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[sassanach]

interesting to note(according to the ten o clock news)that the guest house makes it "crystal"on their website that only "married" couples are welcome in their guesthouse,and they clarify what constitutes a marriage in their eyes.sting op...i think so

[tidla]

sounds like the couple are part of the SS

(serial suer)

[Gaffers]

Oh Guffer... I've just gotta post this again. Work is'nt easy!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvvMdCTA_os

You know, I may just make that the first song that comes on when I switch the car on every morning 

[PhilRich]

I have to disagree. I have kept a bit of an eye on this case through the web/papers/TV etc.
My opinion is that it was a set up organised by the "Peter Tatchell wing" of the gay community. I also believe that the Christain couple should have the right to decide that they dont have gay couples in their B&B. It is not the same as barring people for being Irish/black/brown etc. etc. There is no possible reason to have moral or religious objection to people due to their skin colour or country of origin. It is possible to have moral or religious objection to homosexuality.
I believe that the left have held a sustained campaign against Christianity in this country for a long time, and this is part of it.
Its an easy target really - Gays are now widely accepted in society at large, but "old fashioned Christians" dont accept  it so it makes it quite easy to hammer them.
To me, it seems that tolerance and diversity is a one way street.
I am still waiting for the day when these people decide to launch their attack on the muslim religion. I am somewhat bemused by the fact that they didnt start there.After all, at least some Muslim preacher teach that Homosexuals should be put to death by stoning or being thrown off a cliff. But maybe their agenda is more about attacking Christianity than it is about defending Gay rights.Or maybe Muslims fit into the left wing description of a threatened minority, and are therefore exempt from criticism ?
The fact is that there always have been and always will be people who are attracted to their own sex. But I believe it is an alternative lifestyle, no more no less. It is not imo as valid and relevant in society as the hetrosexual relationship, on which civilisation has been founded since the dawn of time.
Homophobic ? - no, Im not frightened of homosexuality, but I do find the "militant tendency" which has come to the fore in recent years, both scary and sinister.
P.S. If you google "gay only hotels" you will find a long list of them in this country. I dont see anyone bringing prosecutions against them. I rest my case.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=ie7&q=gay+only+hotels+uk&rls=com.microsoft:en-gb:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&rlz=1I7ACAW_enGB404GB404&redir_esc=&ei=VdQ1TdrfGoqKhQfXj4j_Cw

Succinctly put & well reasoned argument Albs 

[Richie London]

since i have left school i have been turned down for holidays, no male groups, turned away for digs, no builders. refused entry in clubs, wrong dress code. pubs, dont like the look of you. so rather what. who cares. same old story, weak and insensitive looking for attention yet again. everyone has the right to refuse entry to there premises no matter what  religion or colour or sexuality. i wouldnt let a couple of 2 bob faggotts in my house, especially the ones who are open and think its ok to openly show how in love they are.sickens me. if its ok for other groups  to discriminate on the grounds you dont fit into there society then its good enough for me to refuse them entry to my premises. gay clubs, womens clubs, religious houses. black police officers assocoiation,and many more, all one sided.i am now rascist,homophobic and i am against a  multicultural society, yes. i have every right to be. because thats how they are. they wont intergrate the same as i wont.

[PhilRich]

Thats a ludicrous thing to say. >:(That sentence was alluding to the fact that it wasnt uncommon 30 years ago to encounter what was reffered to "queer bashing" and the fact that the world (or this part of it) has moved on a long way since then........methinks we are trying to engage in an interesting exchange of views and opinions with a closed and brainwashed mind.
For all you know I may be Gay. I am standing up for what I believe to be the rights of a couple who happen to be Christian, although Im not a Christian. Its nothing to do with my own personal religious beliefs, or orientation. Im simply saying it because I believe it to be right.
Maybe you dont believe I should have the right to do that ?
The veiled threat ?...of "I fear you may be........." would possibly suggest so.
I would also be interested in your opinion on the fact that there are many hotels which specifically cater for Gays. Is their existence not discriminatory against hetrosexuals ?

Albs - don't want to leave this on a bad note so let me try to answer your points.

Thanks for the clarification of your meaning on militants etc. I don't equate queer bashing with the actions of these two blokes (& whichever organisation may have supported them). So I was not suggesting a return to QBing. Instead, I was saying that there is an opportunity for OOF members (who feel strongly about it) to bring a case against any gay hotels that discriminate against straight guests. See my post somewhere above (about 7.05) about the Equality Act.

Of course you have the right to your views - it was never my intention to suggest otherwise, and I'd be interested to understand what I may have written that created that impression.

 "I fear you may be ..." - OK, fair point, on reflection this is weaselly - not intended to be a veiled threat. Substitute the more assertive "I think you are being discriminatory on grounds of sexual orientation here. A person's willingness to stand up for their rights is not a function of their sexual orientation."

K
EDIT - your fourth point  - for the avoidance of doubt, IMO gay hotels which discriminate against heterosexuals are in the wrong - they have to keep up and provide the same service to all. But there's an important difference here between "discriminating against" and "catering for". If they want to "cater for", let them go ahead and do it. Just like Christian hotels, etc etc - if it's just a difference of taste and style, that's what diversity is all about. Provided it does not treat anyone unfairly.

'Straights' booking into a 'gays only' hotel? All the pillows would have bite holes in 'em surely!

[Vamps]

Having glanced around this post, think I will leave it alone....bit like global warming.....

Where did that bus thread get to?....

[tidla]

Having glanced around this post, think I will leave it alone....bit like global warming.....

Where did that bus thread get to?....

it melted.