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Re: ADAS and ISA on newer cars.
« Reply #15 on: 08 August 2025, 16:07:21 »

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Others are downright dangerous and cannot be disabled usually - emergency braking type technologies, and it seems VAG group cars seem to be particularly sensitive to imagining it's seen something close and slamming on the anchors.
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Tesla are also well documented for issues of ‘Phantom Braking’ as they call it. This again refers to the vehicle sensors seeing shadows and mistaking them for obstacles and slamming on the brakes.  :y
And one day - and I'm sure its already happened - somebody is going to pile into the back of the traffic in front, due to some stupid car at the front slamming full emergency anchors on.  If not the car immediately behind, maybe a few cars back as it all bunches up in such scenarios.


If people can't be trusted to drive, make them relearn or give up. Not add imperfect shite to the car that causes a new set of safety issues.
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Re: ADAS and ISA on newer cars.
« Reply #16 on: 08 August 2025, 16:08:19 »

Just fancy a newer car with better headlights.
With my 1980s hat on, isn't it better to fit some 90/130W bulbs and some spots ;D
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Re: ADAS and ISA on newer cars.
« Reply #17 on: 08 August 2025, 17:32:52 »

Just fancy a newer car with better headlights.
With my 1980s hat on, isn't it better to fit some 90/130W bulbs and some spots ;D
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The lights on Swmbos Toyota are fantastic never had any car before with such good lights & the screenwashers  are amazing puts the Range Rover to shame with its pathetic amount of spray, had a long run out in it the other day and the average mileage equated to 136 MPG , fantastic little runabout.
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Re: ADAS and ISA on newer cars.
« Reply #18 on: 08 August 2025, 18:55:17 »

New car lights always seem better because the reflectors haven't had time to degrade.

And just because headlights on other cars seem brighter, they might not actually be any good for driving with... It's as much about being seen as being able to see. It's also quite clever marketing wank as it makes people think their perfectly good lights are inadequate when compared to something that looks super bright on a newer car. Think Peugeot headlights in the late '90s when they switched to clear lenses.

Xenon lights have been readily available from 1996.

Led lights look shiny but they're not very effective in my experience unless you measure light performance by how much it dazzles oncoming traffic  :-X

I would suggest anything with active curve xenons over LED. Change the bulbs for quality non chinesium ones sourced from somewhere reliable.

Consider also that if you're often carrying a load on long journeys then self levelling suspension is a must. This not only improves headlight performance by keeping the car level, it also makes the suspension last longer. The Golf platform is particularly bad in this regard as the estate variations have the same suspension as the 3 door cars so any weight will see the headlights reflecting off the sky.
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Re: ADAS and ISA on newer cars.
« Reply #19 on: 08 August 2025, 19:19:22 »

The headlights on my low spec grandland are not a patch on the wife's higher spec model. Hers are LED and light the road up like daylight.
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Re: ADAS and ISA on newer cars.
« Reply #20 on: 08 August 2025, 20:28:17 »

Change the bulbs for quality non chinesium ones sourced from somewhere reliable.
Xenon bulbs also degrade with age. As do LED and filament, but to a lesser extent.

So Rangie, if your 20yr one RRS has original bulbs, consider changing :y
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« Reply #21 on: 08 August 2025, 20:57:45 »

When we chose bi xenon Golfestate, I thought great. The reality is even just two up,nothing in boot, the lights are rubbish. Born out by Mk7; golf forum. Our late hundred year old Vitara with £7 bulb upgrades was far superior. The sharp bend low speed fog light on is a nice feature.

I have got to say DCC suspension is on our shopping list. We had it on our mk7 golf we bought during our extended stay in uk last year. Best of both worlds. Sport mode for pressing on and eco for all the wretched road surfaces
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Re: ADAS and ISA on newer cars.
« Reply #22 on: 08 August 2025, 20:59:08 »

Change the bulbs for quality non chinesium ones sourced from somewhere reliable.
Xenon bulbs also degrade with age. As do LED and filament, but to a lesser extent.

So Rangie, if your 20yr one RRS has original bulbs, consider changing :y
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Absolutely no problem with the Range Rover lights they're fine , just the screenwashers are crap.
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Re: ADAS and ISA on newer cars.
« Reply #23 on: 08 August 2025, 23:49:03 »

When we chose bi xenon Golfestate, I thought great. The reality is even just two up,nothing in boot, the lights are rubbish. Born out by Mk7; golf forum. Our late hundred year old Vitara with £7 bulb upgrades was far superior. The sharp bend low speed fog light on is a nice feature.

I have got to say DCC suspension is on our shopping list. We had it on our mk7 golf we bought during our extended stay in uk last year. Best of both worlds. Sport mode for pressing on and eco for all the wretched road surfaces
DCC is not self levelling. Also, if Golf bi xenons are rubbish, the answer is much clearer. Don't buy a Golf. Notwithstanding there are much better cars out there.

For example, the Vectra C facelift headlights were rubbish because of their design. The bulb position relative to the bumper meant the shadow from the bumper blocked out the road surface ahead of the car. Not even the £1,000 AFL xenon option could overcome it.
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Re: ADAS and ISA on newer cars.
« Reply #24 on: 09 August 2025, 16:51:09 »

I really dislike all this 'nanny knows best' boll*ocks.

Anything I can switch off I do switch off.

Lane assist is dangerous and drags the cars all over the place. Front collision warning often picks up phantom objects and slams on the brakes for no reason.

Yet another reason to buy an old classic. :y
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« Reply #25 on: 09 August 2025, 16:55:49 »

Also, I never use cruise control, especially the adaptive version as fitted to the milk float.

Matrix LED's are excellent though.
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Re: ADAS and ISA on newer cars.
« Reply #26 on: 09 August 2025, 18:27:00 »

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Lane assist is dangerous and drags the cars all over the place. Front collision warning often picks up phantom objects and slams on the brakes for no reason.
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Well you’ll like this then, the ADAS data that we think is unnecessary/dangerous/shite, is the data that’s being collected towards fully autonomous vehicles. It doesn’t always work as intended WITH a driver being in control, so just think of the accidents there’ll be WITHOUT driver input.  ::)

Incidentally, I’ve had several cars with full Park Pilot and I never use it. Don’t get me wrong, it will actually do a decent enough parallel and bay park but, it’s a faff and much quicker doing it yourself.
Also, it has its flaws. When bay parking, it uses its sensors to adjust and correct its position, but what it doesn’t see is those kerbed concreted diamond shapes that the likes of Tesco put between the two rows of bays. Park Pilot will more than happily climb up them.  ::) ;D
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Re: ADAS and ISA on newer cars.
« Reply #27 on: 09 August 2025, 18:36:04 »

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Matrix LED's are excellent though.

They should be, they cost around two grand each.  :o
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Re: ADAS and ISA on newer cars.
« Reply #28 on: 09 August 2025, 20:19:45 »

When we were looking to buy our present car, we looked at a private sale.  Youngish lad about 25.

Full service history. Well no it hadn’t. No mention of a great long scratch across three panels. The icing on the cake though was, “ can I see the parking in operation?”. Sure.. nice quite road, big space and it Kerbed the wheel badly. Our car has it but neither of us have ever used it. I do like rear view camera and sensors.
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Re: ADAS and ISA on newer cars.
« Reply #29 on: 09 August 2025, 20:34:39 »

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Others are downright dangerous and cannot be disabled usually - emergency braking type technologies, and it seems VAG group cars seem to be particularly sensitive to imagining it's seen something close and slamming on the anchors.
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Tesla are also well documented for issues of ‘Phantom Braking’ as they call it. This again refers to the vehicle sensors seeing shadows and mistaking them for obstacles and slamming on the brakes.  :y
And one day - and I'm sure its already happened - somebody is going to pile into the back of the traffic in front, due to some stupid car at the front slamming full emergency anchors on.  If not the car immediately behind, maybe a few cars back as it all bunches up in such scenarios.


If people can't be trusted to drive, make them relearn or give up. Not add imperfect shite to the car that causes a new set of safety issues.

You mean like this....

https://abc7news.com/post/tesla-sf-bay-bridge-crash-8-car-self-driving-video/12686428/
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