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[TheBoy]

Viewing angles are good, response times are fine and black levels good.

My TV Sony KDL46W4500

VERY GOOD TV

178° viewing angle.....yup, that's pretty good.
4ms response time...Plasma's react in less than 1ms with ease.Black levels on any LCD will never be spot on, because of the backlight.

It's all subjective anyway, because what looks good to one may quite well look like a pile of cack to another.

Audio systems are the same. My neighbour thinks our kit is terrible, and he came to that conclusion after accepting a £100 bet that I could generate enough bass in the living room to make him physically sick.
Give him his due though, he paid up once he was feeling better and his heart had found it's natural rhythm again  

Response time is a plasma problem as well. It may be able to turn it on that quick, but the phosphur glow will have a fairly long decay time.


BTW, MDTM is also correct about the driver board, it invariably sits on the panel itself, sometimes detachable (thus available seperately), sometimes not (though everything is ultimately detachable ).

[Lazydocker]

Viewing angles are good, response times are fine and black levels good.

My TV Sony KDL46W4500

VERY GOOD TV

178° viewing angle.....yup, that's pretty good.
4ms response time...Plasma's react in less than 1ms with ease.Black levels on any LCD will never be spot on, because of the backlight.

It's all subjective anyway, because what looks good to one may quite well look like a pile of cack to another.

Audio systems are the same. My neighbour thinks our kit is terrible, and he came to that conclusion after accepting a £100 bet that I could generate enough bass in the living room to make him physically sick.
Give him his due though, he paid up once he was feeling better and his heart had found it's natural rhythm again  

Response time is a plasma problem as well. It may be able to turn it on that quick, but the phosphur glow will have a fairly long decay time.


BTW, MDTM is also correct about the driver board, it invariably sits on the panel itself, sometimes detachable (thus available seperately), sometimes not (though everything is ultimately detachable ).

Enter Sammy

[Marks DTM Calib]

Viewing angles are good, response times are fine and black levels good.

My TV Sony KDL46W4500

VERY GOOD TV

178° viewing angle.....yup, that's pretty good.
4ms response time...Plasma's react in less than 1ms with ease.
Black levels on any LCD will never be spot on, because of the backlight.

It's all subjective anyway, because what looks good to one may quite well look like a pile of cack to another.

Audio systems are the same. My neighbour thinks our kit is terrible, and he came to that conclusion after accepting a £100 bet that I could generate enough bass in the living room to make him physically sick.
Give him his due though, he paid up once he was feeling better and his heart had found it's natural rhythm again  

Real use black levels on Plasma are worse....due to the long half life of the phosphor (its stays in an emmitting state for upto 60 seconds after being struck) plus the LCD elements have come a long way to catch up.

So dont get fooled by that old cherry!

Plasmas take much longer than 1ms to get the pixels to the required state....there is a bg difference between reaction time and the point at when the pixel is stble.....again more bull from the plasma stable.

[semisheen]

The problem with plasma it its actually burning out as your watching it
It it “literally on fire” remember plasma gets soo hot you can cut through steel underwater with it the screens on early plasmas got very hot
LCD has come along way recently it doesn’t degenerate the only problem here is the strip lights (usually 1 at the top & bottom) can go oc  the drive inverters can fail too ….quite easy to fix if your in the know but not user serviceable
LED has amazing performance   very thin although the future faults will be pixels missing   LED’s are reliable but they aren’t when in their millions but im sure this will improve in time like everything else does….. Some LED displays can actually be rolled
Up like a roll of newspaper
But not in our budget at the moment (not mine anyway)

[willyboy]

Brand wise I'm a big fan of "Samsung" think they make screens for other manufactures too but having got a 20" TV which is brill & have 22 lcd wide screen monitors, when we decide its time for the big TV to go (not yet our 32" sony big box is going strong) Also one of the main things about them is the gtees they offer & they are reliable or have been for us and if you look at them in stores first make sure you tune or get salesman to set it up right they often dont they always tune in best, the ones they want shut of making some look a poor pic ,  

[Del Boy]

I like LG a lot, got an LF66 42" LCD very good TV crystal clear too. Had no problems with it at all unlike the Plasma that we had before!
LCD is the way to go.

[tunnie]

Got 2 LG LCDs in my room, fantastic monitors. both are 5ms response times, can play fast moving xbox games no worries  8-)

[crazyjoetavola]

At 16.88 pence per unit for electricty over here I'll stick with LCD

[Martin_1962]

Tunnie - your front room TV is?

MDTM - yours is?

See a pattern

[tunnie]

Tunnie - your front room TV is?

MDTM - yours is?

See a pattern

Front room is Sony Bravia, same model as yours.

[MikeDundee]

Well I think I will replace rather than repair, and replace with an LCD screen, which one not sure yet as there are loads on the market and some reasonably priced dependig on what size screen you go for.

But I will be replacing it once I refurbed the living room, as I plan to take out the built in units, maybe chase the wiring into the walls, depending on whether I can find or build a reasonable rack for all my other components

[Marks DTM Calib]

Tunnie - your front room TV is?

MDTM - yours is?

See a pattern

Front room - Samsung
Back room - Sony
Bedroom - Samsung
Kitchen - Samsung

[TheBoy]

Samsung front room
Sony CRT heap of shite - back room
Grundig - kitchen (not brilliant, but suitable for our needs)
Argos special - bedroom (really good despite its age, but analogue only)

[KillerWatt]

Plasmas tend to start show degradation after 2yrs, and pretty 'dangle berries'ed after 4.

I sincerely hope Plasma's are 'dangle berries'ed after 4 years then, because our's came with a 5 year warranty as standard (our's being a direct replacement and upgrade from an LCD that failed 3 times in 7 months).

[TheBoy]

Plasmas tend to start show degradation after 2yrs, and pretty 'dangle berries'ed after 4.

I sincerely hope Plasma's are 'dangle berries'ed after 4 years then, because our's came with a 5 year warranty as standard (our's being a direct replacement and upgrade from an LCD that failed 3 times in 7 months).

Sadly, you'll find your warranty will not cover fair wear and tear