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[2woody]

what's wrong with team orders.

people easily forget that F1 is a contest between teams, not just drivers. It's for the team to take whatever action they see fit in order to get a most favourable result. If this favours one driver over another, then so be it.

[Chris_H]

what's wrong with team orders.

people easily forget that F1 is a contest between teams, not just drivers. It's for the team to take whatever action they see fit in order to get a most favourable result. If this favours one driver over another, then so be it.

You've rather missed the point that the FIA specifically banned it.  Your view is shared by many though, DC for one.

[2woody]

You've rather missed the point that the FIA specifically banned it.  Your view is shared by many though, DC for one.

rather too worried by negative press, methinks

[TheBoy]

I think a team should be able to play itself as it sees fit, seeing as it is 'a team'.

But, FIA made those rules (rightly or wrongly), so they should have to abiode by them.

[Terbs]

Agree with TB on abiding by rules they made.

However....if they do revert back to 'team orders', then they should scrap the individual drivers championship.
In any other sport its called 'nobbling', and those found out are usualy thrown out !!!!!!!!! And where money is involved, its usually a visit to court.
Looking at it in another way...do people bet on who will win the race............do they get their money back. I think not !!!! Therefore its 'nobbling'

[Amigo]

It does seem a tad cheeky but hardly surprising just glad i did'nt sit through it.
   Not knocking F1 fans, i used to love it myself but over the last few seasons it's become bitchier than a soap opera. I remember the 70's when motorsport was about driving...
   ....Yardley Mclaren soap on a rope!!!! 8-)

[2woody]

all that's not really true - just look a football - the manager has free reign to do what he wants with the team. He can even substitute one player for another.

it's the team that matters

[Chris_H]

all that's not really true - just look a football - the manager has free reign to do what he wants with the team. He can even substitute one player for another.

it's the team that matters

I don't think the comparison with football comes close.

If you were to give large bonuses to individual football players or man of the match, you might have something akin to the conflict that team and driver championships create in F1.

[Kevin Wood]

The issue is that team playing just doesn't work in Motorsport, IMHO.

As soon as it's no longer each driver to his own in a race to the chequered flag, much of the excitement has gone, IMHO.

I don't know what the solution is, as clearly F1 cars have to be operated by teams due to the costs involved.

Maybe there should be a driver's championship but no constructors' championship, or vice versa?

Maybe there should be no comms between driver and team during the race?

I don't recall team orders spoiling things as badly in the golden era of F1 (when I bothered to watch it). Why not?

Maybe teams should have to field a "rookie" and a more experienced driver rather than two more evenly matched drivers?

Kevin

[Pitchfork]

The issue is that team playing just doesn't work in Motorsport, IMHO.

As soon as it's no longer each driver to his own in a race to the chequered flag, much of the excitement has gone, IMHO.

I don't know what the solution is, as clearly F1 cars have to be operated by teams due to the costs involved.

Maybe there should be a driver's championship but no constructors' championship, or vice versa?

Maybe there should be no comms between driver and team during the race?

I don't recall team orders spoiling things as badly in the golden era of F1 (when I bothered to watch it). Why not?

Maybe teams should have to field a "rookie" and a more experienced driver rather than two more evenly matched drivers?

Kevin

...........or just one driver per Team?

[2woody]

team orders was very prevalent throughout the seventies and eighties.

before that, in the sixties, team managers would call in a no2 driver and give his car to a number 1 if his own had failed.

[jerry]

oh for the days of graham hill and jackie stewart.....  :-/

[zirax]

This was the icing on the cake for what was a truly horrific race. Webber was told to slow down on lap 30. By lap 37 the McLaren's were told to slow down. Then the team orders came through..... I went outside and washed the car.

If Alonso was sooo quick, how come he wasn't quick enough to overtake Massa? Yes dirty air etc etc but come on, at least try and earn your win.