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[Kevin Wood]

For those interested in Jeremy's kits he doesn't seem to have any ebay items at the moment (they are flying out the door anyway based on a phone call on Tuesday) but the following link is the web page he refers to on his Ebay items (for the 8 cylinder kit - haven't managed to track down the 4/6 cylinder details but it's similar. His contact details are here also).

http://www.lpg.myzen.co.uk/ufit/

He was amenable to a discount for OOF when I looked into this about 6 months ago. My feelings were that a bulk buy of a load of kits was going to be difficult to organise because whilst some members were chomping at the bit others needed to time stumping up 700 quid carefully.

Having said that, he did mention the possibility of setting up a generic "OOF member's" discount so individuals could place orders as and when, and I think this might be a better way of doing things. Be sure to mention OOF if you contact him so he knows we are generating a serious level of interest.

Kevin

[Elite Pete]

Would it not be better to cut out the middle man

[Dazzler]

Would it not be better to cut out the middle man

Isn't it always

[mkaminski100]

There is an official STAG distributor in UK and a producer above that. I can get a kit from them (Poland) but price difference between Jeremy’s set and the one from the producer is not that big. You can get is slightly cheaper in Poland but:
-there is an official AC STAG distributor in UK which will be pointed when anybody ask AC for a kit in UK. I would have to buy it for polish car with warranty valid in Poland.
-there is no English documentation attached. Only polish (I think that it’s not that big problem)
- nozzles, pipes etc are made for Polish customers and might not always fit (like Italian nozzle). You will have to be sure about those things.
-you have to add a delivery cost.
- UK certification which might cost up to £100 when bought from Poland and is negotiable when from Jeremy.
I think that it’s better idea to talk with Jeremy to get a discount  but I am also open to ask about V6 and 4 pot kits in Poland and UK.


Maybe it would be aesier if you cold make a list of people willing to purchase a set with specified tank type. It will be easier to give a number to negotiate a discount.

[Kevin Wood]

There is an official STAG distributor in UK and a producer above that. I can get a kit from them (Poland) but price difference between Jeremy’s set and the one from the producer is not that big. You can get is slightly cheaper in Poland but:
-there is an official AC STAG distributor in UK which will be pointed when anybody ask AC for a kit in UK. I would have to buy it for polish car with warranty valid in Poland.
-there is no English documentation attached. Only polish (I think that it’s not that big problem)
- nozzles, pipes etc are made for Polish customers and might not always fit (like Italian nozzle). You will have to be sure about those things.
-you have to add a delivery cost.
- UK certification which might cost up to £100 when bought from Poland and is negotiable when from Jeremy.
I think that it’s better idea to talk with Jeremy to get a discount  but I am also open to ask about V6 and 4 pot kits in Poland and UK.

I tend to think that for the benefits (2 Year warranty valid in the UK, easy route to certification, excellent support) Jeremy's kits are a pretty good deal.

Kevin

[Elite Pete]

Jeremy it is then

[mkaminski100]

I tend to think that for the benefits (2 Year warranty valid in the UK, easy route to certification, excellent support) Jeremy's kits are a pretty good deal.

Kevin

You get 2 years warranty from producer as well, but I personally wouldn’t like to save £50-70 and lose Jeremy’s support, spare parts and to be forced to pay £100 for certificate and send parts back to Poland if broken. I am Polish and would like to help to get more for less but I think that it’s not worth. Jeremy is offering good prices and only thing I would like to do is to ask him nicely to give a discount for OOF users.
 

[ricardo1500]

This is the link to his old ebay add for 6 pot kit
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MOTOGAS-AC-6-CYLINDER-LPG-INJECTION-GAS-CONVERSION-KIT_W0QQitemZ330225319532QQihZ014QQcategoryZ36631QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[Jay w]

right, we are early finsihed.....

connected everything up today, filled it up with gas and started the calibration, it only shows one injector active!!!

initially we thought it was because i had the LPG injectors hooked up in the wrong sequence, changed that and still the same.....

Now i took the RPM feed from no1 coil, would that have had an effect?

if so where the hell do i get a RPM feed from?

[Kevin Wood]

It's the green wire from the ECU again. Comes from X86 pin 25 on the ECU. This is the connector on the ECU that leads to the body loom rather than the engine loom.

Lambda sensors appear to be brown and black, one to pin 12 of X85 and one to pin 60.

Kevin

[Jay w]

my pin 25 is blank, nothing in it!!!!

got the lambdas sorted, this is just the last issue  

[Jay w]

this is getting more and more irritating.....

found the RPM feed on X86, connected that, tries running uto calibration again....

this time i will start on 1 cylinder, than after 30 ses it will introduce cyl 3 and 5, then will shut off the calibration.

tried moving the injector blocks, still the same issue with the same cylinders, so the injectors themselves are ok.

Now getting an error message saying cannot communicate with cyl 2,3,4,5,6  

all the wiring has been checked over by a mechanic, all of it is where is should be, no pipes kinked or trapped, i am at a complete loss  :-?

[Kevin Wood]

Hmm. I wonder what's going on?

If you don't do the calibration and just start the engine are you seeing petrol injection timings for all 6 cylinders in the live data on the AC software?

Is the RPM and all temperature readings plausible?

What happens if you just switch it over to gas?

Can you click on individual cylinders and swap them to gas? Do they all respond without a misfire?

Kevin

[Kevin Wood]

Might be worth doing a factory reset on the LPG ECU and starting again just in case it's got confused somehow.

Kevin

[Jay w]

If you don't do the calibration and just start the engine are you seeing petrol injection timings for all 6 cylinders in the live data on the AC software? yes, and i have a piece of diagnositic equipment called Launch and it confirms that what i am seeing is correct

Is the RPM and all temperature readings plausible? yes, temp is about 10 degree different

What happens if you just switch it over to gas? it switches straight back to petrol

Can you click on individual cylinders and swap them to gas? Do they all respond without a misfire? no, the only way i can get it on gas is when auto calibration is running

have done a reset via the AC software, and still no change