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« Reply #16 on: 02 June 2008, 23:00:04 »
id want gold platted ones for that price
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Re: Wishbones.
« Reply #17 on: 13 June 2008, 14:51:46 »
Grabbed a pair of E34 BMW bushes off evilBay today. For twenty quid it's worth a gamble to see if these fit properly and if there's any noticeable improvement.

Not sure of origin or quality yet, but can't be any worse than knackered Boge type.

I've decided to change just the bushes and touch nothing else (except for resetting the toe-in) so I can benchmark any differences.

I'll take some pics along the way.

Quietly optimistic for now...   :)
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« Reply #18 on: 13 June 2008, 15:03:03 »
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Silly price!!!

Agreed.. :(


ps : here I paid 285 £ (total)  for the originals 3 years ago..But next time I'll try cheap solution..
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Re: Wishbones.
« Reply #19 on: 13 June 2008, 15:11:03 »
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Grabbed a pair of E34 BMW bushes off evilBay today. For twenty quid it's worth a gamble to see if these fit properly and if there's any noticeable improvement.

Not sure of origin or quality yet, but can't be any worse than knackered Boge type.

I've decided to change just the bushes and touch nothing else (except for resetting the toe-in) so I can benchmark any differences.

I'll take some pics along the way.

Quietly optimistic for now...   :)

Looking forward to reading your findings.   :y
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Re: Wishbones.
« Reply #20 on: 13 June 2008, 15:45:58 »
The problem with the BMW poly bushes is they are designed to be over-length and when the centre bolt is tightened this causes the end cap washers to compress the bush making it a tight fit in the outer sleeve.....if you want a stiffer bush you just make a longer one and compress it more.
On the Omega the bush has to be a fixed length because it fits into a defined gap in the front subframe, there is no way that I can see of compressing a poly bush to get it into the gap.
The ones we found in the states were a moulded poly bush and would fit but I cant get a reply from the makers.

BMW M5 and 750iL bushes will fit (mentioned on posts from someone in Taiwan or HK) BUT......the centre hole is not concentric with the outer diameter, this changes the front geometry too much. I tried them for 12 months and they really sharpened up the steering response but at the expense of a pair of tyres.
BMW E34 bushes also fit but these are the same as the latest genuine Vx bushes. (note I think some pattern wishbones use the earlier Vx bush which is softer).
If we find a source of better bushes we will post on here, may even be able to sell them through the shop or offer a re-bushing service.
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Re: Wishbones.
« Reply #21 on: 13 June 2008, 15:48:53 »
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Grabbed a pair of E34 BMW bushes off evilBay today. For twenty quid it's worth a gamble to see if these fit properly and if there's any noticeable improvement.

Not sure of origin or quality yet, but can't be any worse than knackered Boge type.

I've decided to change just the bushes and touch nothing else (except for resetting the toe-in) so I can benchmark any differences.

I'll take some pics along the way.

Quietly optimistic for now...   :)

You need to get camber checked and set to 1deg 20 min.
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Re: Wishbones.
« Reply #22 on: 13 June 2008, 15:56:38 »
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There not as good ax VX wishbones though.....

In all honesty, mine will get rebushed with genuine or better parts.

Talking of bushes, are there any companies out there that do bushes similar to the link below for the Omega.

If they are available are they any good.  if they are not available would it be worth approaching a manufacturer to make them. (That is of course if they are worth having.)

http://www.performance-tuning.co.uk/powerflex_polyurethane_bushes.htm
You could go down the DIY route as Razzo did and make up your own polyurethene bushes, they are a fantastic improvement to the cars performance, he is well pleased  :y :y :y
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Re: Wishbones.
« Reply #23 on: 13 June 2008, 16:07:18 »
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=270241076146&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=017
I'm awaiting these. They'll have to do for now.

Were they aftermarket one or Vx ?
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« Reply #24 on: 13 June 2008, 17:33:07 »
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I know a man with a home made press and the set of drifts required to change the wishbone bushes... ::)

Carefull you don't bend the arm when you press them though. I had to make rings to support the under side of my Senator's wishbone when I did the bushes. They're only pressed & spot welded.
I know you're no numpty but I just want to fore warn you.  :y   :y :y


I have a set of the official tools  :y

As for the BMW alternatives, we (myself and Matchless) obtained a set of the M5 bushes last year from Eurocarparts (rip off) and the dimensions are the same but, the centre hole was off set!

As for the Meyle ones, I have also seen these but not tried any yet as there are no easy to contact Uk distibutors.  :-[

If you could get the drawings (dimensions) for the powerflex bushes it would be interesting.

There was also a US outfit making am ideal poly bush but, we never get an answer from them

Jason at  www.allgermanparts .com can get Meyle bushes
quoted about £5.00 +vat for one of the Omega bushes. [614 035 0010]
he is in Leeds 0113 277 5245
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Re: Wishbones.
« Reply #25 on: 13 June 2008, 23:08:36 »
Are Myrle bushes for wishbones any good?
If the price is right?
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« Reply #26 on: 13 June 2008, 23:30:07 »
I've read with interest. My P&J's covered 101k so would the old ones be original? Whatever they are & however long they last, the car feels miles better for them & the mintex front dics & pads (£76 delivered) so will have to do for now. 8-)
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« Reply #27 on: 14 June 2008, 19:05:56 »
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Are Myrle bushes for wishbones any good?
If the price is right?

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Re: Wishbones.
« Reply #28 on: 14 June 2008, 19:13:24 »
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Are Myrle bushes for wishbones any good?
If the price is right?

They are supposed to be very good but, they do a stronger bush for the M5 which will fit the front bush position on the MIG....
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« Reply #29 on: 14 June 2008, 21:10:39 »
I like a strong bush. :D
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