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My new PI lowering springs
« on: 23 May 2011, 16:30:19 »

Just arrived in the post today.
Quick postage, and more importantly...shockingly cheap price.
So much so i was half expecting them to be the wrong ones.

but low and behold, they are the right ones for my car.

as found here: http://www.pi-suspension.co.uk/pi-spring-kit-sportpack-vauxhall-omega-estate-6-cylinder-b-1994-lowers-35mm-60168_p1253976.htm










might have a chance to fit them tomorrow.
Exhaust needs to be done first, and then rear doughnuts, and front wishbones.....then lowering springs, then WIM.

all the parts are just sitting in my house. But i now have the time to get on with it all.
wish me luck  ::)
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Re: My new PI lowering springs
« Reply #1 on: 23 May 2011, 16:31:41 »

Just to clear....I did NOT order them from that website....I wasnt prepared to pay that much for them lol
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Re: My new PI lowering springs
« Reply #2 on: 23 May 2011, 21:41:57 »

Very interested mate, keep us updated on how it goes and hows the ride, even better if you can put up pics of before and after to give an idea how the ride height changes!  :y :y
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Re: My new PI lowering springs
« Reply #3 on: 23 May 2011, 22:56:35 »

Are you updating the shocks  :-/
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Re: My new PI lowering springs
« Reply #4 on: 24 May 2011, 01:03:14 »

no

I have chosen not to.

Mine are in good nick for now...As and when they decide to give up the ghost i will replace.
Whole point is that they were cheap, and these are designed to work with standard shocks,

At best, I may buy some MV6 shocks (front and back) and put them on, as they would handle the slightly lower ride height better. But they would be used...at best.

Not got any more money to throw at it  now.
that's it.
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Re: My new PI lowering springs
« Reply #5 on: 24 May 2011, 08:16:21 »

[hijack]

On the subject of springs, does anybody know where you can get spring that lower 10-15mm?

I have tried google to no avail

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Re: My new PI lowering springs
« Reply #6 on: 24 May 2011, 08:23:47 »

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[hijack]

On the subject of springs, does anybody know where you can get spring that lower 10-15mm?

I have tried google to no avail

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Mv6 lowered sports chassis springs from a face lift drop 15 mill. Sadly vx only though afaik, or breakers.
Or did you mean aftermarket?
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Re: My new PI lowering springs
« Reply #7 on: 24 May 2011, 08:53:37 »

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[hijack]

On the subject of springs, does anybody know where you can get spring that lower 10-15mm?

I have tried google to no avail

[/hijack]
Mv6 lowered sports chassis springs from a face lift drop 15 mill. Sadly vx only though afaik, or breakers.
Or did you mean aftermarket?

I meant Aftermarket but if they are not available then vx will have to do.  How much are new ones? (wince)
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Re: My new PI lowering springs
« Reply #8 on: 24 May 2011, 09:33:58 »

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[hijack]

On the subject of springs, does anybody know where you can get spring that lower 10-15mm?

I have tried google to no avail

[/hijack]
Mv6 lowered sports chassis springs from a face lift drop 15 mill. Sadly vx only though afaik, or breakers.
Or did you mean aftermarket?

I meant Aftermarket but if they are not available then vx will have to do.  How much are new ones? (wince)
It's a double wince without trade club, from memory... No it's gone  ;D can't access tc web site to check either. :'(

Maybe pm andyc? Must be lowered sports chassis though. Which I think they list as "sport" for rears iirc. And should have the shocks to go with them or the stock shocks may well bottom out. 
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Re: My new PI lowering springs
« Reply #9 on: 24 May 2011, 09:37:34 »

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[hijack]

On the subject of springs, does anybody know where you can get spring that lower 10-15mm?

I have tried google to no avail

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Mv6 lowered sports chassis springs from a face lift drop 15 mill. Sadly vx only though afaik, or breakers.
Or did you mean aftermarket?

I meant Aftermarket but if they are not available then vx will have to do.  How much are new ones? (wince)
It's a double wince without trade club, from memory... No it's gone  ;D can't access tc web site to check either. :'(

Maybe pm andyc? Must be lowered sports chassis though. Which I think they list as "sport" for rears iirc. And should have the shocks to go with them or the stock shocks may well bottom out. 

So the chassis on the Elite is not suitable?  :-/

Will bilstein B4s work with the MV6 spring?
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Re: My new PI lowering springs
« Reply #10 on: 24 May 2011, 09:43:17 »

ooh most definitely yes. They are good.

Vx Lsc shocks on tc may well be cheeper though. Fronts £40 odd each ????  B4 where £220 odd a set for the car.
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Re: My new PI lowering springs
« Reply #11 on: 24 May 2011, 14:39:22 »

so then bud how are you getting on with it then?

as said before, any before and after pictures would be cool...

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Re: My new PI lowering springs
« Reply #12 on: 24 May 2011, 14:57:43 »

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ooh most definitely yes. They are good.

Vx Lsc shocks on tc may well be cheeper though. Fronts £40 odd each ????  B4 where £220 odd a set for the car.

Cheaper maybe, but are they as good as B4s?  If not I would rather get the bilsteins.
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« Reply #13 on: 24 May 2011, 16:05:18 »

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ooh most definitely yes. They are good.

Vx Lsc shocks on tc may well be cheeper though. Fronts £40 odd each ????  B4 where £220 odd a set for the car.

Cheaper maybe, but are they as good as B4s?  If not I would rather get the bilsteins.
I guess its a question of taste  ?

 I suspect b4's give a firmer ride over mv6 shocks regardless of springs.

With irmscher springs on mine it's difficult give an exact comparison to the spec you mention, some broken surfaces can be harsh not helped by 18's, however the lack of roll, quality of damping, and feel and feedback is marked.

If your looking to firm up Elite but not compromise on comfort at all then mv6 lsc is fine.


From soft down to hard, that I have tried.        ignoring stock spec for a mo ( cdx, cd, gls etc)


Elite shocks and springs.   Soft wallowy, giving rounded tyre wear profile, handling degraded quickly, very comfy if driven steady.

Mv6 lsc springs with elite shocks include sl.    Improved role less see sickness. Comfort still good

added front lsc shocks      . Firmer ride but still supple but needed rears shocks as well. Still some sway at the back. Comfort still good but improvement not quit enough so didn't bother with mv6 lsc rear shocks and went straight on to...

New Irmscher springs with b4 all round.     Marked Improvement in roll, bump steer, damping independence per corner partly due to binning sl shocks ESP at the back. Car tracks better in a straightline, holds aline better in corners, better corner speed and confidence. Far far better high speed stability. :-X Some harshness on poor surfaces approaching mildly "Crashy" ride on broken Tarmac but ok, good on good surfaces. Some "wumps" transmit to passengers a bit worse.

 18's fitted, corner speed up 10mph from 60 to 70 possibly more to come. Poor suffices harsher still. Need to be more careful breaking on potholes etc. Slight loss of acceleration. 


The firmest omega I have experienced is way softer than Audi A3 or BMW m sport ime. Crashy ride!

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Re: My new PI lowering springs
« Reply #14 on: 24 May 2011, 17:31:05 »

Fitted Rear subframe bushes today, as they need to be done. And that has made one hell of a difference already. Will get some pics of them up on different thread.

Will be doing springs from 9am tomorrow morning.
So will let you know tomorrow afternoon what they are like.

Tempted as i am to do shocks as well, i just cant afford it.
So any compromise on comfort will have to be lived with for now.

Been offered 2 new mv6 facelift rear shocks for £50 delivered. So maybe i'll get those......eventually
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