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Talk about a positive start to 2017

[2boxerdogs]

Doesn't look bad, my 2.6 CDX which I sold on the bay a year ago to a member on here made £750 and was much better condition wise ,so this could do the same.As for being a classic never, a curiosity maybe.

[ted_one]

Not sure what's happened here,the post is not complete...will try to get it back

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Anywaaaay..................the listing has ended after one day. I imagine someone made him an offer he couldn't refuse. Without knowing the amount involved, that could have been a mistake on the part of the seller. As I said previously, nice 3.2,s are thin on the ground. Particularily with mileage that low. Miles clocked doesn't really matter as much as good servicing with these cars, but many potential buyers may not be aware of that.

[ted_one]

Bugger! nothing to moan about now,other than I was getting my insurance sorted out on my 3.2 Elite this morning,they want £250 not bad they value the car at £380 'kin hell,and we're waffling about the Omega becoming a classic....pissed my self laughing! FFS  

[korum]

I think the biggest problem with it getting to classic status in the uk at least is that there was no special edition, If vauxhall had given the V8 plans to someone like MSD we might of ended up with a nice V8 GSI.

Think about it like this when you talk to a car enthusiast about the carlton they think Lotus, when you talk about omega they think cop car/boring cruiser.

[johnnydog]

A friend of mine has a facelift (2000 year) 3.0 Elite. His insurance have agreed to insure it as a classic car, with the obvious benefits of agreed value, and a much lower premium. There is an annual mileage restriction, but this can be tailored to the owners needs.
If insurance companies are willing to insure Omegas as classic cars, then maybe all the doom and gloom in this topic maybe unfounded?
I have several Triumph 2000's and 2.5PI's; the latter were scrapped for fun during fuel shortages or were converted to carbs, and at one point in their lifetime were near worthless. Although they don't have the classic status of Stags or TR's, good examples are now fetching good money, and can fetch between 5-10K depending on the model. Good 2.5PI's are now difficult to find and can command really strong money.
The Omega is now at that low point value wise, and good ones especially 3.2 Elites for example, can only go one way now if looked after, in my opinion.
I regularly get people saying to me - 'I had one of these Omegas years ago, and it was one of the best cars I ever had'.
I also remember people saying the exact same comment to me in the early late 80's and early 90's about my Triumphs.
I wouldn't be too keen to write the Omega off just yet......

[ted_one]

Just been through the fleet,valued the three on todays insurance estimates at less than a grand,long,long way to go methinks,I guess you can only dream and still laughing

[anV6]

Exactly what we're trying to project,and in a way you have partly hit the nail on the head,I also mooched around the VX Heritage centre a couple of times thinking that I had missed their example,obviously not worthy of being an exhibit.So if the manufacturer of the Omega is on the surface is almost ignoring its existence, then where will the recognition come from??
Answer is obvious....on here of course, and again you need to go to the shows to see wether the general public are interested in the Omega,

Nitro, I don't wish to keep this back and forth with you where you keep repeating yourself and I keep repeating myself. The only real way to know it is to meet here again in 30 years.

But I must say you are being short sighted. You seem to be looking at it from the UK point of view. Very short sighted indeed in this day and age. The UK is neither the whole world or the center of it. The Omega was an international product, sold also overseas outside of Europe as well as in the rest of Europe, where the UK is the 11th largest piece of land. So looking only at the UK market is hardly any real indication. Opel is huge in the Netherlands and has a big following in countries like Germany, France and especially Poland and the rest of the eastern block.

So the Omega has the same chances all the other large RWD Opel cars had to become a classic. I'm not sure how is the scene currently back in the UK. But around here classic Opels have value. I'm not even going to go too far back where some classic Opels fetch over 40.000 Euros for a mint example. Or the special classic models that sell for over 70.000 Euros. Let's just go no further back than the 70's and only look at the direct ancestors of the Omega. These sell for anything between 10.000 and 20.000 Euros depending on the version. These are not the special V8s. These are mass produced 4 and 6 cylinders 4 doors Opel saloons.

So Opels do have their fans. The Kadett D took the third spot in the top 10 cars which more appreciated in the last 5 years for example. And the Omega is not less important than any of the mass produced 70's Opels. Actually it's more special because it's the last of them. It is just too young yet.

About the Omega not being present in the Vauxhall museum, I'm not sure what the big deal is or why it matters so much. It's not even a Vauxhall. It's an Opel. There are no more Vauxhalls. Only re-badged Opels and a couple of Holdens, which are soon to go the way of Vauxhalls too. Maybe Vauxhall has limited space and wants to dedicate the space to the real Vauxhalls classics. Or maybe they use a rotation system and the Omega just wasn't there when you went? Was the Vectra one of the race cars? Regardless it doesn't mean much that there is no Omega there. At the Opel museum the Omega is represented just fine, with a couple examples actually.

Here's one alongside none other than the Lotus at the Opel museum:



The Omega is an Opel and is well represented at the Opel museum. It’s important to look at the big picture and not only from your limited “neighbourhood” perspective. But I know we will have to set for agreeing to disagree. So see you in 30 years to settle it. 

[anV6]

What a depressing thread.... There is Migv6 sharing a Omega 3.2 Elite for sale, Not long after this thread has turned into something else.   

Re.. The car for sale, Looks nice enough, Just a shame about the colour. Could make someone a nice car though.

Re.. The classic status. I personally believe the Omega (mainly the 3.0/3.2 Elite/MV6) will reach a similar classic status to the Carlton GSi / Senator 3.0 24v... No idea about the Omega 2.0s, 2.2s, 2.5s, 2.6s cd, cdx etc... Time will tell...

Als on a sidenote... It is odd how the Vauxhall heritage center with the vast amount of cars they have there including a Vectra B they do not have one Omega.... Nor does Vauxhall/Opel seem to acknowledge the existence of the Omega in their social media posts (Throwback pictures, history etc...)

Indeed it is depressing. The negativity kind of makes you look again at the url to make sure you are in an Omega Fan forum. 

[anV6]

A friend of mine has a facelift (2000 year) 3.0 Elite. His insurance have agreed to insure it as a classic car, with the obvious benefits of agreed value, and a much lower premium. There is an annual mileage restriction, but this can be tailored to the owners needs.
If insurance companies are willing to insure Omegas as classic cars, then maybe all the doom and gloom in this topic maybe unfounded?
I have several Triumph 2000's and 2.5PI's; the latter were scrapped for fun during fuel shortages or were converted to carbs, and at one point in their lifetime were near worthless. Although they don't have the classic status of Stags or TR's, good examples are now fetching good money, and can fetch between 5-10K depending on the model. Good 2.5PI's are now difficult to find and can command really strong money.
The Omega is now at that low point value wise, and good ones especially 3.2 Elites for example, can only go one way now if looked after, in my opinion.
I regularly get people saying to me - 'I had one of these Omegas years ago, and it was one of the best cars I ever had'.
I also remember people saying the exact same comment to me in the early late 80's and early 90's about my Triumphs.
I wouldn't be too keen to write the Omega off just yet......

Exactly! Many valuable classics go through that stage of worthless value. But then at some point they just click. Has happened so many times and then you get people saying things like "I wish I had bought one when they went for peanuts".

I also agree that the top V6 Omegas are now at rock bottom and can only go up from here. If you have a great example in hands it will never be worth less than it is now. 

[Nick W]

In thirty years time, the remaining Omegas will be as valuable and sought after as Crestas, Viscounts and VX4/90s are today.
They're worthless today and good ones are still easy to find so values aren't likely to rise for some time. Rarity coupled with demand is what causes price increases, and the demand for a 20 year old Omega is already non existent.

[anV6]

In thirty years time, the remaining Omegas will be as valuable and sought after as Crestas, Viscounts and VX4/90s are today.
They're worthless today and good ones are still easy to find so values aren't likely to rise for some time. Rarity coupled with demand is what causes price increases, and the demand for a 20 year old Omega is already non existent.

Speaking from the perspective of living on an island or globally, which is what really matters?

[ted_one]

anV6...go to page 4 of the Omega Gallery, title...''my three money pits'' and tell me that I don't care about Omegas! That's 20+ grands worth of investment at that point and it's work in progress at all times,and yes even today!So please cut the pre-judgement crap about a person you don't know and hopefully won't.You haven't been on here long enough to know that, what is being said is a lot of 'tongue in cheek' and yes, we are allowed to make comments about our cars and make opinions as to the future of the marque, I for one am doing just that, but unfortunately you seem to think that you have all the answers....hello! you don't!  btw I am aware that the world is round and yes I am aware of the various followings of the countries that you have outlined.The question is do we care? more than likely not!

[anV6]

Oh, wow! So this is how far the piss taking goes? Till somebody gets back at you and you don't like it?

Then we lose our cool?

Ok, you brought up some interesting points. Shall we address them? Or are you going to flip again? Honestly, after how much I have taken here it surprises me that you would flip like that, specially after being one of those who repeatedly personally attacked me. So ok then, let's do it.

anV6...go to page 4 of the Omega Gallery, title...''my three money pits'' and tell me that I don't care about Omegas! That's 20+ grands worth of investment at that point and it's work in progress at all times,and yes even today!

I don't need to. I'm not saying you don't care for the Omega. I'm saying you are being short sighted about it's classic value and you are.

So please cut the pre-judgement crap about a person you don't know and hopefully won't.

But isn't that what some, including you have been doing to me since I got here? Pre-judging me? Calling me a troll, saying I'm just here to wind people up. Didn't you actually accuse me of being some Chris person (who I have never heard of) just the other day? That is not pre-judgement? I guess that is only an one way street then? 

You haven't been on here long enough to know that, what is being said is a lot of 'tongue in cheek' and yes, we are allowed to make comments about our cars and make opinions as to the future of the marque,

Yes you are. And am I not then?

I for one am doing just that,

So am I. I think the Omega has a future as a classic. You don't. That's all there is to it.

but unfortunately you seem to think that you have all the answers....hello! you don't! 

I don't think I have all the answers or I wouldn't be here. I have learned a lot about this cars from the nice people here who try to help. But I'm not new to the world of cars and specially classic cars. I'm not new to the world of Opel. I'm not even 100% new to the world of the Omega. I just know nowhere as much as the experts here about it's mechanics and ins and outs. But I do know about cars. I have been into them for a long while.

tbtw I am aware that the world is round and yes I am aware of the various followings of the countries that you have outlined.The question is do we care? more than likely not!

This I already figured. You didn't have to point it out. Hence why I said you are being short sighted in your assessment of the Omega's status as a classic. 

Look! Don't take this as a personal attack. It is not! You and many here have personally attacked me and I stayed cool so far. I'm just expressing my opinion and backing it up with facts. That's all. Sorry if it doesn't match yours. It doesn't make me angry at you. Apparently you are not as good of a sport.