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How long to change steering pump.
« on: 08 January 2009, 11:39:46 »
TD steering pump has bad bearing/seal?   I'm leaking fluid & it's noisy.
Is TD pump same as others, How long to change. This & glowplus in this weather argh!
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Re: How long to change steering pump.
« Reply #1 on: 08 January 2009, 19:08:57 »
took me and TB about an hour and a half to change the pump on a td!!! access is not the best!!! prob better to do it when you have the inlet off for the glowplugs to be honest as then you can at least get to the top bolts, i think we ended up removing or loosening at least the alternator to!!! :y
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Re: How long to change steering pump.
« Reply #2 on: 08 January 2009, 21:01:52 »
Shame as I had hoped to leave manifold on. Last time I couldnt get it off :) Only loosened it & lfted an inch. I imagine ye are a lot faster than I . Got s/h pump today . plugs not arrived yet. Looks like I need a new battery too. But I need one for the mastercraft anyway. Why in the winter???
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Re: How long to change steering pump.
« Reply #3 on: 08 January 2009, 21:29:55 »
Omegatoy and I had to remove alternator on Mrs Omegatoy's estate, which means inlet off.

Its all an easy job, just a bit time consuming.
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Re: How long to change steering pump.
« Reply #4 on: 08 January 2009, 21:41:42 »
Sounds troublesome. Cupfull of D111 got me 150mls today but I'll crawl underneath tomorrow if its not snowing?
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Re: How long to change steering pump.
« Reply #5 on: 08 January 2009, 21:43:26 »
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Sounds troublesome. Cupfull of D111 got me 150mls today but I'll crawl underneath tomorrow if its not snowing?
You can get to all 4 bolts that mount it from underneath, but trying to remember why we had to remove alternator.  I think it was because the pump wouldn't drop out the bottom, and had to lift out top...
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Re: How long to change steering pump.
« Reply #6 on: 08 January 2009, 23:06:55 »
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Omegatoy and I had to remove alternator on Mrs Omegatoy's estate, which means inlet off.

Its all an easy job, just a bit time consuming.
I call an easy job one that is not time consuming.

From what I saw I'd well believe that it won't drop out the bottom opps.
It's getting to the stage that the backstreet boys only want to change oil and pads for 100, Nothing awkward please.
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Re: How long to change steering pump.
« Reply #7 on: 08 January 2009, 23:12:04 »
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took me and TB about an hour and a half to change the pump on a td!!! access is not the best!!! prob better to do it when you have the inlet off for the glowplugs to be honest as then you can at least get to the top bolts, i think we ended up removing or loosening at least the alternator to!!! :y
Does this mean you got the manifold off & on in the 1 1/2 hr as well.

I think I wasted 2 hrs not getting the manifold off. Or does it vary from car to car. It looked like I would have to drop the engine a bit.

And does anyone actually buy new gaskets???? ::)
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Re: How long to change steering pump.
« Reply #8 on: 09 January 2009, 07:50:18 »
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Sounds troublesome. Cupfull of D111 got me 150mls today but I'll crawl underneath tomorrow if its not snowing?

Oh crap!!!! pleae tell me you mistyped that and are not using dex 3 in the power steering? if you are then i have to tell you thats why the pump died!!!!! vxhall sent a memo round telling garages not to use dex 3 under any circumstances in the power steering pump as it kils them!!! i did post this up a year or so ago, thats the exact reason we had to change mrs omegatoys pump!!!
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Re: How long to change steering pump.
« Reply #9 on: 09 January 2009, 09:10:37 »
Yes I used Dex 3. But only to top up after pump Died. It says D3 in my owners handbook. What should it be. Will it kill the box as well?

Do I need to drain it all & replace with D2.?
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Re: How long to change steering pump.
« Reply #10 on: 09 January 2009, 10:10:29 »
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took me and TB about an hour and a half to change the pump on a td!!! access is not the best!!! prob better to do it when you have the inlet off for the glowplugs to be honest as then you can at least get to the top bolts, i think we ended up removing or loosening at least the alternator to!!! :y
Does this mean you got the manifold off & on in the 1 1/2 hr as well.

I think I wasted 2 hrs not getting the manifold off. Or does it vary from car to car. It looked like I would have to drop the engine a bit.

And does anyone actually buy new gaskets???? ::)
inlet manifold comes off in 10 mins, 12 nuts hold it to head, 2 retaining bolts to bracket from oil filter, 2 bolts for egr pipe, 1 jubilee clip to black turbo diesel plastics (which itself needs to come off (2 bolts, 2 jubilees.
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Re: How long to change steering pump.
« Reply #11 on: 09 January 2009, 10:11:40 »
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Sounds troublesome. Cupfull of D111 got me 150mls today but I'll crawl underneath tomorrow if its not snowing?

Oh crap!!!! pleae tell me you mistyped that and are not using dex 3 in the power steering? if you are then i have to tell you thats why the pump died!!!!! vxhall sent a memo round telling garages not to use dex 3 under any circumstances in the power steering pump as it kils them!!! i did post this up a year or so ago, thats the exact reason we had to change mrs omegatoys pump!!!
It wasn't DIII per se, it was the particular variant that Vx started using at the time damaged some seals or something like that.

To be on the safe side though, I'd use DII
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Re: How long to change steering pump.
« Reply #12 on: 09 January 2009, 10:12:36 »
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Yes I used Dex 3. But only to top up after pump Died. It says D3 in my owners handbook. What should it be. Will it kill the box as well?

Do I need to drain it all & replace with D2.?
It was originally DIII, but then Vx changed the DIII that they sold, and the new DIII stuff was causing issues, so they reverted to DII for the PAS.
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Re: How long to change steering pump.
« Reply #13 on: 09 January 2009, 13:57:46 »
I had used Comma Dex111.

I,ll time myself & report how long it take to get the manifold off.

Last time I gave up, Couldn't get it off the studs at the back.
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Re: How long to change steering pump.
« Reply #14 on: 09 January 2009, 16:55:15 »
Main Dealer says D111.
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