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Re: This might be of interest, but it won't go cheap...
« Reply #30 on: 18 January 2017, 17:02:22 »

I cannot understand why people LPG their cars if you can't afford the petrol get a smaller vehicle, that said if they can't afford the fuel they probably skimp on maintenance as well.

100% agree.   :y  Least it saves you going to look at said car in the first place. It's like an early warning flag.  ;D
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Re: This might be of interest, but it won't go cheap...
« Reply #31 on: 18 January 2017, 17:05:57 »

I cannot understand why people LPG their cars if you can't afford the petrol get a smaller vehicle, that said if they can't afford the fuel they probably skimp on maintenance as well.

100% agree.   :y  Least it saves you going to look at said car in the first place. It's like an early warning flag.  ;D
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Every time I see a car for sale that's been converted they always look as rough as f**k.
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Re: This might be of interest, but it won't go cheap...
« Reply #32 on: 18 January 2017, 21:45:00 »

Sure sounds like it to me.... just looking at the small bits of grot, that's usually a sign that it's far worse around the bits you can't see. After spending well over a grand on mine in the last year, and finding out where the problems really are, it does give a good insight into what lurks below. Grotty wheelarches aren't much to worry about in the grand scheme of things


You're right, repairing arches and sills aren't too bad, especially as the sills are covered.
I would be far more concerned about the front chassis rails above the crossmember, as every Omega I've looked at in the last 18months has been a bit crusty there, and even patching a rotten one would be a horrible job. Having to do it properly would make me think twice about my car.
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Re: This might be of interest, but it won't go cheap...
« Reply #33 on: 18 January 2017, 22:17:58 »

MoT history suggests brake pipes all need replacing...
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Re: This might be of interest, but it won't go cheap...
« Reply #34 on: 18 January 2017, 22:40:07 »

Have covered the best part of 400k miles in various Vauxhall V6,s with my present job and all have been petrol.

I pay for my own fuel but am able to offset the running costs against total business usage so whilst the costs of fuel are high and I need to earn the money before I spend it on fuel,I have done the maths so many times and it always comes down in favour of having a large comfortable cheap to purchase car which I can either maintain myself or with help.

Everytime I drive my current car  I appreciate what a great car it is,comfortable.very quick and has almost every toy I could wish for.Wouldnt swop it ,and will continue maintaining  it in the best possible way I can,so fail to understand why this car has had all that love and money spent on it but cant put it through an MOT before hoping to sell it ...plain mad   
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« Reply #35 on: 18 January 2017, 22:48:27 »

Have covered the best part of 400k miles in various Vauxhall V6,s with my present job and all have been petrol.

I pay for my own fuel but am able to offset the running costs against total business usage so whilst the costs of fuel are high and I need to earn the money before I spend it on fuel,I have done the maths so many times and it always comes down in favour of having a large comfortable cheap to purchase car which I can either maintain myself or with help.

Everytime I drive my current car  I appreciate what a great car it is,comfortable.very quick and has almost every toy I could wish for.Wouldnt swop it ,and will continue maintaining  it in the best possible way I can,so fail to understand why this car has had all that love and money spent on it but cant put it through an MOT before hoping to sell it ...plain mad
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My sentiments exactly  the car is a scrapper, I would imagine that it would fail the MOT catastrophically.
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Re: This might be of interest, but it won't go cheap...
« Reply #36 on: 18 January 2017, 23:15:09 »

Might buy it just to find out...

I can always sell the bits to anv6 if it does fail... :D
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« Reply #37 on: 18 January 2017, 23:27:47 »

Might buy it just to find out...

I can always sell the bits to anv6 if it does fail... :D
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Re: This might be of interest, but it won't go cheap...
« Reply #38 on: 19 January 2017, 07:19:54 »

Recent MOT history is pretty good. Slight corrosion to brake pipes was an advisory a year ago. Its covered 9k in the last year.
I suppose a lot can happen in 9k miles.  :-\
He sayas car is SORNed & uninsured so he cant take it for test, which sounds plausible.
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Re: This might be of interest, but it won't go cheap...
« Reply #39 on: 19 January 2017, 10:45:07 »

Last time I changed cars I got my insurance company to overlap the cover by a month or so at no cost, so it wouldn't have been difficult to take it for a test..

Then again, with something new and shiny on the driveway that likely cost many times what an Omega is worth, I can understand not being bothered, when the car is not going to fetch much anyway. What is an MOT worth on the value? Couple of hundred quid less any work it needs?

It's got enough MOT to tax it and drive it home. Once that runs out he's got a real headache shifting it. ;D
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Re: This might be of interest, but it won't go cheap...
« Reply #40 on: 19 January 2017, 10:54:24 »

If it were a classified ad and they were asking strong money, then I would agree re MoT and LPG. As it is, it's reached a pretty good price, and with the recent work, it will only be whatever the MoT throws up and go from there...
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Re: This might be of interest, but it won't go cheap...
« Reply #41 on: 19 January 2017, 11:18:12 »

Recent MOT history is pretty good. Slight corrosion to brake pipes was an advisory a year ago. Its covered 9k in the last year.
I suppose a lot can happen in 9k miles.  :-\
He sayas car is SORNed & uninsured so he cant take it for test, which sounds plausible.
Yes and no. He could insure it for a day and , IIRC, you're allowed to drive to an MOT appointment without tax.
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Re: This might be of interest, but it won't go cheap...
« Reply #42 on: 20 January 2017, 17:46:57 »

I haven't been on here for a while, but I thought I would share my (totally unbiased) opinion of this car.

I have made a decision to take my BMW off the road for quite some time when the weather warms up, and bite the bullet with some overhaul work. I was considering buying this to use for that period, and, then depending on how much work it needed, sell as is, break, or fix up and keep as a toy, when beemer is fixed.

I phoned the seller, and made him an offer of £800 cash, sold unseen, provided it ran OK on petrol. The seller declined this offer.

I had a very long phone conversation with him. His name is Nigel, and he runs a small joinery business, which is why he has the Estate car. He has just changed this car for (from memory) a 2005 Honda Civic. I may have got the year wrong, but I'm sure that's what he said.

A few things to note

- All of the work described in the add has been carried out by the sellers God son. He works with Japanese Cars, I am sure he said Honda, and has done most of the work on this Omega, including the thermostat, DIS pack, but not the suspension work, and not the cambelt, because he didn't fancy doing that (Fair enough if he's not done them before!) and probably didn't have a locking kit.

- The LPG tank is not in the spare wheel well, it's a cylinder behind the rear seats. Better for range, but useful information because it's useless to someone who wants to use an estate, for, well, an estate.

- There is an issue with the hydraulics and brakes of sorts. The seller stated they work fine, but when his god son changed the brakes, he did a fluid change, and has put some sort of synthetic fluid in there designed for new Japanese cars, and as a result the brake operation is very light. Apparently they stop you fine, but the pedal feels extremely light - as does the clutch pedal to an extent.

- No diagnostic work done on the LPG system to find the fault. The godson thought it was the dispack, but it wasn't. I think he said it's been missing on LPG a few months.

Personal view is this

Seller turned down £800 cash sale. He said he's been inundated with contact via ebay and had over 50 watchers. He said he wants to let the auction run because he's hoping for a higher price.
Personally think he will struggle to achieve this without an MOT.

Bit odd not popping it in for a test IMHO, as a car with only a few days is pretty worthless. You can insure a car for a day with numerous providers for a v good rate, and if going directly to the prebooked test, tax is not required. I am cautious about it not being presented for MOT.

The brake fluid thing is what concerned me. I have always used DOT4 in Omegas and don't know about the different types. I don't know if they can be mixed or are backwards compatible, or if a newer type of synthetic fluid might even be dangerous or cause long term damage? I simply don't know - as brakes are not my area of interest - so this worries me.

The non working LPG worries me. I wonder if it's an old install and if the tank is shagged, which is what happened on Entwoods car IIRC. That said, if it's a frontend issue, and not easily solved, you could soon pop a stag kit in there, as lots of the work such as manifold drilling and pipe runs has been done. Has it been running lean, with poorly running LPG, and possible burnt a valve slightly, or caused increased cylinder wear, causing the misfire? (Remember misfires show easier on LPG than petrol, so running on petrol may mask the problem, not eliminate it). As such it may be a problem with the engine as opposed to just the LPG system?

Ultimately it's a second hand car, and I am a firm believer with cars of this age that you pay your money and take your chance with no comebacks - especially if it's sold unseen.

To sum up, I think it's quite a gamble. For some perspective, if it were not a manual, I think it'd be a dead horse being flogged with the issues and lack of MOT.
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Re: This might be of interest, but it won't go cheap...
« Reply #43 on: 20 January 2017, 17:57:10 »

They seem happy enough on Dot5.

The LPG side of things shouldn't be a bother as tanks are fixed life parts and the rest of the system is serviceable... Actually changing the system for a known quantity such as the Stag 300+ would be nice and straightforward as all the plumbing should be reusable, with minimal fettling and wiring.

I suspect that the auction will top a grand without breaking a sweat :-\
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Re: This might be of interest, but it won't go cheap...
« Reply #44 on: 20 January 2017, 20:48:16 »

"This car has the benefit of a Tartarini Etagas dual-fuel conversion"

I have one of those LPG systems and I am not sure its really a benefit  :D
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