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[cem_devecioglu]

well stats state that most crashes are from the under 25's and most under 25's want a manual car so by the stats more crashes per manual than auto

so in typical jeremy clarkson style..........

we have proved that manual cars are dangerous and you should purchase an auto! 

to drive like miss daisy

[mantagte]

im 42 and prefer manual no accidents though

[TheBoy]

i just specifically meant the one handed driving example 

Drive a manual properly, and you'll have both hands on the wheel during a manouver.

As to cruising, I bet as many manual owners do this as auto owners.

Though a manual gives ultimate control, and control=safety

[Lazydocker]

Personally it's auto all the way for me, but I prefer the control of a manual

I tend to use my auto box like a manual when it comes to going down the gears anyway, although it still decides if it wants to give you the gear you want

[Webby the Bear]

well stats state that most crashes are from the under 25's and most under 25's want a manual car so by the stats more crashes per manual than auto

so in typical jeremy clarkson style..........

we have proved that manual cars are dangerous and you should purchase an auto! 

to drive like miss daisy

haha autos aint that slow 

besides the manual box will be gone in the not too distant future. semi auto will take over imo 

[TheBoy]

well stats state that most crashes are from the under 25's and most under 25's want a manual car so by the stats more crashes per manual than auto

so in typical jeremy clarkson style..........

we have proved that manual cars are dangerous and you should purchase an auto! 

to drive like miss daisy

haha autos aint that slow 

besides the manual box will be gone in the not too distant future. semi auto will take over imo 

Lets hope not, worse of both options rolled into one

[Webby the Bear]

i just specifically meant the one handed driving example 

Drive a manual properly, and you'll have both hands on the wheel during a manouver.

As to cruising, I bet as many manual owners do this as auto owners.

Though a manual gives ultimate control, and control=safety

i disagree.  yes, driving it properly should give you full control but of course being human we are prone to human error however good a driver we are. and of course with the manual, yes you can get speed exactly as you want it but not two hands on the wheel all the time. swings and roundabouts.

sorry, dont understand the second bit. obviously auto is go and stop so no cruising in neutral as is poss with manual 

[Lazydocker]

i just specifically meant the one handed driving example 

Drive a manual properly, and you'll have both hands on the wheel during a manouver.

As to cruising, I bet as many manual owners do this as auto owners.

Though a manual gives ultimate control, and control=safety

i disagree.  yes, driving it properly should give you full control but of course being human we are prone to human error however good a driver we are. and of course with the manual, yes you can get speed exactly as you want it but not two hands on the wheel all the time. swings and roundabouts.

sorry, dont understand the second bit. obviously auto is go and stop so no cruising in neutral as is poss with manual 

But the auto doesn't give the same degree of engine braking unless you force it

[TheBoy]

i just specifically meant the one handed driving example 

Drive a manual properly, and you'll have both hands on the wheel during a manouver.

As to cruising, I bet as many manual owners do this as auto owners.

Though a manual gives ultimate control, and control=safety

i disagree.  yes, driving it properly should give you full control but of course being human we are prone to human error however good a driver we are. and of course with the manual, yes you can get speed exactly as you want it but not two hands on the wheel all the time. swings and roundabouts.

sorry, dont understand the second bit. obviously auto is go and stop so no cruising in neutral as is poss with manual 

Not if driven properly whilst negotiating obstacles.


Having a solid connection between engine and driven wheels will always be safer than having a fluid coupling in between, for those days when power will get you out of harms way.

[Vamps]

i just specifically meant the one handed driving example 

Drive a manual properly, and you'll have both hands on the wheel during a manouver.

As to cruising, I bet as many manual owners do this as auto owners.

Though a manual gives ultimate control, and control=safety

i disagree.  yes, driving it properly should give you full control but of course being human we are prone to human error however good a driver we are. and of course with the manual, yes you can get speed exactly as you want it but not two hands on the wheel all the time. swings and roundabouts.

sorry, dont understand the second bit. obviously auto is go and stop so no cruising in neutral as is poss with manual 

You are not in control of the vehicle doing that.......

[cem_devecioglu]

try them both on a track where your speed drops and increases several times.. you will see the timing difference..
anyway its an 8 bit chip..
 
but if we were talking on a smg box, debate would be interesting.. those boxes have launch option which you can hardly control like it.. but I would still prefer manual

[Webby the Bear]

i just specifically meant the one handed driving example 

Drive a manual properly, and you'll have both hands on the wheel during a manouver.

As to cruising, I bet as many manual owners do this as auto owners.

Though a manual gives ultimate control, and control=safety

i disagree.  yes, driving it properly should give you full control but of course being human we are prone to human error however good a driver we are. and of course with the manual, yes you can get speed exactly as you want it but not two hands on the wheel all the time. swings and roundabouts.

sorry, dont understand the second bit. obviously auto is go and stop so no cruising in neutral as is poss with manual 

Not if driven properly whilst negotiating obstacles.


Having a solid connection between engine and driven wheels will always be safer than having a fluid coupling in between, for those days when power will get you out of harms way.

but then should crappy slow little euro boxes like kia picanto's be banned then? e.g. a manual kia picanto (1 litre or whatever they are) vs my auto omega. irrespective of whether he was in the right gear or not i'd put money on my mig out performing that in every way whether going round a bend, up a hill or standing start.............

[Webby the Bear]

i just specifically meant the one handed driving example 

Drive a manual properly, and you'll have both hands on the wheel during a manouver.

As to cruising, I bet as many manual owners do this as auto owners.

Though a manual gives ultimate control, and control=safety

i disagree.  yes, driving it properly should give you full control but of course being human we are prone to human error however good a driver we are. and of course with the manual, yes you can get speed exactly as you want it but not two hands on the wheel all the time. swings and roundabouts.

sorry, dont understand the second bit. obviously auto is go and stop so no cruising in neutral as is poss with manual 

You are not in control of the vehicle doing that.......

thats my point vamps..... you cant do this in an auto 

[TheBoy]

i just specifically meant the one handed driving example 

Drive a manual properly, and you'll have both hands on the wheel during a manouver.

As to cruising, I bet as many manual owners do this as auto owners.

Though a manual gives ultimate control, and control=safety

i disagree.  yes, driving it properly should give you full control but of course being human we are prone to human error however good a driver we are. and of course with the manual, yes you can get speed exactly as you want it but not two hands on the wheel all the time. swings and roundabouts.

sorry, dont understand the second bit. obviously auto is go and stop so no cruising in neutral as is poss with manual 

Not if driven properly whilst negotiating obstacles.


Having a solid connection between engine and driven wheels will always be safer than having a fluid coupling in between, for those days when power will get you out of harms way.

but then should crappy slow little euro boxes like kia picanto's be banned then? e.g. a manual kia picanto (1 litre or whatever they are) vs my auto omega. irrespective of whether he was in the right gear or not i'd put money on my mig out performing that in every way whether going round a bend, up a hill or standing start.............

WTF?

Now you are comparing cheap, economical, budget runarounds with a 30 grand executive 200bhp saloon 


For the record, around town, I'd put my Rover 25 (manual) up against your Omega (auto) and probably embarrass you

[TheBoy]

i just specifically meant the one handed driving example 

Drive a manual properly, and you'll have both hands on the wheel during a manouver.

As to cruising, I bet as many manual owners do this as auto owners.

Though a manual gives ultimate control, and control=safety

i disagree.  yes, driving it properly should give you full control but of course being human we are prone to human error however good a driver we are. and of course with the manual, yes you can get speed exactly as you want it but not two hands on the wheel all the time. swings and roundabouts.

sorry, dont understand the second bit. obviously auto is go and stop so no cruising in neutral as is poss with manual 

You are not in control of the vehicle doing that.......

thats my point vamps..... you cant do this in an auto 

/panto mode

Oh yes you can.