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[Banjax]

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Maybe, but Royal Mail had 30,000 temp positions to fill. (double what they normally take on)

85,000 applied.

That just leaves 1 945 000          

True... but it still shows the amount of people wanting the jobs, 85k to 30k jobs? People want them, so sack the strikers and get them in, problem solved.

Royal mail needs to stream line awayway, if they continue Royal Mail will go the same way as Rover.

streamline - translation - less staff, poorer service but it sounds good 

[tunnie]

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Maybe, but Royal Mail had 30,000 temp positions to fill. (double what they normally take on)

85,000 applied.

That just leaves 1 945 000          

True... but it still shows the amount of people wanting the jobs, 85k to 30k jobs? People want them, so sack the strikers and get them in, problem solved.

Royal mail needs to stream line awayway, if they continue Royal Mail will go the same way as Rover.

Just imagine the country if Tunnie was prime Minister. 

Lets face it could not do any worse that what we have now 

[Andy B]

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Lets face it could not do any worse that what we have now 

How about I give you 39 pence to deliver a letter for me? I'd even go as far as 50 pence and give you a few days to do it rather than the next day. 

[tunnie]

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Lets face it could not do any worse that what we have now 

How about I give you 39 pence to deliver a letter for me? I'd even go as far as 50 pence and give you a few days to do it rather than the next day. 

I'd rather not, its about £249.50 less than i usually earn in a day 

[Andy B]

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I'd rather not, its about £249.50 less than i usually earn in a day 

But what you earn a day wasn't the issue ......  :-? Most of us could give a monkey's left ......
You said we couldn't get worse than what we have ...... Royal Mail charge you 39p for a letter whether it's going next door or to the little cottage at the end of the high street in Lerwick etc I think that's pretty good. Things could e better I'm sure .... I don't nor have ever worked for RM ..... but what we have at the moment doesn't seem bad to me.

[tunnie]

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I'd rather not, its about £249.50 less than i usually earn in a day 

But what you earn a day wasn't the issue ......  :-? Most of us could give a monkey's left ......
You said we couldn't get worse than what we have ...... Royal Mail charge you 39p for a letter whether it's going next door or to the little cottage at the end of the high street in Lerwick etc I think that's pretty good. Things could e better I'm sure .... I don't nor have ever worked for RM ..... but what we have at the moment doesn't seem bad to me.

Nothing wrong with the prices, never said there was an issue with them?

The service is fine, never had a problem.

The issue is with the workers stiking, its not going to get them anyware. Made my position clear if i was in charge.

It looks like the goverment backs RM too, changes need to be made, they can't continue the way they are.

[TheBoy]

Sure, RM has issues.

BUT the union is abysmally bad, and part of the problem (same union used to cover BT non management).  That useless pondlife Mandleson is also a major issue there - he is a corrupt, arrogant, braindead pillock.


RM employees need to reconise that their numbers will shrink - that will happen no matter what.  RM mgmt need to realise that american style bully-boy tactics won't work in UK (or Europe) as their are laws in place to prevent them going through with ultimate threats, so pissing off employees for no gain is not constructive.

[Kevin Wood]

The service is fine, never had a problem.

As soon as we get a numerate postman it will be great here, too. Letter can come from as far as lerwick, timbucktoo, etc. to Four Marks and arrives promptly, in perfect condition, on the doormat of a randomly chosen house in the neighbourhood.

Kevin

[Banjax]

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I'd rather not, its about £249.50 less than i usually earn in a day 

But what you earn a day wasn't the issue ......  :-? Most of us could give a monkey's left ......
You said we couldn't get worse than what we have ...... Royal Mail charge you 39p for a letter whether it's going next door or to the little cottage at the end of the high street in Lerwick etc I think that's pretty good. Things could e better I'm sure .... I don't nor have ever worked for RM ..... but what we have at the moment doesn't seem bad to me.

Nothing wrong with the prices, never said there was an issue with them?

The service is fine, never had a problem.

The issue is with the workers stiking, its not going to get them anyware. Made my position clear if i was in charge.

It looks like the goverment backs RM too, changes need to be made, they can't continue the way they are.

isn't that why they're striking? to halt the degradation of the service? seems to me you take the union bad/management good position as default without looking at what they're striking for - actually we all lose if royal mail push through the changes 

[Dishevelled Den]

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I'd rather not, its about £249.50 less than i usually earn in a day 

But what you earn a day wasn't the issue ......  :-? Most of us could give a monkey's left ......
You said we couldn't get worse than what we have ...... Royal Mail charge you 39p for a letter whether it's going next door or to the little cottage at the end of the high street in Lerwick etc I think that's pretty good. Things could e better I'm sure .... I don't nor have ever worked for RM ..... but what we have at the moment doesn't seem bad to me.[/quote]



...on balance Andy, those are quite justified comments 

[Dishevelled Den]

Sure, RM has issues.

BUT the union is abysmally bad, and part of the problem (same union used to cover BT non management).  That useless pondlife Mandleson is also a major issue there - he is a corrupt, arrogant, braindead pillock.


RM employees need to reconise that their numbers will shrink - that will happen no matter what.  RM mgmt need to realise that american style bully-boy tactics won't work in UK (or Europe) as their are laws in place to prevent them going through with ultimate threats, so pissing off employees for no gain is not constructive.[/quote]




....agreed for the most part, a healthy dose of realism is necessary all round.

[Dishevelled Den]

cost of me sending a card to the Highlands is 39p

checked with tnt - cheapest was £18


god help us if we lose the Royal Mail - it's a public service that should be heavily subsidised.

...a splendid thread bj 8-)

[Banjax]

cost of me sending a card to the Highlands is 39p

checked with tnt - cheapest was £18


god help us if we lose the Royal Mail - it's a public service that should be heavily subsidised.

...a splendid thread bj 8-)

OK who are you and what have you done with Zulu? 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I do not like the word "strike"...........it implies that most people on"strike"...............are a bunch of lazy.......selfish......greedy.....breakless ......left wing trouble makers......NOT TRUE.
I much prefer the expression "withdrawl of labour"....
EVERYBODY DOES/OR SHOULD HAVE .......the right to withdraw their labour if they feel that they are being unfairly treated....by their employers.
It is action usually taken as a last resort......most people would rather not withdraw their labour.....but sometimes .....it is necessary .....sadly. :-/ :-/ :-/

[Andy B]

I do not like the word "strike"...........it implies that most people on"strike"...............are a bunch of lazy.......selfish......greedy.....breakless ......left wing trouble makers......NOT TRUE.
I much prefer the expression "withdrawl of labour"....
EVERYBODY DOES/OR SHOULD HAVE .......the right to withdraw their labour if they feel that they are being unfairly treated....by their employers.
It is action usually taken as a last resort......most people would rather not withdraw their labour.....but sometimes .....it is necessary .....sadly. :-/ :-/ :-/

Here here!!!!





or is that hear hear!!  :-/ :-/