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Tony O

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v6 locking kit
« on: 20 February 2008, 08:51:51 »

Hi guys Im planning on doing my cambelt any ideas where I can get the locking kit?
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Re: v6 locking kit
« Reply #1 on: 20 February 2008, 10:26:36 »

Hi Tony, best bet is to borrow one for a weekend, some of the guys on here have them but you have to have at least 500 posts before they would consider lending it out (very expensive tool). If your looking to buy one, just type (VS130) into your search engine and hey presto. They are about 165 pounds new.
Hope this helps

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Re: v6 locking kit
« Reply #2 on: 20 February 2008, 15:19:23 »

They can be found for much less than this. Keep an eye on Ebay if your need is not urgent. Otherwise, some of the cheaper makes are well under the £100 markl. Beware of Laser kits because they are not accurately made and don't always fit!

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Re: v6 locking kit
« Reply #3 on: 20 February 2008, 15:28:29 »

Hi Tony, you can try autovaux, I bought my cam belt kit from them, along with hiring a locking kit, couldn't justify spending £100+ for a locking kit I'm only gonna use once or twice. They take £15 a week plus £100 deposit. Things are quiet for them at the moment on the cam locking kit front, so they gave me it for 2 weeks for the price of 1. Give them a try.

Note, their cam locking kit is a bit worn so the two cam locks have a small bit of play, so your 2nd timing belt mark might not line up to the cam tooth, you'll know what I mean when you get around to fitting your cam belt. You can move the cam by hand with the locking kit in place to get the belt to fit onto the correct tooth. Ensure all the marks line up before you rotate the engine.  
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Re: v6 locking kit
« Reply #4 on: 20 February 2008, 20:27:47 »

Just posted this in  another post  try  http://www.ccw-tools.com/Sealey/Vehicle-Service/Setting-&-Locking-Tools/Sealey-VSE130---Petrol-Engine-SettingLocking-Tool-Kit-5pc---GM-&-Saab/p-4-8-9-11978/

£71 inc vat and delivery.

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Re: v6 locking kit
« Reply #5 on: 21 February 2008, 21:05:58 »

you dont need a locking kit, when you have all your timming marks inline clamp the cam shafts together with mole grips, fit you belt anticlock wise a be very carefull, if it helps use a tipex white pen to highlight the timming marks first,
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Re: v6 locking kit
« Reply #6 on: 21 February 2008, 21:10:52 »

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you dont need a locking kit, when you have all your timming marks inline clamp the cam shafts together with mole grips, fit you belt anticlock wise a be very carefull, if it helps use a tipex white pen to highlight the timming marks first,


I wouldn't listen to this statement, if the topmen on here say you need to use Locking Kits then you need them :y
« Last Edit: 21 February 2008, 21:11:37 by Loo-knee »
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Re: v6 locking kit
« Reply #7 on: 21 February 2008, 21:19:07 »

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you dont need a locking kit, when you have all your timming marks inline clamp the cam shafts together with mole grips, fit you belt anticlock wise a be very carefull, if it helps use a tipex white pen to highlight the timming marks first,


I wouldn't listen to this statement, if the topmen on here say you need to use Locking Kits then you need them :y

You need a locking kit - Geffd who used to work a VX engine plant -done more belts than I've had hot dinners would not change one without a locking kit.
Timing marks are only a guide.

Use mole grips could be end result:

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Re: v6 locking kit
« Reply #8 on: 21 February 2008, 21:22:31 »

if you have your engine timed up correct lock it up with mole grips, if you cant get the tools ,done it load of times,  
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Re: v6 locking kit
« Reply #9 on: 21 February 2008, 21:36:08 »

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if you have your engine timed up correct lock it up with mole grips, if you cant get the tools ,done it load of times,  

How do know it been done right B4, and is correct ?


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Re: v6 locking kit
« Reply #10 on: 21 February 2008, 21:43:04 »

i take your point ,if your doing a belt change you use the tools to lock the shafts, how do you no it was done correct before  you dont ? its the same with or with out the fancy tools, use the timming marks thats why they are there to help you time the engine,  if you get the tools great but if you cant afford them there is this way, i have done it and its all ok
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Re: v6 locking kit
« Reply #11 on: 21 February 2008, 21:46:08 »

But with the Proper Locking Kit if it was out you would see it and correct it... so it would be right when you had done.
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Re: v6 locking kit
« Reply #12 on: 21 February 2008, 21:57:24 »

Locking kit less than £200 maximum , probably a lot cheaper.

New Engine more than £1000, probably more

2nd hand engine more than £500

last 2 ... loads of hassle to change....

do the maths your self and ask the question ........

is the risk worth it ? ........

then ask your self ...

am I a mechanic or a cowboy ???
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Re: v6 locking kit
« Reply #13 on: 21 February 2008, 21:57:56 »

if you built up an engine that had broken its belts you aligne the cam marks and insert the tools, what i do is aligne the marks and clamp the cam shafts wheels, it does the same job , ie locks the shafts with the timing marks, it may scare some folks but it can be done,  just trying to help the guy,  but yes if you can get the tool beg steal or borrow it use it
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Re: v6 locking kit
« Reply #14 on: 21 February 2008, 22:01:57 »

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if you built up an engine that had broken its belts you aligne the cam marks and insert the tools, what i do is aligne the marks and clamp the cam shafts wheels, it does the same job , ie locks the shafts with the timing marks, it may scare some folks but it can be done,  just trying to help the guy,  but yes if you can get the tool beg steal or borrow it use it

You will never be sure the V6 timing is spot on without the locking kit.

I agree, pretty much any other engine you can just lock the cams and if the marks line up you're good - but NOT on the GM V6. The timing on these engines is fractionally adjustable with the idlers, and you CANNOT get this right without the kit. Trust me ;)
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