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[Martin_1962]

I'm pleased to be apolitical

........... apolitical Tory voter perhaps .......Zulu....

...would it surprise you to learn Opti, that I've never voted Tory?

Quite frankly Zulu..............yes it would.
I have never slavishly followed one political party .
I'am actually apolitical ....as it seems you are
When the general election comes ........I will simply shop around for the "best deal.".....in much the same way I would.....if I were to buy a washing machine.....television ......microwave......new car ....etc.... etc
Ask most people WHY they vote for political party "X".......and they will almost invariably reply............because my parents .....and grandparents......and great grandparents......always voted for party "X"....hardly enlightened thinking.

I know the of area Z77 comes from - that is why I am not surprised

[Nickbat]

Nickbat, whilst I enjoy a laugh as much as the next man, I'm beginning to think you really believe all this climate change scepticism  :-? :-?
you'll be buying a house in a flood plain next - should be alright what with the Thames Barrier........hang on a second how much did that cost and we don't even need it!!!!! this is outrageous!!!    

The Barrier was built due because the South East is slowly sinking while the North is rising...all due to isostatic rebound. Additionally, there have been in the past, occasional storm surges caused by deep cyclones tracking (unpredictably) across the Netherlands, sometimes concurrent with spring tides, hence the tragedy at Sea Palling on 31 January 1953.

You really don't know much about this subject, do you?

 

   

it was built to cope with continuing and projected sea level rises to the middle of this century but whatever works for you, if sea levels were falling and therefore damaging storm surges were less frequent the barrier wouldn't have been commissioned.  8-)


theres no arguing with you is there? they built the Thames Barrier because the south of Britain is sinking?  you know the rate its sinking at? you're worried about 1 or 2mm a year but not rising sea levels - where do you get this stuff?

"Britain is still recovering from a legacy of the last ice age, when huge sheets of ice weighed heavily on Scotland and the north of England, forcing them down into the sea. Even though the ice is long gone, those regions are still springing back up out of the sea, a process known as "isostatic rebound". But what's good news for the north is bad news for the south. Like a see-saw, as the north rises up, the south is slowly sinking."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2003/jun/12/science.research2

"In 1965 government plans were made to build a barrier following many flooding incidents in London’s history, the most recent and significant having been in 1953, when several dozen people were drowned and thousands of hectares of farmland were flooded with salt water in the area around the Thames estuary. "

http://uk.encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_781539517/thames_flood_barrier.html

1965 pre-dated the global warming scare.

You REALLY don't know much, do you? 

[Banjax]

Nickbat, whilst I enjoy a laugh as much as the next man, I'm beginning to think you really believe all this climate change scepticism  :-? :-?
you'll be buying a house in a flood plain next - should be alright what with the Thames Barrier........hang on a second how much did that cost and we don't even need it!!!!! this is outrageous!!!    

The Barrier was built due because the South East is slowly sinking while the North is rising...all due to isostatic rebound. Additionally, there have been in the past, occasional storm surges caused by deep cyclones tracking (unpredictably) across the Netherlands, sometimes concurrent with spring tides, hence the tragedy at Sea Palling on 31 January 1953.

You really don't know much about this subject, do you?

 

   

it was built to cope with continuing and projected sea level rises to the middle of this century but whatever works for you, if sea levels were falling and therefore damaging storm surges were less frequent the barrier wouldn't have been commissioned.  8-)


theres no arguing with you is there? they built the Thames Barrier because the south of Britain is sinking?  you know the rate its sinking at? you're worried about 1 or 2mm a year but not rising sea levels - where do you get this stuff?

"Britain is still recovering from a legacy of the last ice age, when huge sheets of ice weighed heavily on Scotland and the north of England, forcing them down into the sea. Even though the ice is long gone, those regions are still springing back up out of the sea, a process known as "isostatic rebound". But what's good news for the north is bad news for the south. Like a see-saw, as the north rises up, the south is slowly sinking."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2003/jun/12/science.research2

"In 1965 government plans were made to build a barrier following many flooding incidents in London’s history, the most recent and significant having been in 1953, when several dozen people were drowned and thousands of hectares of farmland were flooded with salt water in the area around the Thames estuary. "

http://uk.encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_781539517/thames_flood_barrier.html

1965 pre-dated the global warming scare.

You REALLY don't know much, do you? 

rising sea levels have been known about since we first started recording them with tide gauges back in the 1700's and still is common use today - i'll refrain from any cheapshots 

you can look at levels recorded for the last 300yrs, thats where you get the data on rising sea levels - before we even go into the whys and wherefores 



the trouble is Nickbat, you get one idea in your head and you'll pull various strands together to make it fit - sometimes you should take a breath, step back and look again - sometimes you're right sometimes you're wrong 

[Nickbat]

Nickbat, whilst I enjoy a laugh as much as the next man, I'm beginning to think you really believe all this climate change scepticism  :-? :-?
you'll be buying a house in a flood plain next - should be alright what with the Thames Barrier........hang on a second how much did that cost and we don't even need it!!!!! this is outrageous!!!    

The Barrier was built due because the South East is slowly sinking while the North is rising...all due to isostatic rebound. Additionally, there have been in the past, occasional storm surges caused by deep cyclones tracking (unpredictably) across the Netherlands, sometimes concurrent with spring tides, hence the tragedy at Sea Palling on 31 January 1953.

You really don't know much about this subject, do you?

 

   

it was built to cope with continuing and projected sea level rises to the middle of this century but whatever works for you, if sea levels were falling and therefore damaging storm surges were less frequent the barrier wouldn't have been commissioned.  8-)


theres no arguing with you is there? they built the Thames Barrier because the south of Britain is sinking?  you know the rate its sinking at? you're worried about 1 or 2mm a year but not rising sea levels - where do you get this stuff?

"Britain is still recovering from a legacy of the last ice age, when huge sheets of ice weighed heavily on Scotland and the north of England, forcing them down into the sea. Even though the ice is long gone, those regions are still springing back up out of the sea, a process known as "isostatic rebound". But what's good news for the north is bad news for the south. Like a see-saw, as the north rises up, the south is slowly sinking."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2003/jun/12/science.research2

"In 1965 government plans were made to build a barrier following many flooding incidents in London’s history, the most recent and significant having been in 1953, when several dozen people were drowned and thousands of hectares of farmland were flooded with salt water in the area around the Thames estuary. "

http://uk.encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_781539517/thames_flood_barrier.html

1965 pre-dated the global warming scare.

You REALLY don't know much, do you? 

rising sea levels have been known about since we first started recording them with tide gauges back in the 1700's and still is common use today - i'll refrain from any cheapshots 

you can look at levels recorded for the last 300yrs, thats where you get the data on rising sea levels - before we even go into the whys and wherefores 



the trouble is Nickbat, you get one idea in your head and you'll pull various strands together to make it fit - sometimes you should take a breath, step back and look again - sometimes you're right sometimes you're wrong 

You're unbelievable at times. You make a comment about the Thames Barrier, I tell you that the SE is sinking and that the Barrier was conceived before the current warming scare and you fire back with something about 300-year sea levels and telling me I'm wrong. Wrong about what?

I haven't a clue what you're on about.  :-? :-?

[Banjax]

Nickbat, whilst I enjoy a laugh as much as the next man, I'm beginning to think you really believe all this climate change scepticism  :-? :-?
you'll be buying a house in a flood plain next - should be alright what with the Thames Barrier........hang on a second how much did that cost and we don't even need it!!!!! this is outrageous!!!    

The Barrier was built due because the South East is slowly sinking while the North is rising...all due to isostatic rebound. Additionally, there have been in the past, occasional storm surges caused by deep cyclones tracking (unpredictably) across the Netherlands, sometimes concurrent with spring tides, hence the tragedy at Sea Palling on 31 January 1953.

You really don't know much about this subject, do you?

 

   

it was built to cope with continuing and projected sea level rises to the middle of this century but whatever works for you, if sea levels were falling and therefore damaging storm surges were less frequent the barrier wouldn't have been commissioned.  8-)


theres no arguing with you is there? they built the Thames Barrier because the south of Britain is sinking?  you know the rate its sinking at? you're worried about 1 or 2mm a year but not rising sea levels - where do you get this stuff?

"Britain is still recovering from a legacy of the last ice age, when huge sheets of ice weighed heavily on Scotland and the north of England, forcing them down into the sea. Even though the ice is long gone, those regions are still springing back up out of the sea, a process known as "isostatic rebound". But what's good news for the north is bad news for the south. Like a see-saw, as the north rises up, the south is slowly sinking."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2003/jun/12/science.research2

"In 1965 government plans were made to build a barrier following many flooding incidents in London’s history, the most recent and significant having been in 1953, when several dozen people were drowned and thousands of hectares of farmland were flooded with salt water in the area around the Thames estuary. "

http://uk.encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_781539517/thames_flood_barrier.html

1965 pre-dated the global warming scare.

You REALLY don't know much, do you? 

rising sea levels have been known about since we first started recording them with tide gauges back in the 1700's and still is common use today - i'll refrain from any cheapshots 

you can look at levels recorded for the last 300yrs, thats where you get the data on rising sea levels - before we even go into the whys and wherefores 



the trouble is Nickbat, you get one idea in your head and you'll pull various strands together to make it fit - sometimes you should take a breath, step back and look again - sometimes you're right sometimes you're wrong 

You're unbelievable at times. You make a comment about the Thames Barrier, I tell you that the SE is sinking and that the Barrier was conceived before the current warming scare and you fire back with something about 300-year sea levels and telling me I'm wrong. Wrong about what?

I haven't a clue what you're on about.  :-? :-?

errr....that sea levels have been recorded to be rising for 300years maybe? and 1 or 2mm of sinkage a year really wasn't why they spent millions on the barrier? maybe? 

[Nickbat]

errr....that sea levels have been recorded to be rising for 300years maybe? and 1 or 2mm of sinkage a year really wasn't why they spent millions on the barrier? maybe? 

They spent millions on the barrier because of the history of London flooding due to storm surges. The sinking of the SE meant that this situation would only get worse. It was not until the 1960s that the technology was reached whereby such a barrier could be built.

[Banjax]

errr....that sea levels have been recorded to be rising for 300years maybe? and 1 or 2mm of sinkage a year really wasn't why they spent millions on the barrier? maybe? 

They spent millions on the barrier because of the history of London flooding due to storm surges. The sinking of the SE meant that this situation would only get worse. It was not until the 1960s that the technology was reached whereby such a barrier could be built.

and storm surges are caused by cyclones forming over open seas which, have been increasing in intensity and number due to, ahem, global warming - something that was fully established well before the Thames Barrier was built.

so when does Londinium finally disappear under the waves? i can wait 

[albitz]

If Londinium dissappeared under the waves where would the rest of the UK get its money from?

[Dishevelled Den]

If Londinium dissappeared under the waves where would the rest of the UK get its money from?

Caledonian - in the poetic sense - oil  :-/

[albitz]

Cant be much left I wouldnt have thought.Didnt Banjaxx say the world would run out of oil by next week or something similar.

[Nickbat]

errr....that sea levels have been recorded to be rising for 300years maybe? and 1 or 2mm of sinkage a year really wasn't why they spent millions on the barrier? maybe? 

They spent millions on the barrier because of the history of London flooding due to storm surges. The sinking of the SE meant that this situation would only get worse. It was not until the 1960s that the technology was reached whereby such a barrier could be built.

and storm surges are caused by cyclones forming over open seas which, have been increasing in intensity and number due to, ahem, global warming - something that was fully established well before the Thames Barrier was built.

so when does Londinium finally disappear under the waves? i can wait 

Wrong again, BJ. Are you going for some kind of record? 

Tropical cyclone (TC) activity worldwide has completely and utterly collapsed during the past 2 to 3 years with TC energy levels sinking to levels not seen since the late 1970s.

http://coaps.fsu.edu/~maue/tropical/


Look at the chart!!!! Cyclones have NOT been increasing due to global warming at all. I thought everyone knew that.

[albitz]

There are none so blind as those who dont want to see Nickbat.

[Nickbat]

Latest insanity.

"Victoria University professors Brenda and Robert Vale, architects who specialise in sustainable living, say pet owners should swap cats and dogs for creatures they can eat, such as chickens or rabbits, in their provocative new book Time to Eat the Dog: The real guide to sustainable living."

When will this madness stop?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/2987848/Save-the-planet-time-to-eat-dog

[albitz]

They will soon be telling us to eat our own relatives,less people less emissions.
Nutters.

[Nickbat]

They will soon be telling us to eat our own relatives,less people less emissions.
Nutters.

  

I can see it now.

"UN suggests cannibalism as our only hope."

http://www.suckermeinontheclimatescam.com