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Re: Mercedes S500 Ongoing "Project Upgrade"
« Reply #30 on: 14 April 2025, 23:52:23 »

Really interesting thread, thank you  :y

On a more mundane note,.what do you get fuel economy wise from the old girl?


23ish as an rough average. 80 litre tank starts complaining it's thirsty around the 380/390 mark. But have had 450 out of a tank. It's an easy cruiser, about 1,800 rpm at 75mph so is never really trying unless you get on it... Then it will change into third at 80. Which is a pretty efficient way of dispatching the eeejits >:D

All in all it's not significantly different from a 3.2 Omega Auto in fuel terms.
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Re: Mercedes S500 Ongoing "Project Upgrade"
« Reply #31 on: 15 April 2025, 09:57:33 »

That really isn't too bad at all!

Not sure I could make it work for my 25-30,000 miles p.a. but what a thing!

On a separate note I 100% get the point of the tow bar. I had one on (I think) every saloon I ever had. I fount that and a rood rack made them really practical as an only car and meant if I had cr@p to take to the tip it didn't dirty up the inside of the car like it used to when I had estates.

If you do ever use it for the Rib, please post photos as that's probably just about the coolest towing combination I could think of  8)
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Re: Mercedes S500 Ongoing "Project Upgrade"
« Reply #32 on: 15 April 2025, 10:24:00 »

Wots a Rib ?  ???
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Re: Mercedes S500 Ongoing "Project Upgrade"
« Reply #33 on: 15 April 2025, 10:39:52 »

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Re: Mercedes S500 Ongoing "Project Upgrade"
« Reply #34 on: 15 April 2025, 11:28:02 »

Very popular with Houthi terrorists and illegal channel crossers.
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Re: Mercedes S500 Ongoing "Project Upgrade"
« Reply #35 on: 15 April 2025, 11:37:28 »

Very popular with Houthi terrorists and illegal channel crossers.
It's for towing them back >:D
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Re: Mercedes S500 Ongoing "Project Upgrade"
« Reply #36 on: 15 April 2025, 13:27:19 »

I suspect that S Class owners fall into the same camps as Jag XJ owners...
I've had a head start on you, by a few years, so slowly bringing them around.

That said, for my model (X351), they all came pretty well equipped, so not that much factory type upgrades available.

Trouble with the "box ticking" reprogramming in JLR land is the poor descriptions of said boxes, and the interrelationships between them, and this is where the info on forums becomes priceless.  Often its a case of several boxes to enable one thing, and reconfiguring seemingly unrelated bits.
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Re: Mercedes S500 Ongoing "Project Upgrade"
« Reply #37 on: 15 April 2025, 14:57:17 »

Wots a Rib ?  ???
Holds ya chest together.  ;)
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Re: Mercedes S500 Ongoing "Project Upgrade"
« Reply #38 on: 15 April 2025, 18:07:00 »

 ;D :y
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Re: Mercedes S500 Ongoing "Project Upgrade"
« Reply #39 on: 15 April 2025, 18:37:03 »

I suspect that S Class owners fall into the same camps as Jag XJ owners...
I've had a head start on you, by a few years, so slowly bringing them around.

That said, for my model (X351), they all came pretty well equipped, so not that much factory type upgrades available.

Trouble with the "box ticking" reprogramming in JLR land is the poor descriptions of said boxes, and the interrelationships between them, and this is where the info on forums becomes priceless.  Often its a case of several boxes to enable one thing, and reconfiguring seemingly unrelated bits.
The American and European owners seem to be a bit more hands on generally speaking.

Most of the programming on the car seems to be fitting everything and telling the Central Gate Way what the car has fitted. Then when a button is pressed on say, the rear passenger door, the Canbus passes the message to the component/relevant ECU to do xyz.

Having a bit of an issue with the Boot Closing functionality but suspect that it's partly a fluid issue and also that for some reason the module is VIN coded so registers a fault as a result. May just have to bite the bullet and buy a new module for that...
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Re: Mercedes S500 Ongoing "Project Upgrade"
« Reply #40 on: 15 April 2025, 20:47:47 »

JLR products have a Car Configuration File (CCF) that is uploaded to the CJB (one of the ECUs), everything else is CAN, though sometimes other ECU firmwares are required to be updated to understand the function.  The issue is the CCF isn't documented publicly, and info is hard to find beyond feature ABC needs abc, edf, xyz blah blah flags setting...

Soe sites have a fair amount for XF's, particularly older models like X250, but limited info for the last XJ or even the XE/X760.  I'm sure slowly the info will become more available.


Not that I need much on mine, as said, the X351 Portfolios came pretty fully stacked.  I think the only options mine is missing is Rear Seat Entertainment (only an option on LWB, but retrofittable if I had any interest in doing so) and Adaptive Cruise (Distronic is Mercs daft naming) which the info is well known how to edit the CCF :y, only it doesn't interest me, though its easy enough to fit, and the parts should be doable for around £100 from scrappers.


A feature I would REALLY like on the Jag - both of 'em - is a clock that can adjust itself. Every other bloody car has been able to since the 1980s.  No idea what JLR were smoking when they suffered CBA to implement something so simple.
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Re: Mercedes S500 Ongoing "Project Upgrade"
« Reply #41 on: 15 April 2025, 21:24:03 »

A feature I would REALLY like on the Jag - both of 'em - is a clock that can adjust itself. Every other bloody car has been able to since the 1980s.  No idea what JLR were smoking when they suffered CBA to implement something so simple.

.. a clock that kept decent time and didn't lose a few minutes every month or so would be a start.

.. and one that updated on the display when you're early for a meeting and parked up outside the chip shop with the radio on instead of just freezing until you're late... >:D

Still, the XE will be nice when the firmware's finished. ::)
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Re: Mercedes S500 Ongoing "Project Upgrade"
« Reply #42 on: 16 April 2025, 09:06:38 »

A feature I would REALLY like on the Jag - both of 'em - is a clock that can adjust itself. Every other bloody car has been able to since the 1980s.  No idea what JLR were smoking when they suffered CBA to implement something so simple.

Volvo V70 is the same. Unbelievable.
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Re: Mercedes S500 Ongoing "Project Upgrade"
« Reply #43 on: 16 April 2025, 11:31:39 »

Aston Martin is probably the same. ;D

The S Class doesn't like it when you change the date, but it will keep whatever time you set it to.
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Re: Mercedes S500 Ongoing "Project Upgrade"
« Reply #44 on: 16 April 2025, 11:36:43 »

I suspect that S Class owners fall into the same camps as Jag XJ owners...
I've had a head start on you, by a few years, so slowly bringing them around.

That said, for my model (X351), they all came pretty well equipped, so not that much factory type upgrades available.

Trouble with the "box ticking" reprogramming in JLR land is the poor descriptions of said boxes, and the interrelationships between them, and this is where the info on forums becomes priceless.  Often its a case of several boxes to enable one thing, and reconfiguring seemingly unrelated bits.

I might have some CCF info that may be useful if needed
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