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[Vamps]

Seen it from a number of angles and sad to say there is no 'right way' to do it.

i agree this is very much a double edged sword.....

There are a number of wrong ways and stamping down on the girls is (fortunately) now being recognised as one of them. This is very much a supply and demand where the supply is virtually unlimited so you need to regulate the demand.

again the risk with hammering the girls is they are driven more and more underground, this means that just keeping a basic eye on things becomes more difficult and, heaven forbid, if we had a repeat of the ripper or that chap in Ipswich it becomes even more difficult to track because the girls are trying to keep out of the way of the law

The most effective I have seen was a 'tolerated in a controlled way' as it allowed the health and disease side to be monitored making the freelancers a much less desirable route and when run in conjunction with hammering kerb-crawlers it is very effective. This route allows you to keep the trade away from residential areas in the main.
The other advantage is that if it is allowed then it can be taxed!!

yes, having a 'tolerance area' will assist in the control of disease and makes dealing with abuse issues far easier, the issue then lies with 'where do you put these areas?'
i believe some years ago there were trials of tolerance areas in parts of northern england and scotland, the girls were encouraged to use industrial areas in order to maintain a human presence and so hopefully drive down crime, but the lorry drivers who used these areas for breaks and the local residents were up in arms as what was a quiet area on an evening had turned into a constantly busy part of town, there was also the issue of used condoms and needles all over the place as well.
The ability to enforce tax upon the girls is a good idea, but you have to think about why they are doing this? it is not to make a million, for the majority they are feeding a drug habit or they are being forced into this to feed someone else's drug habit, getting them to do an end of year self assessment is going to be a complete non starter, no doubt they would try and claim the drugs as 'business use'

Call me old fashioned but I think the whole thing is just sad.
Detached sex makes people feel empty,and what has happened to those girls to bring them to the point where they sell their bodies

a lot of it is issues i have covered above, but going back to your first statement about it being sad, yes i agree, but for many detached sex is what they want, no fuss, no risk of a bunny boiler, just pay the money and do the deed, a means to an end, and in reality a lot of society is like that these days....detached, emotionless, sad i know.

i used to work with a guy who was in his early 20, he loved spending his money on pros, like the chap Richie was on about, he would get to the week before payday and go asking people in work if they would lend him a tenner or £20, he even went up to accounts and asked for an advance on his wages, and was very direct when they asked him what he wanted it for!!! he saw nothing wrong with it  :-/ :-/

There is no right way of dealing with this, but control would be the less contentious, but its a brave government who attempts to deal with it in the UK
  

Prostitution is a way of making a quick few pounds, usually to support, not just the girls drug habit but that of her boyfriend, I have seen young women and their families ruined by the drugs that prostitution paid for. I don't have an answer, and as has been said, clamping down does just push it further underground. :-/

[Nickbat]

I remember seeing a C4 documentary about a severely disabled chap who'd never experienced intercourse. His mate took him to Amsterdam, where there was a pro who specialised in providing this service. That documentary changed my views quite profoundly. Yes, that was an extreme case, but there are men (maybe women, too) who for a variety of medical/emotional reasons are not able to indulge in the physical act. In my view, it is better that they are able to go and pay for the service, than make do without.

Its just too easy for those who have physical relationships to call others who don't/can't saddos.

If prostitution were fully legalised, it would enable the authorities to break the bond between pros and the criminal fraternity as well as ensuring health standards.

I say legalise them.    

[albitz]

What's wrong with detached sex? Never made me feel empty mate. Have you never had a w*nk or a one night stand?
    Stop being so soppy. It might suprise you to know girls use blokes for sex as well. God bless the age of equality & in case you had'nt noticed "Massage Parlours" have been legal & government approved for some time now. I don't think you're being old fashioned mate, but you speak before you think & are a little wet behind the ears.
    Prostitution is legal in the UK & why not? We pay for everything else.

I am 49 years old and far from wet behind the ears.I am speaking from personal experience.I have had my fair share of no strings sex in the past and have reached the conclusion that one night with the one you love is worth a hundred nights with people you dont really know or want to know.
And I stand by my view that woman join the sex industry mostly out of desperation-force,drugs,etc; and they are someones daughter/sister/mother.I find that quite sad.

[Vamps]

I didn't settle down till over 40 and have had a couple of relationships over the years that was purly for a night out followed by Sex on a saturday night, no strings implied or expected, an arrangment between 2 consenting adults, before the drink flowed

I think there will be others out there in similar situations, I have never paid for a prostitute, but have been paying for sex since I became an adult......

[albitz]

Not saying its wrong ,or that consenting adults should be told what they can or cant do,just saying that my experience has led me to this conclusion.

[Vamps]

Not saying its wrong ,or that consenting adults should be told what they can or cant do,just saying that my experience has led me to this conclusion.

I was just adding an alternative, not related to any thread, just that there are alternatives to prostitution, that wreck so many lives.

[albitz]

understood Mike

[amigov6]

What's wrong with detached sex? Never made me feel empty mate. Have you never had a w*nk or a one night stand?
    Stop being so soppy. It might suprise you to know girls use blokes for sex as well. God bless the age of equality & in case you had'nt noticed "Massage Parlours" have been legal & government approved for some time now. I don't think you're being old fashioned mate, but you speak before you think & are a little wet behind the ears.
    Prostitution is legal in the UK & why not? We pay for everything else.

I am 49 years old and far from wet behind the ears.I am speaking from personal experience.I have had my fair share of no strings sex in the past and have reached the conclusion that one night with the one you love is worth a hundred nights with people you dont really know or want to know.
And I stand by my view that woman join the sex industry mostly out of desperation-force,drugs,etc; and they are someones daughter/sister/mother.I find that quite sad.[/quote
   Not everyone want's a cosy loving marriage. The sex industry has come on in leaps & bounds. Where regulated, clean & legal is a different world to the one you're portraying (which is sick) These girls pay off mortgages years early, it's their choice, they know what they're doing as do their accountants.
   If you choose to be single does that mean you 're not allowed sex?

[The Barge Captain]

A nice controversial thread James.

There is a school of thought that says all men pay for sex, whether it is with a pro, or drinks for some girl in a club or a nice meal etc. out with your partner.

[Vamps]

A nice controversial thread James.

There is a school of thought that says all men pay for sex, whether it is with a pro, or drinks for some girl in a club or a nice meal etc. out with your partner.

My point exactly.......... for life......

[RobG]

What's wrong with detached sex? Never made me feel empty mate. Have you never had a w*nk or a one night stand?
    Stop being so soppy. It might suprise you to know girls use blokes for sex as well. God bless the age of equality & in case you had'nt noticed "Massage Parlours" have been legal & government approved for some time now. I don't think you're being old fashioned mate, but you speak before you think & are a little wet behind the ears.
    Prostitution is legal in the UK & why not? We pay for everything else.

I am 49 years old and far from wet behind the ears.I am speaking from personal experience.I have had my fair share of no strings sex in the past and have reached the conclusion that one night with the one you love is worth a hundred nights with people you dont really know or want to know.And I stand by my view that woman join the sex industry mostly out of desperation-force,drugs,etc; and they are someones daughter/sister/mother.I find that quite sad.[/quote
   Not everyone want's a cosy loving marriage. The sex industry has come on in leaps & bounds. Where regulated, clean & legal is a different world to the one you're portraying (which is sick) These girls pay off mortgages years early, it's their choice, they know what they're doing as do their accountants.
   If you choose to be single does that mean you 're not allowed sex?

I couldn`t agree more. Well articulated

[JamesV6CDX]

Interesting... I'm glad this thread opened up such a debate.

I know this is far too simplistic, but my views are this -

Regulated, Policed, and controlled red light districts are a GOOD thing, providing:

- the girls are doing it because the WANT to, not because they have to, have no other option, or have to fund drugs etc. Anyone forced into it through threat of violence, or need to get by, is really not good.

 - It's not done in areas (such as housing/residential areas) that will cause alarm to people who may object, but in clearly controlled areas or premises that, if necessary, are designed for purpose.

Please don't get me wrong, I have a girlfriend who I love to bits and I don't need or want to pay for it....

But I still think, given both evils, it's best to keep it in view, and regulated, than let it slip underground....

[doog]

I notice no one on this thread has "ever been with one"
which i find interesting on a thread with so much input ...


Doug

[The Barge Captain]

Maybe because to many people there is a social stigma attatched, but is is much different to going to a lap dance club?  You still pay for your "thrills"

[LJay]

A nice controversial thread James.

There is a school of thought that says all men pay for sex, whether it is with a pro, or drinks for some girl in a club or a nice meal etc. out with your partner.

Does that not apply both ways? Equal opportunities and all that?