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[i260]

So, the EIbach springs, Billie B8's, poly ARB bushes, Lemforrderrs wishbones with poly bush, new drop links, euro car parts top bushes and eibach camber bolts have all been fitted  8-)

The problem is that basically from the get-go there has been a knocking from the drivers side that is most aparent on tar chipped roads at about 30/40mph.

It has been back to the garage who have stripped it back down twice now and assure me that eveything is tight and they cant identify where the noise is coming from.

I can not be totally sure that there was something before but nothing like this volume and persistancy. Not sure if it is new or just that the firmer suspension is magnifying the problem.

The noise is sort of hollow but seems to come back through the steering wheel and there is the occasional 'going light' on bumpy bends.

The only things I can think is that I have a duff bush or bearing or that the shocker is not great on that side.

I am tempted to get the old bushes put back in as a starter to rule that one out.

This is all a massive shame coz the overall transformation is awsome and really subtle.

Any other ideas??

[Jimbob]

no but...

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=85449.0

also ongoing

(edit to point to new site)

[feeutfo]

It won't be the polly bushes causing the lite feeling. Can you give further description of when it happens. Has it been set up yet? Or are you waiting to fix the knock before set up? Which is wise IMO.

Also why does it need camber bolts?

[i260]

sorry for the delay ion replying - log-in probs

Right - firstly I did the adjustable camber bolts because they existed and I figured they must exist to solve a problem and I didnt want to lose the inside edges of my front tyres, not realising that (aparently) the front camber can be adjusted anyway. Oh well, not taking them off now!

Having done nearly 2,000 miles since original fitting I suspect some of the iffy handling traits are simply not good tracking - vague at the straight ahead and a tendancy to get pulled by undulations in the road. Also, the feeling of going light mid corner and then everything catching up a bit later.

With regards to the mystery noise I am still at a loss - it disapears on smooth roads and really gets unplesant on the tar chipped stuff at 30-40mph.

Is there anything in the steering that could have been accentuated by the firmer suspension set up?

Any thoughs?

I am not going to do anything immediatley but if it has not become aparent by the spring then I will be tempted to take the good bits off and change the car over because as it stands it is not an acceptable long term solution. If in changing back parts the noise goes then we have made progress.

I guess I will have to keep an eye on tyre ware and look to get it set up elsewhere maybe.

Anybody in S Wales or Bristol care to meet up and cast an opinion?

[feeutfo]

Well, If you fancy a spin down the m4 to junction 11....?

[i260]

Well, If you fancy a spin down the m4 to junction 11....?

a little further than i was inititaal intending but will keep in mind!

I am starting to think it is a duff shocker... it / they sound weird coming over the pavement to my driveway 

[feeutfo]

I very much doubt you'll get a duff billy.

But without getting under there yourself, or with someone with you you'll never know.

 Are all the parts correct for the car?

Are all the parts done up correctly? I know they said they checked but...

Have correct torque settings been used?

Etc etc, that's s lit if parts to fit. Any one could be loose or incorrect.

Agree jcn11 us too far. But offers there.

[feeutfo]

Should read, that's alot if parts to fit.... Sigh.

[Shackeng]

Should read, that's alot if parts to fit.... Sigh.

Yes this lack of a modify option is a bummer, but no doubt the admins will fix it.

[i260]

I very much doubt you'll get a duff billy.

But without getting under there yourself, or with someone with you you'll never know.

 Are all the parts correct for the car?

Are all the parts done up correctly? I know they said they checked but...

Have correct torque settings been used?

Etc etc, that's s lit if parts to fit. Any one could be loose or incorrect.

Agree jcn11 us too far. But offers there.

Well, it was all fitted and re-fitted by pro garage used to doing omegas (owner has a few himslef) so I expect it to be tight enough.

With regards to getting duff billies - I know three people who have done billies to their cars over the years and all three have either needed to get replacements immediately or have suffered premature degredation. I (possibly foolishly) thought I could not be that unlucky! Maybe they are the best option but only if they manage to produce consistantly decent items?? Koni next time???...

[i260]

Anybody got access to a front strut removal / refit guide as I cant see one in the 'how2' guides.

Particularly the type of socket needed at the top and the torques.

Ta.

[05omegav6]

Anybody got access to a front strut removal / refit guide as I cant see one in the 'how2' guides.

Particularly the type of socket needed at the top and the torques.

Ta.

Off the top of my head, you'll need an offset ring spanner (24mm?) and 10mm? spanner.

Disconnect the brake lines/wiring from the strut, undo drop links, loosen and camber bolts, noting position first. (A quick flash over the bolt heads with a splash of paint is pretty foolproof).

Before you remove the lower bolts, undo the FIRST nut on top of the strut and remove the cover plate.

The strut should then drop slightly, remove the camber bolts and remove the strut assembly from the wheel arch.
Careful as they are heavier than you might think.

To dismantle the strut you'll need a spring compessor. Only once the spring is compressed should you even dream about undoing the second nut on top of the strut. Ignore this at your own risk.

Refit in reverse, ensuring the lower bolts are in the correct place before tightening.

HTH, Al.

[i260]

Cheers - wont be doing this immediately as too much else on my plate at the mo but hopefully sometime next month.

Weirdly I can now also identify the banging / knocking noise coming from the passenger side as well. Not at the same time as the drivers side but the same sort of noise. Hmmmmm, surely both front shox can't be faulty?

[feeutfo]

No, sumats loose IMO.

[i260]

Options HAVE to be:

Poly bush in the Lemfroder wishbones are not working and allowing movement

Rear bush / balljoint in Lemfroder wishbones are not up to much

(Solution to either of these is to go and get my oem wishbones rebushed with some gen or other decent bushes and fit back in)

Eibach adj camber bolts are slipping / gripping

Eurocarparts top bushes / bearings are not up to much - (solution - put old ones back on)

When I drive over the pavement onto my drive there is a disctinct dry rubbery squelchy noise as though the shox are not enjoying the movement, but then it could be the poly bushes as they always make noise when I manouvre on the drive from full lock to full lock (had the same on a Saab9000 with poly bushes).

as stated, springs / shox have been off and on a few times without resolving noise so am happy these are being done tight every time.



Getting close to buying a cheapie to run about in for a bit while i get to work on trying bits on and off the car as it will be way to expensive and time consuming to go back to the garage.