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[Crazycarzowner]

Could I use that excuse to throw away my Number Plates and argue that it would involve too much administative effort to pursue me?
There are many times more than 9 million motorists, yet they definitely do manage to fine/prosecute us.....

Ron.

Yes do! see how far it gets you!!!!!!!!!!!

I ain't disagreeing with you all I'm saying is for a £30 fine do you really think that the government is gonna spend million of ££££ to set up a new database for none endorsable fines?

There are loads of laws / procedures we'd like to see changed, but trying to even implement such is like trying to plat fog!!!!

How far would you have us go??? Sitting outside someones house in plain gear waiting for them to leave on their unregistered / licensed pushbike??? Oh hang on a minute, that'll be entrapment 

[Bigron]

Jason, I never said the fines were to be non-endorsable - let's make it the full Monty, including compulsory 3rd party insurance to cover the injusies that they are bound to inflict on pedestrians as they tear along pavements.
Are you saying that entrapment never takes place anyway? Hmmm.....

Ron.

P.S. We are on the same side, really - and great to hear that you will be a shiney-arse next week!

[Crazycarzowner]

Jason, I never said the fines were to be non-endorsable - let's make it the full Monty, including compulsory 3rd party insurance to cover the injusies that they are bound to inflict on pedestrians as they tear along pavements.
Are you saying that entrapment never takes place anyway? Hmmm.....

Ron.

P.S. We are on the same side, really - and great to hear that you will be a shiney-arse next week!

& how the hell would you police that then???

You'd have to license EVERYONE that rides a bike - from 5 yr old Billy to 80odd year old lycra clad grandad!!! Oh and get each & every offence(s) & codes passed in parliament (that's if the license even made it that far)

Oh and while we are on about entrapment as you call it :-

In criminal law, entrapment is a practice whereby a law enforcement agent induces a person to commit a criminal offense that the person would have otherwise been unlikely to commit. It is a conduct that is generally discouraged and thus, in many jurisdictions, is a possible defense against criminal liability.

If someone is speeding down the road and an officer is stood 1 mile away with a speed gun how can the officer induce the person to commit the criminal act of speeding? How can he have any impact on the driver putting his foot on the accelerator??? If he's speeding, he's speeding and would be whether the officer was there or not!

[Rods2]

Jason, I never said the fines were to be non-endorsable - let's make it the full Monty, including compulsory 3rd party insurance to cover the injusies that they are bound to inflict on pedestrians as they tear along pavements.
Are you saying that entrapment never takes place anyway? Hmmm.....

Ron.

P.S. We are on the same side, really - and great to hear that you will be a shiney-arse next week!

In WWI with US ships being sunk by German Uboats, a US politician was asked what the US Government should do to solve the problem? The politician replied: "Just boil off all the water in the Atlantic and the Uboats will have nowhere to hide!" When he asked the politician how that can be achieved? The politician said: "My job is to make policy, implementation is somebody else's problem."

IMO your bicycles and number plates, fits into the same category as the above.. UK cyclists unlike UK vehicle drivers don't kill 3000+ of themselves and other road users a year.

[Bigron]

No "5 year old billy" would ever be arrested since, as you of all people will know, he would be below the age of criminal responsibility.
My entrapment comment did not relate to speeding and it was rather disingenuous to suggest it did as it was meant to express my incredulity about claims that police never employ such tactics. Press reports give us cause to doubt that claim!

Ron.