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Re: oh buggerit
« Reply #15 on: 09 November 2008, 19:28:00 »
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To be honest, they are quite manouverable and stoppable without engien running.....they will stop in a similar distance and steering is certiably heavier but by no means terrible

Depends whether you're ready for it! If it breaks on the move and takes you unaware .... I very nearly went into a line of parked cars when the (separate) power steering V belt went on my Senator as I pulled onto the works car park. It's very heavy when you're not ready for it. And yes! I've been on the wrong end of a towpole a couple of time with the 'bloody Omega' to know how heavy it is.  :y
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Re: oh buggerit
« Reply #16 on: 09 November 2008, 19:30:55 »
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To be honest, they are quite manouverable and stoppable without engien running.....they will stop in a similar distance and steering is certiably heavier but by no means terrible

Depends whether you're ready for it! If it breaks on the move and takes you unaware .... I very nearly went into a line of parked cars when the (separate) power steering V belt went on my Senator as I pulled onto the works car park. It's very heavy when you're not ready for it. And yes! I've been on the wrong end of a towpole a couple of time with the 'bloody Omega' to know how heavy it is.  :y
I don't recall any worries with steering or brakes when crank sensor failed - but then I was more worried about the Automatic Gearbox error that popped up on MID, and the christmas tree dash ;D
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« Reply #17 on: 09 November 2008, 19:31:27 »
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lol....  thanks chaps....  you're all having he same thought i did.....  


sadly james appears to have chosen this moment to be on holiday (no doubt  well deserved i might add) so i'll have to pay the local muppet garage to recover the vehicle.......     and do the fix.....    i'm in no position , time wise, or spine wise (neck is acting up at the Moment, probably due to over work....   ) to tackle it, although i know it's straight forward......


(yes i'd have had to pay James, but it feels a LOT better paying him , forum member and mate that he is, than the garage.....  )


  

Shame your not closer I'd have done it for you.
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« Reply #18 on: 09 November 2008, 19:34:18 »
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To be honest, they are quite manouverable and stoppable without engien running.....they will stop in a similar distance and steering is certiably heavier but by no means terrible

Depends whether you're ready for it! If it breaks on the move and takes you unaware .... I very nearly went into a line of parked cars when the (separate) power steering V belt went on my Senator as I pulled onto the works car park. It's very heavy when you're not ready for it. And yes! I've been on the wrong end of a towpole a couple of time with the 'bloody Omega' to know how heavy it is.  :y
I don't recall any worries with steering or brakes when crank sensor failed - but then I was more worried about the Automatic Gearbox error that popped up on MID, and the christmas tree dash ;D
My comment was re the engine not running ..... same as no aux belt driving power steering.
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« Reply #19 on: 09 November 2008, 19:58:48 »
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To be honest, they are quite manouverable and stoppable without engien running.....they will stop in a similar distance and steering is certiably heavier but by no means terrible

Depends whether you're ready for it! If it breaks on the move and takes you unaware .... I very nearly went into a line of parked cars when the (separate) power steering V belt went on my Senator as I pulled onto the works car park. It's very heavy when you're not ready for it. And yes! I've been on the wrong end of a towpole a couple of time with the 'bloody Omega' to know how heavy it is.  :y
I don't recall any worries with steering or brakes when crank sensor failed - but then I was more worried about the Automatic Gearbox error that popped up on MID, and the christmas tree dash ;D
My comment was re the engine not running ..... same as no aux belt driving power steering.
Nor was mine ;) - a cut engine with an auto, the tc unlocks straight away, hence engine at 0rpm
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« Reply #20 on: 09 November 2008, 20:01:10 »
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....... hence engine at 0rpm

still not with you then.  :-/ 0rpm = no power steering pump :-/
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« Reply #21 on: 09 November 2008, 20:22:36 »
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....... hence engine at 0rpm

still not with you then.  :-/ 0rpm = no power steering pump :-/
Precisely. But still very controllable.
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Re: oh buggerit
« Reply #22 on: 09 November 2008, 22:51:33 »
No, Max, you would not have to pay me a penny. I even have a spare sensor you could have.

I do what I do because I enjoy it, and it's a bit of pocket money - it still doesn't mean I'm going to charge my good friends.  ;)

It's just a shame I'm not around for a while  :'(
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« Reply #23 on: 09 November 2008, 23:44:17 »
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....... hence engine at 0rpm

still not with you then.  :-/ 0rpm = no power steering pump :-/
Precisely. But still very controllable.

Which leads me back to where I started.  :y


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Depends whether you're ready for it! If it breaks on the move and takes you unaware .... .......

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Re: oh buggerit
« Reply #24 on: 12 November 2008, 12:11:50 »
thanks all...  (esp tunnie and james, TB and MTDM, for the offers of assorted natures ;)  stars that they are)

fixed....  not as bad as it might have been i guess....  (£162 , including recovery, parts, and vat....    i could swear we had breakdown cover on the insurance, but can't find any documentation for it....  so couldn't call it.....    will have to ring insurers and find out.....   )


sensor cables rerouted in the process....    they remembered doing my last elite's .....     bless em...


at least it wasn't a cam belt failure.....   8-)



(must get that done, it's due as of about 50 miles ago...   not overdue....  (40K repacement figure, not old 80k one.... )

James will be getting a call methinks....   :D

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Re: oh buggerit
« Reply #25 on: 12 November 2008, 12:15:23 »
and control with no power is no fun....   yes it can be stered, and stopped, but quite nervously......     and with significant effort.....     managed to roll it about 1/2 a mile after EM light came on, i took the box in to neutral as soon as i realised what was going on.....   rolled up the A34 slip road , down the link road and around on to botley road , in to a car park.....     all with no power....


bit like a kiddies go-cart ....  but more expensive.
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« Reply #26 on: 12 November 2008, 12:16:48 »
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bit like a kiddies go-cart ....  but more expensive.

and a lot heavier :P
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Re: oh buggerit
« Reply #27 on: 12 November 2008, 12:41:03 »
Excuse my ignorance, but lots of recommendations to carry a spare crank sensor here - how much is the part typically? Also when do they tend to pack up, is it mileage or time related (just wondering whether to get one in case, mine is 5 years old with 40k on the clock....).
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Re: oh buggerit
« Reply #28 on: 12 November 2008, 16:34:28 »
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Excuse my ignorance, but lots of recommendations to carry a spare crank sensor here - how much is the part typically? Also when do they tend to pack up, is it mileage or time related (just wondering whether to get one in case, mine is 5 years old with 40k on the clock....).
They go at anytime and at any milage, thats why its recommended to carry a spare ;)
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Re: oh buggerit
« Reply #29 on: 12 November 2008, 19:13:38 »
They generaly last about 7-8 years or 100K miles.....you might be unlucky and get one fail earlier.

If installed using the improved routing then they do last much longer

So all in, if thats the common failure, they do pretty well!
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