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[Entwood]

The Siemens NCDx range, along with *ALL* car stereos from that era (particularly those that use Philips lasers), all suffer premature laser failure if used with CDRs.  The focusing system is driven harder on CDRs, which tends to burn out the focusing coils.

There are plenty of genuine, original map disks on eGay. Think I paid around £20 for my 2009 disk.  For the sake of that, I'd pay the £20 than shag up yet another laser.


Using top quality branded media (such as Verbatim, or genuine TY), burned at 1x may be less stressful to the lasers, but are still operating them outside of their design specs, and will over stress the coils.  Hence why I need yet another CD Changer for the Rover 

How the **** did you manage that

I keep looking and all I find are things like ..

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vauxhall-UK-IRELAND-2008-NCD-NCDx-NCDR-NCDC-Navteq-Opel_W0QQitemZ200417114634QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CE_GPS_Accessories_Software_ET?hash=item2ea9ca7a0a

or

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Opel-Siemens-VDO-NCDC-NCDR-England-UK-Ireland-2008-2009_W0QQitemZ370275486835QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CE_GPS_Accessories_Software_ET?hash=item5636238c73


nothing ever less than £60  ...

and as I want UK and France .... 

from german ebay ..

http://cgi.ebay.de/Opel-Vectra-Siemens-NCDC-2013-UK-Irland-2008-2009_W0QQitemZ130347728443QQcmdZViewItemQQptZNavigations_CDs_software_1?hash=item1e59547e3b

[TheBoy]

The Siemens NCDx range, along with *ALL* car stereos from that era (particularly those that use Philips lasers), all suffer premature laser failure if used with CDRs.  The focusing system is driven harder on CDRs, which tends to burn out the focusing coils.

There are plenty of genuine, original map disks on eGay. Think I paid around £20 for my 2009 disk.  For the sake of that, I'd pay the £20 than shag up yet another laser.


Using top quality branded media (such as Verbatim, or genuine TY), burned at 1x may be less stressful to the lasers, but are still operating them outside of their design specs, and will over stress the coils.  Hence why I need yet another CD Changer for the Rover 

How the **** did you manage that

I keep looking and all I find are things like ..

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vauxhall-UK-IRELAND-2008-NCD-NCDx-NCDR-NCDC-Navteq-Opel_W0QQitemZ200417114634QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CE_GPS_Accessories_Software_ET?hash=item2ea9ca7a0a

or

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Opel-Siemens-VDO-NCDC-NCDR-England-UK-Ireland-2008-2009_W0QQitemZ370275486835QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CE_GPS_Accessories_Software_ET?hash=item5636238c73


nothing ever less than £60  ...

and as I want UK and France .... 

from german ebay ..

http://cgi.ebay.de/Opel-Vectra-Siemens-NCDC-2013-UK-Irland-2008-2009_W0QQitemZ130347728443QQcmdZViewItemQQptZNavigations_CDs_software_1?hash=item1e59547e3b

they do come up time to time

[Mr Hagon]

Just checked navteq.com and it looks like they're doing a £5 off for orders before 15th Jan, so that would take the cost down to £64.

But I guess keeping an eye out for one on eBay could mean you get it a bit cheaper  .

[NickA]

Just checked navteq.com and it looks like they're doing a £5 off for orders before 15th Jan, so that would take the cost down to £64.

But I guess keeping an eye out for one on eBay could mean you get it a bit cheaper  .

But they seem to be offering the out of date 2008/2009 Disc  :-?

http://tinyurl.com/yfnatgc

Any new features on the 2009/2010 CD?

[Mr Hagon]

Just checked navteq.com and it looks like they're doing a £5 off for orders before 15th Jan, so that would take the cost down to £64.

But I guess keeping an eye out for one on eBay could mean you get it a bit cheaper  .

But they seem to be offering the out of date 2008/2009 Disc  :-?

http://tinyurl.com/yfnatgc

Any new features on the 2009/2010 CD?

Fair point, couldn't check out the eBay links at work earlier.  Makes a bit of a mockery that you can get a newer CD not from the manufacturer's site  .

[feeutfo]

only ever map upgrades. Functionality is the same....

[TheBoy]

Just checked navteq.com and it looks like they're doing a £5 off for orders before 15th Jan, so that would take the cost down to £64.

But I guess keeping an eye out for one on eBay could mean you get it a bit cheaper  .

But they seem to be offering the out of date 2008/2009 Disc  :-?

http://tinyurl.com/yfnatgc

Any new features on the 2009/2010 CD?

As Siemens no longer develop this system, there will be no feature updates. Only map updates.

Last feature update was around 2004, to support TMC (which won't work in UK anyway).

[CaptainZok]

The Siemens NCDx range, along with *ALL* car stereos from that era (particularly those that use Philips lasers), all suffer premature laser failure if used with CDRs.  The focusing system is driven harder on CDRs, which tends to burn out the focusing coils.

There are plenty of genuine, original map disks on eGay. Think I paid around £20 for my 2009 disk.  For the sake of that, I'd pay the £20 than shag up yet another laser.


Using top quality branded media (such as Verbatim, or genuine TY), burned at 1x may be less stressful to the lasers, but are still operating them outside of their design specs, and will over stress the coils.  Hence why I need yet another CD Changer for the Rover 

Mrs TB been overdoing it with the ABBA collection again?

[TheBoy]

The Siemens NCDx range, along with *ALL* car stereos from that era (particularly those that use Philips lasers), all suffer premature laser failure if used with CDRs.  The focusing system is driven harder on CDRs, which tends to burn out the focusing coils.

There are plenty of genuine, original map disks on eGay. Think I paid around £20 for my 2009 disk.  For the sake of that, I'd pay the £20 than shag up yet another laser.


Using top quality branded media (such as Verbatim, or genuine TY), burned at 1x may be less stressful to the lasers, but are still operating them outside of their design specs, and will over stress the coils.  Hence why I need yet another CD Changer for the Rover 

Mrs TB been overdoing it with the ABBA collection again?

I used her car the other day. Seeing as I can't stand Terry Wogan, I went for the CD Players. The only 2 disks that would work? Abba and bloody Abba. Jeez.