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Help: (Urgent) Cambelt
« on: 10 December 2007, 19:01:33 »
Hi

Been doing the cambelt. Locked everthing down and got the old belt off OK. The new belt was very hard to get on - took a couple of hours. New belt is now on but the cam locking pins are stuck solid. What is the correct way to get them free? Should I turn the crankshaf slightly? I have tried adjusting the tensioners but no joy. They are way off the alignment shown on the DVD but if I set them as shown I get a lot of slack on the belt.

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Re: Help: (Urgent) Cambelt
« Reply #1 on: 10 December 2007, 19:33:38 »
Watch the dvd carefully..........
I think that you have a tensioner to adjust the cams slightly and another lower tensioner to take up the belt slack, you have to toy between the two to get it just right.
Some more knowledgeable people will be alog soon to help ;)
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Re: Help: (Urgent) Cambelt
« Reply #2 on: 10 December 2007, 19:46:01 »
Just to confirm, are BOTH camlocks stuck (ie both banks)?
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Re: Help: (Urgent) Cambelt
« Reply #3 on: 10 December 2007, 20:10:15 »
Yes, both camlocks were stuck, but now there is an update...

I removed the belt to start again. Tapped the camlocks free. Then my dad suggested swapping the camlocks because my colours were the oppsite of the video (they would not fit the other way). Anyway the No.1 cam moved. I managed to move it back after several attemps, but it is not aligned right, and I decided to stop digging :-[

Can anyone fix this? I am in Chesterfield and would be happy to pay labour and travel costs. My dad is going home tomorrow thank god! If anyone can fix it but has to work, I will even be happy to pay what they would otherwise get if they are able to take the day off.

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Re: Help: (Urgent) Cambelt
« Reply #4 on: 10 December 2007, 21:28:43 »
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Yes, both camlocks were stuck, but now there is an update...

I removed the belt to start again. Tapped the camlocks free. Then my dad suggested swapping the camlocks because my colours were the oppsite of the video (they would not fit the other way). Anyway the No.1 cam moved. I managed to move it back after several attemps, but it is not aligned right, and I decided to stop digging :-[

Can anyone fix this? I am in Chesterfield and would be happy to pay labour and travel costs. My dad is going home tomorrow thank god! If anyone can fix it but has to work, I will even be happy to pay what they would otherwise get if they are able to take the day off.

Thanks
Chris

Firstly, don't panic.

You can sort this yourself. Get the cams all locked in right place, crank at TDC, and start again slowly.

If you really are stuck, then I can possibly help, but not for at least a week and a bit.


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Re: Help: (Urgent) Cambelt
« Reply #5 on: 10 December 2007, 21:31:47 »
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Yes, both camlocks were stuck, but now there is an update...

I removed the belt to start again. Tapped the camlocks free. Then my dad suggested swapping the camlocks because my colours were the oppsite of the video (they would not fit the other way). Anyway the No.1 cam moved. I managed to move it back after several attemps, but it is not aligned right, and I decided to stop digging :-[

Can anyone fix this? I am in Chesterfield and would be happy to pay labour and travel costs. My dad is going home tomorrow thank god! If anyone can fix it but has to work, I will even be happy to pay what they would otherwise get if they are able to take the day off.

Thanks
Chris

Firstly, don't panic.

You can sort this yourself. Get the cams all locked in right place, crank at TDC, and start again slowly.

If you really are stuck, then I can possibly help, but not for at least a week and a bit.


Thanks, I'll have a go in the morning and let you know how it goes.

Cheers
Chris
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Re: Help: (Urgent) Cambelt
« Reply #6 on: 10 December 2007, 21:34:05 »
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Yes, both camlocks were stuck, but now there is an update...

I removed the belt to start again. Tapped the camlocks free. Then my dad suggested swapping the camlocks because my colours were the oppsite of the video (they would not fit the other way). Anyway the No.1 cam moved. I managed to move it back after several attemps, but it is not aligned right, and I decided to stop digging :-[

Can anyone fix this? I am in Chesterfield and would be happy to pay labour and travel costs. My dad is going home tomorrow thank god! If anyone can fix it but has to work, I will even be happy to pay what they would otherwise get if they are able to take the day off.

Thanks
Chris

Firstly, don't panic.

You can sort this yourself. Get the cams all locked in right place, crank at TDC, and start again slowly.

If you really are stuck, then I can possibly help, but not for at least a week and a bit.


Thanks, I'll have a go in the morning and let you know how it goes.

Cheers
Chris

No problemo..... :)
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Re: Help: (Urgent) Cambelt
« Reply #7 on: 11 December 2007, 12:55:48 »
Morning. I've had a better time this morning. I realigned the camshafts with the timing marks (crank shaft tool was in place). The cambelt went on much easier this time and tension was good all round the belt. Followed the dvd instructions and rotated the engine. The timing was slightly out on both banks, but I managed to adjust them with no problems.

BUT. After rotating the engine again, banks 3/4 are about 1/16th forward of the timing gauge tool, and banks 1/2 are spot on, however, turning the lower adustment no longer makes any difference - the camshafts do not move at all... And ideas what to do now?

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Re: Help: (Urgent) Cambelt
« Reply #8 on: 11 December 2007, 13:02:05 »
Yup....rotate the lower idler until it points to 3 Oclock and the upper until it points to 12 Oclock.

Turn the engine by hand again and then reset the timing.
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Re: Help: (Urgent) Cambelt
« Reply #9 on: 11 December 2007, 15:40:09 »
Thanks Mark. The site has been down for a while so I was not able to read your post. Anyway, I persevered and it is timed up spot on now. Just finished putting on the aux belt and now torquing the pulleys. Fingers crossed! I guess I wont know if it works until I start it  :-/
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Re: Help: (Urgent) Cambelt
« Reply #10 on: 11 December 2007, 16:59:05 »
Well done Chris. It's great that you've had a good result. As loads of people will tell you, the job always looks easier the next morning not that I'd know anything about that.  :-[

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Re: Help: (Urgent) Cambelt
« Reply #11 on: 11 December 2007, 18:14:57 »
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Well done Chris. It's great that you've had a good result. As loads of people will tell you, the job always looks easier the next morning not that I'd know anything about that.  :-[
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Cheers mate! I've jut got it all back together now. No screws were left over and I can't see anything I've missed. Going to have a cup of tea, fill up water + antifreeze, and give her a try. If you don't hear from me again it's all gone horribly wrong and I've committed suicide ;)
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Re: Help: (Urgent) Cambelt
« Reply #12 on: 11 December 2007, 18:51:20 »
The latest update. Just tried to start the car and it ran for a coupkle of seconds, sounding rough then cuts out. Tried this twice and the same thing. I'm scared to try again, so I think I'm now well and truly out of my depth.  :'(

My earlier off still stands, although it possibly might be a bigger job than just the timing belt? James, if you're still interested then let me know. I've hired a car so I can wait a couple of weeks if need be.

Thanks everyone for you help and comments. The dvd was a fantastic help and I would reccommend it. I looked up the procedure in the Haynes manual and it made no sense to me at all!

Thanks
Chris
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Re: Help: (Urgent) Cambelt
« Reply #13 on: 11 December 2007, 19:55:04 »
I'll check availability and drop you a PM tomorrow...

Sorry to hear this. I do hope it's something silly - are all your connectors home?
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Re: Help: (Urgent) Cambelt
« Reply #14 on: 11 December 2007, 21:36:29 »
Chris,

Are there any metal to metal noises?  Have you re-connected all wires? breathers?

As James says, might be somthing silly... i've been there, done that, got the sticker!  Hence my name The Cambelt Kid!  :y

My problem turned out to be no or little oil in the lifters which made my 2.6 sound like a bag of shi*e for the first few mins!  I completely filled my pants up to the brim with **** during the first few moments!  :'(  All is ok now!

My advice - take your time, check check and triple check all items you have disturbed!

Also just thinking about it - does your car have a IAC?  Is this back in it's place?
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