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[Marks DTM Calib]

A little picture of a certain loco whch many wanted to save from last September.



So, if you know of any good welders....

[tunnie]

i do need something to get started on 

[Debs.]

Oh my goodness!

I hope you managed to salvage all the components you needed for yours, Mark? :-/

[Marks DTM Calib]

Yes, that shot does not have the cabs in it (they are aluminium so get squirreled away very quickly!) or the donk which we were removing cams and pumps from.

Quite a well known loco that one:

http://www.wnxxforum.com/interactive/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=5387&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=47145

And a picture such as that in a scrap yard is a rare one to...

[Elite Pete]

Give it Jaime to weld, he must be quite good at it by now

[alunonhisown]

Way to many Class 37's gone this way.
Oh I love the Class 37, like my men, big and butch, like the Deltic I suppose, but for some reason the Deltic don't do it for me.

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/gb/diesel/37/37_7/Railfreight+TR/37702.jpg
Seen that loco a few times BEFORE it was exported to Spain.
It was one of two that went the same day, and the other one crashed  after a few days.
Hope 37702 is still going strong.
Memories.

[Marks DTM Calib]

Lol....37's are big, but strong there not....a little under powered in reality.

The 'Neds' (e.g. Mr Imber  ) like them because of the sound....which is because the exhaust silencer consists of 2 turbos and some pipe!

I do a little work on 37009 which we are restoring.

[alunonhisown]

I wanna be part of that.
I am in love with the 37, better than any bloke.
Cwmbargoed DP is open again now, but no 37's going there, all silly 66's I think, for all I know, they are probably more powerful than the 37.
Alll the one's to Cwmbargoed DP are liveried in EWS. UNstriking red and yellow stripes.

http://www.freefoto.com/images/23/65/23_65_13---EWS-Class-66_web.jpg

[Seth]

This area was awash with 37s on the coal traffic.

And until a few years back, we had a few stabled at Rhymney hauling 4-coach rakes on peak-hour workings. I even had two top'n'tailed 37s on the Treherbert line once, due to a Pacer/Sprinter shortage - pain in the neck though on intensive Valleys services.

Bit of a '47' bloke meself though

[Marks DTM Calib]

This area was awash with 37s on the coal traffic.

And until a few years back, we had a few stabled at Rhymney hauling 4-coach rakes on peak-hour workings. I even had two top'n'tailed 37s on the Treherbert line once, due to a Pacer/Sprinter shortage - pain in the neck though on intensive Valleys services.

Bit of a '47' bloke meself though

Me to.....

Yes, the valleys had plenty of 37's!

[Marks DTM Calib]

I wanna be part of that.
I am in love with the 37, better than any bloke.
Cwmbargoed DP is open again now, but no 37's going there, all silly 66's I think, for all I know, they are probably more powerful than the 37.Alll the one's to Cwmbargoed DP are liveried in EWS. UNstriking red and yellow stripes.

http://www.freefoto.com/images/23/65/23_65_13---EWS-Class-66_web.jpg

Hell yes!

Much more....3000+bhp....

As a power guide...

D2000-D2999 Shunters Under 300 hp
D3000-D4999 Shunters 300 to 799 hp (e.g. 08 shunter)
D8000-D8999 Type 1 800 to 1000 hp (e.g class 15)
D5000-D6499 Type 2 1001 to 1499 hp (e.g class 20 and 25)
D6500-D7999 Type 3 1500 to 1999 hp (e.g. class 37 and 31)
D1-D1999 Type 4 2000 to 2999 hp (e.g. class 47 or 43 otherwise known as a HST 125)
D9000-D9999 Type 5 Over 3000 hp (e.g.52 aka Western or 55 aka deltic...note that both of these requried 2 engines to get that level of bhp....)

Be a little careful with the above groupings as there are some exception e.g. a class 50 only has the power of a type 4.....

A class 37 is around 1750bhp......a 66 is 3300bhp....and more efficient at getting this to the rail.....but they sound naff as they have good silencers and weird compressors (directly engine driven)....zing, zing, zing....

So deltics and westerns being type 5's were super powerful (although lacked reliability at times!)

[Seth]

I wanna be part of that.
I am in love with the 37, better than any bloke.
Cwmbargoed DP is open again now, but no 37's going there, all silly 66's I think, for all I know, they are probably more powerful than the 37.Alll the one's to Cwmbargoed DP are liveried in EWS. UNstriking red and yellow stripes.

http://www.freefoto.com/images/23/65/23_65_13---EWS-Class-66_web.jpg

Hell yes!

Much more....3000+bhp....

As a power guide...

D2000-D2999 Shunters Under 300 hp
D3000-D4999 Shunters 300 to 799 hp (e.g. 08 shunter)
D8000-D8999 Type 1 800 to 1000 hp (e.g class 15)
D5000-D6499 Type 2 1001 to 1499 hp (e.g class 20 and 25)
D6500-D7999 Type 3 1500 to 1999 hp (e.g. class 37 and 31)
D1-D1999 Type 4 2000 to 2999 hp (e.g. class 47 or 43 otherwise known as a HST 125)
D9000-D9999 Type 5 Over 3000 hp (e.g.52 aka Western or 55 aka deltic...note that both of these requried 2 engines to get that level of bhp....)

Be a little careful with the above groupings as there are some exception e.g. a class 50 only has the power of a type 4.....

A class 37 is around 1750bhp......a 66 is 3300bhp....and more efficient at getting this to the rail.....but they sound naff as they have good silencers and weird compressors (directly engine driven)....zing, zing, zing....

So deltics and westerns being type 5's were super powerful (although lacked reliability at times!)

Often wondered what that noise was Mark

[Seth]

There's also some FGW loco haulage on certain Taunton-Cardiff diagrams at the mo.
Have recently seen Class 60s rostered on them.

[Martin_1962]

Western - Class 52 are 2700bhp therefore a type 4

Class 50 - 2700 bhp but are rated to full power at higher speeds compared to any other type 4,  a couple were rerated to type 5 for a while 3150bhp or 3200bhp AFAIR

Deltics - excellent machines and the best type 5 in the country

Class 60 - these are British and can out pull the GM Class 66s

My favourites are 50 and Deltic, 37s are underpowered and I prefer a V16 to a V12, but 37s do clag well and they are very reliable.

47s are OK but are popular for people from the west midlands.

Best type 4s were the 3 prototypes DP2, Falcon and possibly Lion.

DP2 was in revenue service working with Deltics and I think if it wasn't for its accident would have been purchased.

It was the prototype for the 50s

Falcon, D1200, the only 53 was 31 style bogies with twin Maybach engines, uprated from the Western and electric transmission. Ended up owned by BR.

Lion was scrapped quite early and was basically the BRCW version on a 47 in stying and power unit.

Weirdest type 4 was a class 30 when rated at 2000bhp

[Lizzie_Zoom]

As you know I am a steam girl, but I will always be upset that these two prototype locos could not be saved:



No's 10000 & 10202 at Derby works 1963. 10000 was built for the LMS in 1947/48. 10202 built for the Souther Region of BR in 1950/51.  Withdrawn 1963, scrapped 1968