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[Marks DTM Calib]

Dyson didn't invent cylone based filtration or vaccuming.....all he did was apply its use to a portable vaccum....then fitted a naff motor that has a habit of buring out and loads of complex plastic mouldings to make it fragile.........

[Golfbuddy]

did the English not invent talking 'dangle berries' during football matches

I think they probably did. Just after they'd invented football itself.  

[cem_devecioglu]

Dyson didn't invent cylone based filtration or vaccuming.....all he did was apply its use to a portable vaccum....then fitted a naff motor that has a habit of buring out and loads of complex plastic mouldings to make it fragile.........

I'm angry for Dyson..The cleaning machines with his name are very expensive here..Wife wanted one but I buy a cheaper..And guess after what  

[Kevin Wood]

Dyson didn't invent cylone based filtration or vaccuming.....all he did was apply its use to a portable vaccum....then fitted a naff motor that has a habit of buring out and loads of complex plastic mouldings to make it fragile.........

OOH! Not to mention loads of really sharp corners in the air path designed to clog the 'king thing up and a cyclone that won't remove DIY dust so it clogs the tiny paper filter (which is a bit like a vacuum cleaner bag (shock! horror!) though not as effective)!

A mate of mine thinks he's great because it took him something like 200 different designs of cyclone to get it right but he didn't give up. Nope, he didn't. He just wasted loads of time and money re-inventing the wheel. What he should have done was to pick up an engineering textbook, turn to the cyclone chapter armed with his required flow rate and range of particle sizes..... Would have been the work of an afternoon.

Kevin

[Marks DTM Calib]

Lol......I personaly think that THE only clever bit is the see through collection section.

It works as a great marketing ploy because people look at it and go 'hasn't it picked up a lot of rubbish'.....when in reality they never gave it a second thought on thier old machine!

[Kevin Wood]

Lol......I personaly think that THE only clever bit is the see through collection section.

It works as a great marketing ploy because people look at it and go 'hasn't it picked up a lot of rubbish'.....when in reality they never gave it a second thought on thier old machine!

True. You can see when it's full too, rather than just wandering round the house without picking up any dust at all!

Kevin

[Martin_1962]

Got one the cyclonic vacuum cleaner...............Yes,get in

Yep actually invented by Robert Dyson, immigrant family from Belgium

Really
I thought it was James

can anyone back me up on this,cus MD has made a few errors on this thread and needs tellin'
 

Your probably right could well be James, cos I don't even know what the ifrs guys name is, I have one of his hoovers though

Careful the Dyson Police will get you!

"You have been charged with insulting our Vacuum Cleaner by calling it by an inferior competitors name"

If my wife mentions the H word I remind her that that particular toaster was dumped years ago, then she moans at me and I remind her we have a Dyson and that the last Hoover product we had was a toaster!

[Martin_1962]

Dyson didn't invent cylone based filtration or vaccuming.....all he did was apply its use to a portable vaccum....then fitted a naff motor that has a habit of buring out and loads of complex plastic mouldings to make it fragile.........

Inertial filtration has been around for years English Electric used it for loco air filters. James Dyson had some wood working equipment with this style of filtration - which gave him the idea.

Essential piece of kit for Dyson maintenance is an air compressor to blast out the cyclone.

[Martin_1962]

did the English not invent talking 'dangle berries' during football matches

I think they probably did. Just after they'd invented football itself.  

I found something of a link from BBC, every school had its own form of football and two types survived

Association Football
and
Rugby Football

[Golfbuddy]

Dyson didn't invent cylone based filtration or vaccuming.....all he did was apply its use to a portable vaccum....then fitted a naff motor that has a habit of buring out and loads of complex plastic mouldings to make it fragile.........

OOH! Not to mention loads of really sharp corners in the air path designed to clog the 'king thing up and a cyclone that won't remove DIY dust so it clogs the tiny paper filter (which is a bit like a vacuum cleaner bag (shock! horror!) though not as effective)!

A mate of mine thinks he's great because it took him something like 200 different designs of cyclone to get it right but he didn't give up. Nope, he didn't. He just wasted loads of time and money re-inventing the wheel. What he should have done was to pick up an engineering textbook, turn to the cyclone chapter armed with his required flow rate and range of particle sizes..... Would have been the work of an afternoon.

Kevin

All good points but it's a little unfair to criticise Dyson for the engineering. Dyson is a designer not an engineer. He added design to a previously purley functional appliance and has made over £1 billion in the process.

Until the British government got greedy, all of his appliances were manufactured in the UK and his engineers and designers are still here.

Extract from Wikipedia:

Following his success, the other major manufacturers began to market their own bagless vacuum cleaners. Dyson sued Hoover UK for patent infringement and won around $5 million in damages. His manufacturing plant moved from England to Malaysia, for economic reasons and because of difficulty acquiring land for expansion leaving 800 workers redundant. The company's headquarters and research facilities remain in Malmesbury, Wiltshire. Dyson later stated that because of the cost savings from transferring production to Malaysia he was able to invest in R&D at Malmesbury. Dyson employs more people in the UK than he did before the transfer of manufacturing to Malaysia, although some would argue that this is another British company who moved production jobs abroad to save money.

In my opinion, James Dyson is just the sort of entrepreneur we should be encouraging in this country. It seems to be in our nature to knock anyone who has suceeded where others have failed. I agree that the invention of the cyclone technology wasn't his, he openly admits this and explains where he got it from, but it was his idea to use that technology in the domestic vacuum cleaner and to make the thing look good, in the opinion of the millions of people who have bought them, as well.

I say, James Dyson for King.  

[Kevin Wood]

I agree in the most part, but as an engineer I find that someone marketing themselves on the fact that they employ trial and error as a development methodology grates a little bit.

I don't think the end result is as revolutionary as claimed. Like every other "hoover" it does the job but has its' flaws.

Kevin

[cem_devecioglu]

I buy similiar model (watch inside-bagless) Philips machine nearly 1/3 price of Dyson.Works very good..After a while, wife also like it too..

Cleaning machine is a consumption material anyway.Not worth paying too much..


ps: like the LG DVD which survived only 8 months..

[MikeDundee]

Tarmac (short for tarmacadam, a portmanteau for tar-penetration macadam) is a type of highway surface.

Strictly speaking, Tarmac refers to a material patented by E. Purnell Hooley in 1901. The term is also used, with varying degrees of correctness, for a variety of other materials, including tar-grouted macadam, Tarvia, bituminous surface treatments and even modern asphalt concrete.

E. Purnell Hooley was ENGLISH.  

Look again

http://www.electricscotland.com/history/other/macadam_john.htm

Well, blow me down with a feather, he wasn't English he was Welsh:

Edgar Purnell Hooley (5 June 1860 - 26 January 1942) was the inventor of Tarmac.

Hooley was born in Swansea. In his capacity as the County Surveyor of Nottinghamshire he was passing a tarworks in 1901. He noticed that a barrel of tar had been spilled on the roadway and, in an attempt to reduce the mess, someone had dumped gravel on top of it. The area was remarkably dust-free compared to the surrounding road, and it inspired Hooley to develop and patent Tarmac in Britain.

He called his company Tar Macadam (Purnell Hooley's Patent) Syndicate Limited, but unfortunately he had trouble selling his product as he was not an experienced businessman. His company was soon bought out by the Wolverhampton MP, Sir Alfred Hickman, who was also the owner of a steelworks which produced large quantities of waste slag. The Tarmac company was relaunched in 1905, and became an immediate success: it remains a major player in the UK market for heavy building materials.

He died at his home in Oxford in 1942.

So, whilst a scot had the road design named after him, it was Pooley who invented Tarmac and finished the job properly.

Hope this clears up any confusion you may have been experiencing Mike.  

  .....Yeah right , go back to school.....................

[MikeDundee]

DAMN FEW AND THEY'RE A' DEID!.............. ........Read on...............

The average Englishmen in the house he calls castle, slips into his national costume - a shabby raincoat - patented by Chemist Charles Macintosh from Glasgow, Scotland.
In route to his office he strides along the English lane, surfaced by John Macadam of Ayr, Scotland.
He drives an English car fitted with tyres invented by John Boyd Dunlop, Veterinary Surgeon of Dreghorn, Scotland.
At the office he receives the mail bearing adhesive stamps invented by John Chalmers, Bookseller and Printer of Dundee, Scotland.

During the day he uses the telephone invented by Alexandar Graham Bell born in Scotland. At home in the evening his daughter pedals her bicycle invented by Kirkpatrick Macmillan, Blacksmith of Thornhill, Dumfrieshire, Scotland.
He watches the news on T.V. an invention of John Logie Baird of Helensburgh, Scotland and hears an item about the U.S. Navy founded by John Paul Jones of Kirkbean, Scotland.

Nowhere can an Englishmen turn to escape the ingenuity of the Scots.

He has by now been reminded too much of Scotland and in desperation he picks up the Bible, only to findthat the first man mentioned in the good book is a Scot - King James VI - who authorised its translation.
He could take to drink but the scots make the best in the world.He could take a rifle and end it all but the breech-loading rifle was invented by Captain Patrick Ferguson of Pitfours, Scotland.

If he escaped death, he could find himself on an operating table injected with Penicillin, discovered by Sir Alexander Fleming of Darvel, Scotland and given Chloroform, an anaesthetic discovered by Sir James Young Simpson, Obstetrician and Gynaecologist of Bathgate, Scotland.
Out of anaesthetic he would find no comfort in learning that he was as safe as the Bank of England founded by William Paterson of Dumfries, Scotland.

Perhaps his only remaining hope would be to get a transfusion of guid Scottish blood which would entitle him to ask -

wha's like us?

  .................apparantely someone else invented the Mince Pie
 

Not if you live in Ireland

Obviously not .....nevertheless the best single malt whiskys' come from Scotland

[MikeDundee]

Dyson didn't invent cylone based filtration or vaccuming.....all he did was apply its use to a portable vaccum....then fitted a naff motor that has a habit of buring out and loads of complex plastic mouldings to make it fragile.........

 .....He adopted the method and used it on his hoovers