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Abiton

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Help with oil light please
« on: 13 August 2010, 22:10:26 »
So, I'm at a campsite (Nr Brean, Somerset) a fair way from home in Oxfordshire, and for the first time ever, the oil light comes on, and stays on.

Journey down here was fine, but 1 mile out from site this morning, on comes the light. Pulled over and checked level, plenty.  Top end starting to rattle a bit.
Nip back to site gently and call AA.  Local garage dude comes out and reckons the oil pump pickup must be blocked.  I don't have Relay cover, and I don't fancy entrusting it to a local garage, so...

I 'nipped' home on the train, coming back with loads of tools, oil, filters etc in my car.  Got a sump baffle/gasket hopefully coming in to Weston Super-Mare Vx in the morning.

Who's had the single-piece steel sump off an X20XEV, and do you really have to lift the engine off its mounts to do so?

Will I be able to get it off 'enough' without shifting the engine, to see the pickup pipe, and clear it if blocked?

What's the chances it isn't the pickup blocked, and if so what else could be the prob?

All help gratefully received.  :y  Anyone local?  ;)

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Re: Help with oil light please (URGENT)
« Reply #1 on: 13 August 2010, 22:41:46 »
No experience with that engine sadly, anyone?
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Re: Help with oil light please
« Reply #2 on: 13 August 2010, 22:42:48 »
Maybe add urgent to the title?
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Re: Help with oil light please
« Reply #3 on: 13 August 2010, 22:46:23 »
Well, the rattle confirms there is an oil pressure problem so that rules out the switch. Could be a blocked pickup strainer or a stuck pressure relief valve, IMHO. Sometimes you can get at the relief valve from externally (under a plug on the oil pump casting normally). Not familiar enough with the 4 pot to offer much more advice, I'm afraid.

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Re: Help with oil light please
« Reply #4 on: 14 August 2010, 00:02:23 »
I am just wondering if there is any way to "Backflush the pump/pickup. Then you could just do a simple oil change. Perhaps you could tap into a sensor fitting . . .  ::)  Just thinking aloud, any thoughts?
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Re: Help with oil light please
« Reply #5 on: 14 August 2010, 00:06:46 »
Abiton, PM sent :y
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Re: Help with oil light please
« Reply #6 on: 14 August 2010, 00:29:49 »
I am in Bristol, if you require any tools that you dont have, or just need a helping hand, give me a shout (I'll PM you my number now) and I'll pop down to you.  All I ask is that you cover the petrol  :y

I'm available Sat daytime and all day Sunday.
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Re: Help with oil light please
« Reply #7 on: 14 August 2010, 00:48:49 »
I notice you have a 'Select' My first Mig was a 'Select' estate, great car, bought it at 5 years old and had it for 5 years before replacing it with a gls estate ::) Had I known about oof then, we would still have it.. :(
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Re: Help with oil light please
« Reply #8 on: 14 August 2010, 01:13:27 »


strainer unlikely to block up as they are quite coarse.

(just noticed the small print on the piccy.worth a noting)
« Last Edit: 14 August 2010, 01:15:39 by tapper888 »
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Re: Help with oil light please
« Reply #9 on: 14 August 2010, 01:19:51 »
Anyone got a similar type picture for a V6 housing, as I want to check something out.

TIA  :y
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Re: Help with oil light please
« Reply #10 on: 14 August 2010, 01:34:23 »
There are 2 breakers in W-S-M (head for the sea front off the M5 J21 youll see a VX dealer after 2nd Roundabout - Then 3rd roundabout (I think) turn left  behind McDonalds / Pizza hut  down a grotty track sign posted "Harris & son"... they have about 4 omegas (some 2.2 & some V6) In the far one and 5-6 in the other....


http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?cid=777895671869099928&q=harris+bros+car+breakers,+Weston-Super-Mare&gl=uk&hl=en&cd=1&cad=src:pplink&ei=J-ZlTNzSHpKrjAfw96m8DQ

Good luck hope it's not terminal...

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Re: Help with oil light please
« Reply #11 on: 14 August 2010, 08:36:16 »
Hi
If you are at the camp site for another week or so, then consider joining another breakdown club with recovery, not the AA or they may smell a rat.  I always take out recovery on the basis that if I cannot fix it at the side of the road then neither can a man who is not as familiar with my car as I am!!
For the same reason, I avoid the AA & RAC because they always initially send out a man with a van who looks at the car and then comes to the same conclusion as me, that it cannot be fixed at the side of the road.  There is then another hours wait before the recovery truck turns up.  Other operations send the recovery truck in the first instance.
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So, I'm at a campsite (Nr Brean, Somerset) a fair way from home in Oxfordshire, and for the first time ever, the oil light comes on, and stays on.

Journey down here was fine, but 1 mile out from site this morning, on comes the light. Pulled over and checked level, plenty.  Top end starting to rattle a bit.
Nip back to site gently and call AA.  Local garage dude comes out and reckons the oil pump pickup must be blocked.  I don't have Relay cover, and I don't fancy entrusting it to a local garage, so...

I 'nipped' home on the train, coming back with loads of tools, oil, filters etc in my car.  Got a sump baffle/gasket hopefully coming in to Weston Super-Mare Vx in the morning.

Who's had the single-piece steel sump off an X20XEV, and do you really have to lift the engine off its mounts to do so?

Will I be able to get it off 'enough' without shifting the engine, to see the pickup pipe, and clear it if blocked?

What's the chances it isn't the pickup blocked, and if so what else could be the prob?

All help gratefully received.  :y  Anyone local?  ;)

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Re: Help with oil light please
« Reply #12 on: 14 August 2010, 09:55:55 »
Guys, thanks so much for all these helpful replies, and PMs.  Will ask at Vx about the pressure-relief valve, and if they have the 'non-sticking' kit.

Should find out in a minute if Vx have the gasket I need.

Wifi on site is flaky, so apologies if I'm not on much.

Some great help already cheers, now could someone do something about this sodding rain? Ta.
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« Reply #13 on: 14 August 2010, 10:20:29 »
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Some great help already cheers, now could someone do something about this sodding rain? Ta.
 :y 

Sorry - only have "My Naff Code Reader"... Maybe one of the Tech-2 guys can help  ;D
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Re: Help with oil light please
« Reply #14 on: 14 August 2010, 18:09:51 »
^ ;D


Well someone did, 'cos it stopped about lunchtime, just after I got back from Vx in Weston with my gasket.  ;D

Anyway, good news; it lives!

The oil pressure relief valve was my first port of call after topping up to  max, and changing the filter (which was quite grotty considering it was only 2-3K since last changed).  Easy to remove, accessible without any disassembly, in fact after tapping it with a hammer a couple of times it didn't need any grunt to undo.  No fault found, reassembled and tested, no change.  :'(

So I started to undo the bits in the way of sump removal, and then the sump screws, no real grief except crud falling into the eyes/hair continually.  ::)

Once all the screws were out it was a job to break the seal, but it came away eventually without any drama.  Four screws to remove pick-up pipe and there it was, strainer full of crud.  I've got a pic or two which I'll post if I can.


Didn't get sump right off, didn't need to, and didn't use the £40  :o baffle/gasket, as the old one seemed fine.  I'll do it all properly at home sometime v. soon.

Good clear out of pick-up strainer, reassembly of everything, filled up with oil and start.  No oil light!  :y

Still a bit tappy, but I feel sure that will go soon, too busy drinking now to take it out for a proper spin...

Thanks again for the fantastic support, you're all lovely people.   :y
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