Omega Owners Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

News:

Please check the Forum Guidelines at the top of the Newbie section

Pages: [1] 2  All   Go Down

Author Topic: V6 engine conversion  (Read 4518 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Burtle

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • 0
  • Posts: 48
    • View Profile
V6 engine conversion
« on: 03 February 2009, 13:12:29 »
Hello everyone,

I have a Reliant Scimitar SE6A and want to replace the boat anchor of an engine (Ford Essex 2.9 V6) with a decent Vauxhall 3L V6.

So what I need is a good 3L engine, and a manual box. Now I realise that the manual 3L is a little rare, but I'm guessing that a 3L auto engine will fit a 2.5L manual box? I'm also guessing the same for the flywheel and clutch arrangement on a 3L (changing from viscous to manual that is).

To get me going I'll also need the ECU and complete wiring loom. Just how transplantable are these engines?

Just to make sure my final drive is correct what is the diff ratio of a V6 Omega?

Finally does anyone have any of these parts and are local to Somerset? Cash waiting!

Cheers
Nath
Logged

tunnie

  • Get A Life!!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Surrey
  • Posts: 37625
    • Zafira Tourer & BMW 435i
    • View Profile
Re: V6 engine conversion
« Reply #1 on: 03 February 2009, 13:38:16 »
a 3.0V6 will fit a 2.5V6 Manual box, but it will shred it in just a few miles.

If your fitting a 3.0V6 you must fit the R28 manual box (as fitted to 3.0/3.2's), look for ex-plod cars being broke for them  :y
Logged

Martin_1962

  • Guest
Re: V6 engine conversion
« Reply #2 on: 03 February 2009, 14:22:07 »
You need engine with loom, ECU, ECU loom, immobiliser pickup, immobiliser chip from key.

I suggest break an ex plod 3.0 your self, or contact a skilled breaker from this forum who can dig out all the wiring for you
Logged

Elite Pete

  • Omega Queen
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Chester
  • Posts: 19580
  • My spider senses are tingling
    • Audi SQ5 GSX1400
    • View Profile
Re: V6 engine conversion
« Reply #3 on: 03 February 2009, 14:25:05 »
Quote
You need engine with loom, ECU, ECU loom, immobiliser pickup, immobiliser chip from key.

I suggest break an ex plod 3.0 your self, or contact a skilled breaker from this forum who can dig out all the wiring for you
You won't find one on here ;D
Logged
Retired

Marks DTM Calib

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • West Bridgford
  • Posts: 34067
  • Git!
    • View Profile
Re: V6 engine conversion
« Reply #4 on: 03 February 2009, 14:46:46 »
Quote
a 3.0V6 will fit a 2.5V6 Manual box, but it will shred it in just a few miles.

If your fitting a 3.0V6 you must fit the R28 manual box (as fitted to 3.0/3.2's), look for ex-plod cars being broke for them  :y


Not true......the R25 will probably last equaly as long as the R28!

We are talking MANUAL boxes, not the autos!

As for transplant, wiring should be pretty easy as the engine loom with ecu etc is a standalone item which only requires a few external connection (vehicle speed, immobiliser plus a few others).

Diff ratio varies but manaual is generaly 3.9:1

The 3.0 is a very compact unit and with better headers can get an easy 240bhp with little work
Logged

Andy B

  • Get A Life!!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Bury Lancs
  • Posts: 39843
    • ML350 TDM SmartRoadster
    • View Profile
Re: V6 engine conversion
« Reply #5 on: 03 February 2009, 15:14:13 »
Quote
Hello everyone,

I have a Reliant Scimitar SE6A and want to replace the boat anchor of an engine (Ford Essex 2.9 V6) with a decent Vauxhall 3L V6.

.......

I thought the Essex were 2.5 & 3.0 .....  :-/
The 2.9 12 valve is a Cologne isn't it?  :-/ and is  the engine fitted to the Middlebridge versions.  :-/ :-/



Anyway, how fast do you want to go in a car that uses an antiquated front suspension with trunions in it ?  ;) :y

Logged

ffcgary1

  • Omega Baron
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Mitcham,Surrey.
  • Posts: 2805
  • I really must get my eyes seen to.
    • Omega Estate/ jaguar XJ6
    • View Profile
Re: V6 engine conversion
« Reply #6 on: 03 February 2009, 15:16:44 »
i have a 3.0ltr R28 box for sale if your interested, mate so pm me for details.
Logged
Elite leather, cruise control, 3.0ltr cams, gas flowed 3.0ltr inlet manifold, 4 bar fuel pressure regulator, rear side window demisters, rear electric windows. projectors /HID'S, h/l washers.
Jaguar XJ6

Burtle

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • 0
  • Posts: 48
    • View Profile
Re: V6 engine conversion
« Reply #7 on: 03 February 2009, 16:23:39 »
Quote
Quote
Hello everyone,

I have a Reliant Scimitar SE6A and want to replace the boat anchor of an engine (Ford Essex 2.9 V6) with a decent Vauxhall 3L V6.

.......

I thought the Essex were 2.5 & 3.0 .....  :-/
The 2.9 12 valve is a Cologne isn't it?  :-/ and is  the engine fitted to the Middlebridge versions.  :-/ :-/



Anyway, how fast do you want to go in a car that uses an antiquated front suspension with trunions in it ?  ;) :y


Good point about the Essex, it is indeed 3L, and all iron so very heavy.

How fast do I want to go in a car with trunions?   As fast as posible, this car is entered into the Practical Performace Car magazines £999 challenge. I'm off to Mallory park in it at the end of May, it needs to complete a standing quarter mile, autotest and lap of Mallory park.   Much fun indeed, Oh and it need to be road legal.

http://www.practicalperformancecar.com/index.asp

Cheers
Logged

Burtle

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • 0
  • Posts: 48
    • View Profile
Re: V6 engine conversion
« Reply #8 on: 03 February 2009, 16:26:48 »
Quote
i have a 3.0ltr R28 box for sale if your interested, mate so pm me for details.

PM sent,  cheers

I'm still on the hunt for an engine too!
Logged

Burtle

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • 0
  • Posts: 48
    • View Profile
Re: V6 engine conversion
« Reply #9 on: 03 February 2009, 21:11:21 »
Well I've just been chatting to a mate who is scrapping a Frontera 3.2 limited. Will the 3.2 V6 also fit an R28?

Looking at the spec it's 205bhp and 214lbs/ft

Cheers
Nath
Logged

MutantCav

  • Omega Baron
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Gainsborough
  • Posts: 2716
  • Smoke me a kipper - I'll be back for Breakfast
    • View Profile
    • Free Giffgaff Sim With £5 Free Credit
Re: V6 engine conversion
« Reply #10 on: 03 February 2009, 21:52:33 »
Got 2 R28 gearboxes here...pretty cheap as they are taking up needed garage space  :y
« Last Edit: 03 February 2009, 21:54:24 by ShieldOfSteel »
Logged
http://giffgaff.com/orders/affiliate/tvpromo Get a free giffgaff sim running on O2 network
£5 free credit on first top-up
£5 gives you 60 mins, 300 texts & unltd calls and texts to anyone else on giffgaff

Burtle

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • 0
  • Posts: 48
    • View Profile
Re: V6 engine conversion
« Reply #11 on: 03 February 2009, 22:43:43 »
Quote
Got 2 R28 gearboxes here...pretty cheap as they are taking up needed garage space  :y

Many thanks, PM sent.

this is what the engine and box is destined for.



Cheers
Nath
Logged

Andy B

  • Get A Life!!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Bury Lancs
  • Posts: 39843
    • ML350 TDM SmartRoadster
    • View Profile
Re: V6 engine conversion
« Reply #12 on: 03 February 2009, 22:50:54 »
That door handle mould must have paid for itself millions of times over. Marinas, Allegros, Range Rovers, etc etc

Nice Scimitar though
Logged

Pete Elite

  • Omega Knight
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Uxbridge, Middlesex
  • Posts: 1749
    • View Profile
Re: V6 engine conversion
« Reply #13 on: 03 February 2009, 23:17:56 »
Why don't you try putting a Rover V8 lump with 5 speed box in it as will probably be lighter than both Ford and VXs V6 lumps and has more scope for power improvements :).
Logged

Martin_1962

  • Guest
Re: V6 engine conversion
« Reply #14 on: 04 February 2009, 09:56:47 »
Quote
Why don't you try putting a Rover V8 lump with 5 speed box in it as will probably be lighter than both Ford and VXs V6 lumps and has more scope for power improvements :).


Cue Mark!

Actually the Rover V8 is getting a little more difficult to find now.
Logged
Pages: [1] 2  All   Go Up
« previous next »
 

Page created in 0.013 seconds with 17 queries.