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Rear bearing needs replacing
« on: 26 February 2016, 12:03:32 »

Well it's one job after the other at the moment!

The drone from the back of the car appears to be the passenger rear bearing. Jacked up with the handbrake off I'm getting about 5mm play top and bottom and side to side. Glad I checked this out as the local garage told me it was probably my tyres.

Have looked at the guide on how to do this and have to say it looks a bit scary. Will have a go though.
Will need to get a bearing puller and the necessary bolts to remove the hub. Can anyone suggest the one I should buy or has anyone got one I could borrow?
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Re: Rear bearing needs replacing
« Reply #1 on: 26 February 2016, 12:46:38 »

Without the right tools it is quite a job! But, it's ok to do on stands with the right tools.  :y
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Re: Rear bearing needs replacing
« Reply #2 on: 26 February 2016, 14:14:34 »

You have to pull the drive-flange off the hub, I use a modified Mini-flywheel puller, but a nut welded to a strap across the bolt PCD will work fine as it isn't tight.


This set is good for the bearing   http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Wheel-Bearing-Removal-Professional-Tool-Set-Kit-For-Front-Wheel-Drive-Heavy-Duty-/252134896364?hash=item3ab46932ec:g:GQMAAOSwl9BWJzCh


But that's the easy bit, as you will need to fabricate something to remove the hub; I found that trying to jack it out using the wheelbolts wasn't effective.


You'll also have to remove the inner bearing race off the hub, a careful slice with an angle grinder(a Dremel will also work but is much more work)


The bearing tool works for fitting the new bearing.


You can pull the hub back through the bearing using it's own threads and some suitable spacers; the old inner race can be used if it's a now loose fit, and I have an old one bored out 1mm to do the same thing.


Torquing it is awkward due to access and the required setting.




The whole thing is easily doable in a couple of hours working in the street.
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Re: Rear bearing needs replacing
« Reply #3 on: 26 February 2016, 21:12:21 »

You can pull the hub back through the bearing using it's own threads and some suitable spacers; the old inner race can be used if it's a now loose fit, and I have an old one bored out 1mm to do the same thing.

Trying to picture how this would work?

Thinking of buying the bearing from carparts4less. They are showing a number of suitable bearings. Considering the Lucas @ £31.14
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Re: Rear bearing needs replacing
« Reply #4 on: 26 February 2016, 22:19:16 »

You can pull the hub back through the bearing using it's own threads and some suitable spacers; the old inner race can be used if it's a now loose fit, and I have an old one bored out 1mm to do the same thing.

Trying to picture how this would work?

Thinking of buying the bearing from carparts4less. They are showing a number of suitable bearings. Considering the Lucas @ £31.14


Here's a sketch of the hub:





The red area is where the bearing goes, and it is a light press fit. This means you have to force it into place, and hammering it into a bearing isn't a good idea.


The splined, blue area is for the drive flange.


When you start the hub into the bearing, the threaded portion and some of the splined area poke out the back. The spacer goes over the splines, and you crank the nut up to pull the hub into place. When that setup bottoms out you undo the nut, add another spacer and repeat until the hub is fully seated in the bearing. Then you remove the spacers, fit the drive flange and torque up the nut.




About £30 for the bearing seems about right to me.
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Re: Rear bearing needs replacing
« Reply #5 on: 27 February 2016, 08:43:56 »

Perfectly clear now, an excellent explanation. Thanks very much for that.

I was looking at the how to in the maintenance section where a complicated setup was used to get the hub back in with the drive flange in place.

Thanks for the heads up on the bearing removal kit on the bay.

Will get everything ordered up. No doubt I will be back for further advice :-\
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Re: Rear bearing needs replacing
« Reply #6 on: 27 February 2016, 09:01:31 »

Remember saloon and estate different bearing

Saloon 90510542
Estate  90486468
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Re: Rear bearing needs replacing
« Reply #7 on: 01 April 2016, 16:38:44 »

Okay. Gearing up to have a go at this.
Understand how to go about getting the drive flange off the hub.

But the hub out of the bearing. Could try the jacking out method. Does anyone know the size and pitch of the bolts I will need to obtain? Or does anyone have a better method?
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Re: Rear bearing needs replacing
« Reply #8 on: 01 April 2016, 16:57:21 »

I have the proper tool for removing and inserting the bearing and it's for sale if you want to buy it £45 plus postage :y
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Re: Rear bearing needs replacing
« Reply #9 on: 01 April 2016, 17:08:55 »

I have bearing puller that I will be able to use to get the bearing out and the new one in. Is that what you have or something to get the hub out of the bearing?
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Re: Rear bearing needs replacing
« Reply #10 on: 01 April 2016, 17:10:51 »

it's the proper vauxhall tool made by kent moore can be done complete on axle stands :y
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Re: Rear bearing needs replacing
« Reply #11 on: 01 April 2016, 17:50:48 »

Thanks for the offer. Just to confirm as I think my request may be a bit confusing due to me not knowing names of parts: Is this for getting the hub flange out of the bearing? Or for getting the bearing out of the hub?
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Re: Rear bearing needs replacing
« Reply #12 on: 01 April 2016, 18:23:31 »

It's for both :y
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Re: Rear bearing needs replacing
« Reply #13 on: 01 April 2016, 18:26:28 »

Here is what I use:


to remove the hub I knocked up this extractor out of Scrapbiniumtm





That's an offcut of 80mm hydraulic tubing, a thick steel disc which had already done several other jobs, a couple of thick steel lugs and an M16 nut all welded together on the car. No precision, finesse or even measuring was was used to do this, and all fitting was done with an angle grinder. It bolts on the back of the semi-trailing arm using the brake backing plate boltholes(and their bolts) and a long M16 bolt effortlessly pushes the hub through the bearing. It's done 4 so far, which has handsomely repaid the 10minutes it took to make. I didn't have any success using the wheelbolts to jack the hub out.


For the bearing I use this set





which is readily available and works great for removing and replacing the bearing.




I pull the hub back through the new bearing using its own nut and a couple of spacers(two old inner bearing races bored to be a loose fit on the hub)


An impact wrench makes light work of using both pullers.




This takes less than 2hours working in the street.
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Re: Rear bearing needs replacing
« Reply #14 on: 02 April 2016, 09:16:02 »

It's for both :y
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