid boy pike!" As TB himself would say

Nobody has been in a car with me with Autogrip tyres in the wet. I wouldn't allow it. How they are allowed to sell these is beyond me.

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