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[Jimbob]

Ive jsut had a mail from Zen, they are discontinuing there binary news group service.


This was one of the reasons I liked them, up with good speed - 1 meg line, which is as fast as it will go, 5.5k from exchange , and reliability, and download limits (was unlimited, now 100g per month)

This is costing me just under £30 a month.

So time to look elsewhere

Linespeed - they all use the other system now, so expect will get what line can support

Cap - Want as much as possible

Newsgroups - good coverage, but if cheap enough will use easynews or someone instead.

Need VPN support, I know sky dont allow this anymore.

Also want reliability, and a static IP address.


Decisions Decisons.

Dont use news as much as I did, but wouldnt like to be without a good feed.

Do I stay, or do I go, I cant return as my current package is not available once you leave, and current offerings not as appealing.

Could have done without this  

[Jimbob]

maybe plusnet unlimited for £15, plus $9 on easynews


Looks to fit the bill

[TheBoy]

Not many offer static IP (or 8 statics in your case), so tying yourself down before you start.

Its something I look in to regularly, due to similarish requirements (only I need more IPs), though I don't use NNTP.  I just keep coming back to Zen...

[TheBoy]

Also remember, that other ISPs count upload as well as download towards your caps, so don't let that catch you out!

[TheBoy]

maybe plusnet unlimited for £15, plus $9 on easynews


Looks to fit the bill

As discussed, you may find the shaping a bit heavy.


Additionally, moving ISP will put you on a MaxDSL type product.  The older legacy products have a bit of an advantage in that they use seperate, now near empty, VPs, so you will get pretty much the stated speed all day, every day.  MaxDSL products will tend to slow down peak times due to VP and Central congestion.  Thats an over generalisation, but you get the idea.

[Jimbob]

Yup, looking round, not much matches what I have  

may just have to swallow $9 for news access and stay with Zen

trouble is they are just so reliable!
Ive used various others ISP's in other peoples houses, they all have 'higher speeds', but feel much slower  

And where I am, its a one way street, no way back to where I am, so have to be sure its the right decision.

[TheBoy]

Only you can choose - everyone's needs are slightly different.

Zen certainly appear to be the best for me at the moment, though I am lucky enough to have 2 lines (other with another ISP), so I can decide what traffic type is best suited to which line - some stuff definately runs better over the other line that syncs up at 6.9Mb (3.5km line length).

[KillerWatt]

And where I am, its a one way street, no way back to where I am, so have to be sure its the right decision.

Is your exchange unbundled?

[TheBoy]

And where I am, its a one way street, no way back to where I am, so have to be sure its the right decision.

Is your exchange unbundled?

Mine certainly is. Unable to find a decent ISP who can meet my needs though, IPStream or otherwise

[Jimbob]

And where I am, its a one way street, no way back to where I am, so have to be sure its the right decision.

Is your exchange unbundled?

yes, AOL, talktalk, 02, orange & sky

http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange/WNCSS

[TheBoy]

And where I am, its a one way street, no way back to where I am, so have to be sure its the right decision.

Is your exchange unbundled?

yes, AOL, talktalk, 02, orange & sky

http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange/WNCSS

Hmmm, none of which I think will match your requirements.

At 5.5k, I don't think the ADSL2 ones will help a great deal speed wise either   - though every line is individual.

[Jimbob]

yes, i'm right on the limit.

My old ISP demon would only let me have 512, wouldnt even try better.

Spoke to Zen, hmmm maybe, we will put a manual step on the order to try.  Fair play they did, migrated me over at 512, days later upgraded to 1 meg.  Been solid ever since.

[KillerWatt]

yes, AOL, talktalk, 02, orange & sky

http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange/WNCSS

Go with o2 then.

[Jimbob]

Stats :

ADSL Information       (ADSL Firmware Version:  E.67.2.55 )
  ATM Statistics      TX Blocks      RX Blocks      Corrected Blocks      Uncorrected Blocks
         17077777      16839952      0      3013
  ADSL Status      Mode      State      Up Speed      Down Speed      SNR Margin      Loop Att.
        T1.413      SHOWTIME      288000      1152000      17.5      59.0

[KillerWatt]

At 5.5k, I don't think the ADSL2 ones will help a great deal speed wise either   - though every line is individual.

He won't be any worse off, but he'll certainly be paying less.

As you say though, every line is individual (I get more than I should get in theory).