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Re: LED - Fail!
« Reply #15 on: 11 October 2009, 10:48:09 »

LEDs do not really work in the Omega, as it simply wasn't designed for it.

Leaving aside questionable sexuality (;D), the issue is the narrow angle (which diffusers dont really cure) and that blues are all ultrabrights.  The end result is a poorly illuminated dash, and unreadable MID (particularly during daylight), and centre console/climate switches/window switches being dazzlingly bright at night.

The end result just isn't successful
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Re: LED - Fail!
« Reply #16 on: 11 October 2009, 11:31:17 »

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LED full, and bulb full are very different things.
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Agreed! One is a light emitting diode and the other






you plant in the garden at spring!!!  ::)  ;)  ;)  ;)  :y

If anyone was gonna say that, it was always gonna be you, ya daft tart!
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Re: LED - Fail!
« Reply #17 on: 11 October 2009, 11:37:09 »

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LEDs do not really work in the Omega, as it simply wasn't designed for it.

Leaving aside questionable sexuality (;D), the issue is the narrow angle (which diffusers dont really cure) and that blues are all ultrabrights.  The end result is a poorly illuminated dash, and unreadable MID (particularly during daylight), and centre console/climate switches/window switches being dazzlingly bright at night.

The end result just isn't successful

These are some 270 degree wide-angle thingsamabobs, supposed to be the nuts, but they're simply too long to fit the clockset.
Another supplier can help out, but as said, they need to be the ultrabright type. The yellow diffuser would really need removing in the MID, I think, and I wasn't going to attempt the climate/heater lights or switches.
Some of the red LEDs in my Carlton - installed in the switches - are far too bright, so I hear what you're saying there!

I'm not sure what to do now, as I really like the blue effect in my Carlton and wanted this in the Omega, but might leave well alone..........
 :-/ :-/ :-/
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Re: LED - Fail!
« Reply #18 on: 11 October 2009, 11:51:46 »

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 but might leave well alone..........
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Don't fix what's not broke Pete!  ;)  ;) :y
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Re: LED - Fail!
« Reply #19 on: 11 October 2009, 12:27:49 »

But I like a fiddle now and again................
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Re: LED - Fail!
« Reply #20 on: 11 October 2009, 13:06:27 »

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But I like a fiddle now and again................
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We already know from your choice of LED's  ::)
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Re: LED - Fail!
« Reply #21 on: 11 October 2009, 13:33:05 »

Said this before but Blue is the worst color for Dash lighting. VW should never have gone this way.
Because of the wavelength of the blue light the eyes are slower to refocus from near to far-read not safe!.
Why do you think nearly every other car manufacturere over all these years has only ever used white, green or orange/red.
Personally I would want to fit Leds but would go "Ice White", so the Dash wouldn't look as dingy as the dull lighting miggys have currently.
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Re: LED - Fail!
« Reply #22 on: 11 October 2009, 13:55:59 »

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 so the Dash wouldn't look as dingy as the dull lighting miggys have currently.

 .... and I then turn it down to at least half way.  :-/ ;)
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Re: LED - Fail!
« Reply #23 on: 11 October 2009, 15:01:48 »

i have fitted blue leds to my mv6 they look cool got the bulbs from www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk you just need to pick the right ones, i have used a couple of different ones, the ones i am using now are nice and bright and look really good i may try and change the ones in the switches next :)
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Re: LED - Fail!
« Reply #24 on: 11 October 2009, 15:06:27 »

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i have fitted blue leds to my mv6 they look cool got the bulbs from www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk you just need to pick the right ones, i have used a couple of different ones, the ones i am using now are nice and bright and look really good i may try and change the ones in the switches next :)


Think I've sorted it now - the guy at crazy led's has done some digging, so we'll see what happens. He has said that I would need to remove the yellow filter in the MID, but after taking the back off it this morning, I'll pass!

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Re: LED - Fail!
« Reply #25 on: 11 October 2009, 19:44:33 »

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 so the Dash wouldn't look as dingy as the dull lighting miggys have currently.

 .... and I then turn it down to at least half way.  :-/ ;)

Same here, find the dash and CID too bright at night otherwise.

This car had also had 5w bulbs fitted which I changed for the correct 3w ones, 5w far too bright IMHO
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Re: LED - Fail!
« Reply #26 on: 12 October 2009, 00:19:02 »

I bought a full dashboard set from ebay,Ok paid £17.00 inc post which may be a bit ott but everything now has a nice warm red glow,a bit like old Bmw's.I work nights so this time of year my lights are on for over 8 hours at a time. so far no problems at all with the dimmer switch.
Before i bought these i was warned some LED don't like dimmer switches and burn out quickly.
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Re: LED - Fail!
« Reply #27 on: 12 October 2009, 18:00:03 »

These are the ones that are too long for the Omega clocks..

https://www.crazyleds.co.uk/product.php?productid=266&cat=0&page=1



These are what I think would be better for fit and wattage..

https://www.crazyleds.co.uk/product.php?productid=222&cat=0&page=2


Gonna leave the MID bulbs well alone.

Sorry, I can't seem to get the pics to work on here :-[
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Re: LED - Fail!
« Reply #28 on: 13 October 2009, 22:02:42 »

I got a bit of experience with LED's from this site. The bloke that runs the site is very helpful. He's a member on VVOC.com. I got a full dash kit for my Veccy and it was spot on. If its any help i don't know, but the LED's used behind the speedo and RPM clocks in the vec are these https://www.crazyleds.co.uk/product.php?productid=163&cat=67&page=1

Im using the same kit to do my omega over the weekend. The above LED sits in the bigger of the bulb holders, and is more than capable of lighting all it needs too. And it looks S**T HOT at night. I went for white, and was well impressed

It might be too late, but i'll let you know how i get on with it when i do it
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Re: LED - Fail!
« Reply #29 on: 13 October 2009, 22:07:34 »

I thought those would be a bit too bright for me, so opted for the 1W ones.

I have thought about Ice White, but really prefer blue, although I just might look for some orange ones, yet!
The missis like the idea of green LEDs cos her Omega is green - I tried those painted bulbs in hers, and for a week or two it looked good, but the paint burnt off. Have to say that the green looked kinda relaxing!
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