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Re: Music licence for radio in the office?
« Reply #15 on: 18 June 2008, 19:01:37 »

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"whether the performance is played live or by such means as CD, radio, DVD, TV, karaoke etc, whether a charge is made for admission, or whether the performers are paid, a PRS Music Licence is still necessary".
  

Then why should it be paid?The local band gets paid PRS doesn't pay them

Because they are greedy buggers Martin! >:( >:(  They want a cut of the action taking place wherever "customers" are being entertained, so the retailer, pub landlord, music hall owner, promoter, etc has to pay what they make legal claim to. :(
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« Reply #16 on: 18 June 2008, 19:15:57 »

Been to a few gigs where nothing of this sort was done.
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Re: Music licence for radio in the office?
« Reply #17 on: 18 June 2008, 19:16:40 »

Heard on the news the other day that five police stations up and down the country were being reported for playing music without a licence. Whether this is true I don't know  :-/ It could just be spin to raise the profile of the latest push by the prs to coincide with the mailshot that a lot of business's seem to have received recently
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« Reply #18 on: 18 June 2008, 19:20:55 »

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Been to a few gigs where nothing of this sort was done.

Then there could eventually be a legal problem! ;)
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« Reply #19 on: 18 June 2008, 19:27:09 »

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yes you do need a liscence to play the radio. F*CK*NG B*LL*CKS aint it. 1 way around this is to play tapes or cd's. you DON'T need a liscence for this as you've all ready paid for the material.  

Sorry Chris, but yes you do! :o :o

If you are "Broadcasting" or "Performing" the material, which you are if playing it in a commercial situation to more than 2 people, then a Performing Rights Licence has to be purchased.  :'(

Just look at the copyright conditions on any tape, CD, DVD, etc.  

i stand corrected.  :-[ :-[ :-[
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« Reply #20 on: 18 June 2008, 19:32:23 »

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yes you do need a liscence to play the radio. F*CK*NG B*LL*CKS aint it. 1 way around this is to play tapes or cd's. you DON'T need a liscence for this as you've all ready paid for the material.  

Sorry Chris, but yes you do! :o :o

If you are "Broadcasting" or "Performing" the material, which you are if playing it in a commercial situation to more than 2 people, then a Performing Rights Licence has to be purchased.  :'(

Just look at the copyright conditions on any tape, CD, DVD, etc.  

i stand corrected.  :-[ :-[ :-[

You are not alone Kris in not knowing about all this, which I know applies to a lot of retailers / businesses ;D ;)!  In the world we live in today there is always some bugger who wants a cut of your pleasure!  Where's it going to end? :o :o :o
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« Reply #21 on: 18 June 2008, 19:35:41 »

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Been to a few gigs where nothing of this sort was done.

Then there could eventually be a legal problem! ;)


Too long ago

Anyway I expect PRS shills are flammable
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« Reply #22 on: 18 June 2008, 19:36:54 »

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yes you do need a liscence to play the radio. F*CK*NG B*LL*CKS aint it. 1 way around this is to play tapes or cd's. you DON'T need a liscence for this as you've all ready paid for the material.  

Sorry Chris, but yes you do! :o :o

If you are "Broadcasting" or "Performing" the material, which you are if playing it in a commercial situation to more than 2 people, then a Performing Rights Licence has to be purchased.  :'(

Just look at the copyright conditions on any tape, CD, DVD, etc.  

So does that mean Private Hire and Taxi"s need a license.??

Not absolutely certain about taxi's, but as you are entertaining, even unintentionally, members of the public paying a fare I believe so.  This applies to coaches and trains I know. :y

STOP PRESS:  Out of interest just checked on the PRS web site and they state :


"whether the performance is played live or by such means as CD, radio, DVD, TV, karaoke etc, whether a charge is made for admission, or whether the performers are paid, a PRS Music Licence is still necessary".
 
 
 

Im gonna put a notice up in my cab then......

"The radio is on for my listening purposes only, you are not to listen as well"   :D  ;D

Im certainly not buying one!!
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« Reply #23 on: 18 June 2008, 19:40:24 »

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yes you do need a liscence to play the radio. F*CK*NG B*LL*CKS aint it. 1 way around this is to play tapes or cd's. you DON'T need a liscence for this as you've all ready paid for the material.  

Sorry Chris, but yes you do! :o :o

If you are "Broadcasting" or "Performing" the material, which you are if playing it in a commercial situation to more than 2 people, then a Performing Rights Licence has to be purchased.  :'(

Just look at the copyright conditions on any tape, CD, DVD, etc.  

So does that mean Private Hire and Taxi"s need a license.??

Not absolutely certain about taxi's, but as you are entertaining, even unintentionally, members of the public paying a fare I believe so.  This applies to coaches and trains I know. :y

STOP PRESS:  Out of interest just checked on the PRS web site and they state :


"whether the performance is played live or by such means as CD, radio, DVD, TV, karaoke etc, whether a charge is made for admission, or whether the performers are paid, a PRS Music Licence is still necessary".
 
 
 

Im gonna put a notice up in my cab then......

"The radio is on for my listening purposes only, you are not to listen as well"   :D  ;D

Im certainly not buying one!!

Don't blame you really TD!  Just plead ignorance if the PRS "Police" catch up with you! ;D ;D ;)
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Re: Music licence for radio in the office?
« Reply #24 on: 18 June 2008, 21:04:18 »

I believe this also applies to music played on the phone system while waiting on the line, most offices just stick a CD in or hook it up to the radio, but a license is still needed...

I our office people listen to music over the Internet (Internet radio, YouTube, MTV, etc) individually, and the phone system  just beeps when you are on hold, so no need for license...



 



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Re: Music licence for radio in the office?
« Reply #25 on: 18 June 2008, 21:10:39 »

I heard on the news today that 2 mechanics were being done for £700 eack, cost and back licence fee's.  There was some mention that as a work place.....something or other, but as the public could hear in in thier work place then this created an issue.

So if thats the case how to coach drivers and taxi drivers go on as they carry the public arround as passengers.?
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« Reply #26 on: 18 June 2008, 21:52:20 »

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I heard on the news today that 2 mechanics were being done for £700 eack, cost and back licence fee's.  There was some mention that as a work place.....something or other, but as the public could hear in in thier work place then this created an issue.

So if thats the case how to coach drivers and taxi drivers go on as they carry the public arround as passengers.?

As I tried to explain earlier it would seem that they come under carrying fare paying members of the public, which under the legal aspects of the PRS means a licence must be obtained if they "perform" / "Broardcast" music to them. ;)
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Re: Music licence for radio in the office?
« Reply #27 on: 19 June 2008, 03:38:31 »

my friend who runs a mobile disco has just had one of these letters. something about..."did you know you may be contravening laws if you don't have a prs licence....."

seeing as every venue he plays in already has a prs licence this seems a sneaky way of asking for a double fee!

i got to chat with a prs rep in a club last year and he just had to write down every track that was played. this sampling then goes back to hq and they determine which artist gets what percentage of the fees based on this approximation.

Funny thing was, it was easy in the 80s bar he said, but a pain in the club as he had to keep asking the dj what track that was! and was stumped when told "one of mine on a white label... do i get the prs money then mate?!"

i'm really curious as to where this prs stuff has come from recently as they've been around a long time!

i remember back in the early nineties problems with broadcasting to a lot of people could be counter to the criminal justice act but that seems to have gone away. maybe prs is a weaker attempt to tax the aural senses!
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Re: Music licence for radio in the office?
« Reply #28 on: 19 June 2008, 20:48:10 »

This PRS has been an issue to coach drivers for years. It occasionally comes to a head and then dies off again.
Yes every coach which plays videos, tapes, cd's or just has the radio on has to have a PRS licence.
I must admit most don't have it.

Occasionally the PRS people have a fling and 'do' a few people then calm down again. During this time, people panic and buy the licence. Once you have one, they've got you.
Unfortunately there is no way out legally.

I don't know if taxi's come under the same rules, perhaps it depends on the ammount of people who might listen.
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