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[Webby the Bear]

hi guys,

got in to an interesting discussion at work today with a friend.

the auto vs manual debate came up and we chatted about the advantages and disadvantages of each.

he then made a comment that automatics, although very easy to drive, can promote bad driving habits e.g. just lazing back driving one handed. i then said if thats true then aren't manuals dangerous bearing in mind you're taking your hand off the wheel a lot to change gear.

we then talked about a guy we went on a trip with who cruised up to a roundabout in 4th. foot on clutch to ''coast'' to the roundabout entrance. saw that it was clear, got on the roundabout, forgot to change gear and only noticed when he applied the accelerator. he then had to quickly shift from 4th to 2nd whilst steering round the round about 1 handed. it definitely felt unsafe.

your thoughts please.

ps, dont want to turn this in to a squabbling fest. just a discussion 

[cem_devecioglu]

I discovered that autos create more danger if you are an impatient driver and take over frequently..
 
under those conditions autos response are slow and sometimes cause danger..
 
but a normal driver probably wont face it..

[mantagte]

imo they are only as dangerous as the driver input

[Webby the Bear]

I discovered that autos create more danger if you are an impatient driver and take over frequently..
 
under those conditions autos response are slow and sometimes cause danger..
 
but a normal driver probably wont face it..

not with sports mode engaged 

but to be fair thats a slightly different thang. i just specifically meant the one handed driving example 

[blackviper90210]

I don't think auto's or manual's are more dangerous than the other..  its the driver that allows him or herself to drop basic driving skills and put either themselves or others in danger.

I enjoy manual driving as I feel that is what driving is about, BUT I've had a few autos' (always Omega's) and love them just as much. It really depends on what sort of driving experience you want or prefer.

They are both as good or as bad as you want them to be 

[Webby the Bear]

I don't think auto's or manual's are more dangerous than the other..  its the driver that allows him or herself to drop basic driving skills and put either themselves or others in danger.

I enjoy manual driving as I feel that is what driving is about, BUT I've had a few autos' (always Omega's) and love them just as much. It really depends on what sort of driving experience you want or prefer.

They are both as good or as bad as you want them to be 

very true mate very true.

however with an auto you can keep two hands on't wheel at all time........

[TheBoy]

Well designed, well maintained cars aren't dangerous. Its the organic prick in the driving seat....

[blackviper90210]

Well designed, well maintained cars aren't dangerous. Its the organic prick in the driving seat....

 

[justjohn]

Its the organic prick in the driving seat....

Don't sit on the fence 

[hotel21]

Replace the airbag with a 9 inch surgical steel spike.  That should waken folks up behind the wheel, irrespective of manual or auto!

[Webby the Bear]

i'd be interested to see stats on crashes of auto cars vs manual ones. relative to the amount of manual / auto cars on the road of course

[mantagte]

well stats state that most crashes are from the under 25's and most under 25's want a manual car so by the stats more crashes per manual than auto

[cem_devecioglu]

well stats state that most crashes are from the under 25's and most under 25's want a manual car so by the stats more crashes per manual than auto

thats normal.. but if you try to drive an auto car like a manual thats more dangerous and stats dont tell this

[Webby the Bear]

well stats state that most crashes are from the under 25's and most under 25's want a manual car so by the stats more crashes per manual than auto

so in typical jeremy clarkson style..........

we have proved that manual cars are dangerous and you should purchase an auto! 

[cem_devecioglu]

I discovered that autos create more danger if you are an impatient driver and take over frequently..
 
under those conditions autos response are slow and sometimes cause danger..
 
but a normal driver probably wont face it..

not with sports mode engaged 

but to be fair thats a slightly different thang. i just specifically meant the one handed driving example 

even with sports mode, been there done that.. depending on your speed, autobox locks up after some silly speed..
 
its like accelerating with the half clutch..