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Re: 2.5TD poor starting
« Reply #60 on: 26 April 2009, 10:49:19 »

Its not running, the fuel level is still around 20l should I get a can full (5 lt) or do I now need to change the fuel pump :o Im going to rebuild the car at this rate :D :D
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Re: 2.5TD poor starting
« Reply #61 on: 26 April 2009, 11:04:24 »

Remove both rubber hoses from top of pump plate, noting their orientation. Now turn the key to second position, and see if fuel squirts out of one of them. You might have to cut-off the old clips and refit with smallish jubilee clips.

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Re: 2.5TD poor starting
« Reply #62 on: 26 April 2009, 11:44:16 »

nothing :( I have checked 18 ( 20 ) fuse and thats fine
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Re: 2.5TD poor starting
« Reply #63 on: 26 April 2009, 12:03:02 »

I'm assuming that your satisfied there's electrical supply to the pump.

Undo the large collar on the tank plate - I use a blunt cold-chisel/hammer tapping gently anti-clockwise. Then disconnect the battery and release the multi-plug, putting it out of harms way.

Now follow Platty's post in Maintenance Guides and release the pump.
Beware that there's a clip to release the ribbed transfer pipe from the pump itself, which is released by pushing the thumb grip on the retaining clip inwards.
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Re: 2.5TD poor starting
« Reply #64 on: 26 April 2009, 12:52:08 »

Taken out pump, filter doesnt look that bad. Ive linked it to a battery and nothing happened, so as long as I did that right I guess its dead. Had enough now so will have another look tomorrow :( :( and find out how much more money Syd is going to cost me. Just a thought shame I cant take the pump out of Pete? But thats petrol so guess its different?
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Re: 2.5TD poor starting
« Reply #65 on: 26 April 2009, 13:14:53 »

Yep, pump is different apparently. I need to have a look at mine, but my plan was to get hold of a spare, only I have not found one yet.  ::)
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Re: 2.5TD poor starting
« Reply #66 on: 26 April 2009, 13:57:01 »

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Taken out pump, filter doesnt look that bad. Ive linked it to a battery and nothing happened, so as long as I did that right I guess its dead. Had enough now so will have another look tomorrow :( :( and find out how much more money Syd is going to cost me. Just a thought shame I cant take the pump out of Pete? But thats petrol so guess its different?

Personally, I'd get a new one from Vx, but you could try Omega Spare Parts on 07706 495877. I've had good service from them in the past.
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Re: 2.5TD poor starting
« Reply #67 on: 26 April 2009, 14:20:42 »

I couldnt let it beat me so have spent ages cleaning connections and testing bits. Now have pump running but snapped of filter on the bottom >:( so cant put it back in and try it. Doubt I can get one today so will have to wait until tomorrw, but at least I dont need a new pump and Ive learnt lots again :D :D :D thank you
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Re: 2.5TD poor starting
« Reply #68 on: 26 April 2009, 14:32:55 »

Right ali, good on yer mate!

While you've got the top off the tank, why not try blowing through the ribbed transfer pipe, (or an air-line), then clean the swirl-chamber base thoroughly. Obviously, this is best done by emptying the tank first. You could temporarily refit the pump, and connect a hose from the outlet to a barrel. Pump runs for about 30 seconds at a time - it's just a case of being patient whilst the pump does the job for you. I use this method myself successfully.
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Re: 2.5TD poor starting
« Reply #69 on: 26 April 2009, 14:45:25 »

For what its worth my lift pump was completly dead ...its very easy to make the petrol lift pump fit..ive had no further problems ..pm  me if you want further details as i dont want to bable on if you dont want to try it
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Re: 2.5TD poor starting
« Reply #70 on: 26 April 2009, 17:18:44 »

I broke the filter off mine while pricking around trying to sort no cold start. I just wired it back on . No problem. The faullt turned out to be the leak off pipes.
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Re: 2.5TD poor starting
« Reply #71 on: 27 April 2009, 08:53:22 »

Have attached filter back on just to test if thats solved the problem. I now have fuel coming out of 1 pipe but still none getting to injectors.  have no other car to run about in today so cant try the brake cleaner thing :(  I think Syds beaten me and Im going to have to call out a man :-/ any thing else I can try to get the diesel flowing :'( To end on a positive note all codes have cleared on paper clip test just the 12 :y
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Re: 2.5TD poor starting
« Reply #72 on: 27 April 2009, 09:04:19 »

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Have attached filter back on just to test if thats solved the problem. I now have fuel coming out of 1 pipe but still none getting to injectors.  have no other car to run about in today so cant try the brake cleaner thing :(  I think Syds beaten me and Im going to have to call out a man :-/ any thing else I can try to get the diesel flowing :'( To end on a positive note all codes have cleared on paper clip test just the 12 :y
Possibly now an airlock in system.

Pop off fuel filter, and fill that to the brim with diesel.

Then, to bleed the injector lines, with the car running (if it will, else short stints of cranking), loosen they fuel pipe to each injector at a time (only about 1/2 a turn) until you get a good spurt of fuel.
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Re: 2.5TD poor starting
« Reply #73 on: 27 April 2009, 09:51:36 »

Yep ali, probably just needs a good bleeding now.
Follow TB's advice. ^^^
« Last Edit: 27 April 2009, 09:52:43 by Reliance505 »
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Re: 2.5TD poor starting
« Reply #74 on: 27 April 2009, 10:04:12 »

ok will wait for the rain to stop :) Fuel filter? will have a look where that is and then have to drain some diesel off. Did try bleeding the injectors as said but it didnt work and the battery died. On charge again and will do filter before trying again. Thanks guys
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