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[aaronjb]

Is it 1940 again?

Yup.

http://euobserver.com/19/114075

I'll just quote the attention grabbing (and possibly slightly sensationalist headline):

Merkel wants 'permanent' supervision of Greece, warns of war

[Kevin Wood]

Is it 1940 again?

Yup.

http://euobserver.com/19/114075

I'll just quote the attention grabbing (and possibly slightly sensationalist headline):

Merkel wants 'permanent' supervision of Greece, warns of war

Welcome to the fourth reich.

Best we start casting Merlin blocks again ASAP.

[Varche]

The heady euphoria of this morning has now worn off.

I now believe we are saved but we will be back here in 12 to 24 months time. 

Why? well firstly I can't see where any of this growth is coming from that is needed to fill the exchequer coffers etc. Is unemployemnt increasing or decreasing? Are companies confident?
Secondly when governments go back to their people and say these are the austerity measures we agreed to implement (unbeknown to you drones) in order to save the euro, the drones of Italy and other countries will rebel like the Greeks.

One further thought. Has anyone seen anyone from UKIP on TV these last few days capitalising on the dire euro situation?

[Varche]

Is it 1940 again?

Yup.

http://euobserver.com/19/114075

I'll just quote the attention grabbing (and possibly slightly sensationalist headline):

Merkel wants 'permanent' supervision of Greece, warns of war

Welcome to the fourth reich.

Best we start casting Merlin blocks again ASAP.

Good idea but haven't we lost the skills to do that? We would have to outsource to somewhere like..... Germany, like we had to to build the recent new Steam loco!

[cleggy]

Looks like they're going cap in hand to the chinese well the Yanks did.
I wonder if they charge for delivery

[aaronjb]

Looks like they're going cap in hand to the chinese well the Yanks did.
I wonder if they charge for delivery

It's usually £1, isn't it?

[Kevin Wood]

One further thought. Has anyone seen anyone from UKIP on TV these last few days capitalising on the dire euro situation?

Farage was on Radio 4 yesterday morning IIRC. Seemed to make light work of rubbishing any pro-EU representations, not that that's too hard at the moment.

[Nickbat]

One further thought. Has anyone seen anyone from UKIP on TV these last few days capitalising on the dire euro situation?

Nigel Farage is on Question Time tonight, I believe. 

[Marks DTM Calib]

Is it 1940 again?

Yup.

http://euobserver.com/19/114075

I'll just quote the attention grabbing (and possibly slightly sensationalist headline):

Merkel wants 'permanent' supervision of Greece, warns of war

Welcome to the fourth reich.

Best we start casting Merlin blocks again ASAP.

Good idea but haven't we lost the skills to do that? We would have to outsource to somewhere like..... Germany, like we had to to build the recent new Steam loco!

We thankfuly have plenty of casting capability and could probably produce the entire second world wars consumption of blocks in a few months from only one or two plants.

And the steam loco boiler was the only thing made abroad for Tornado and for good reason.....the eastern block were still making steam locos into the 80's and had developed boiler design to support welded units which are more robust (we cant do this here as we have not developed and proven the technology for steam based mobile pressure vessels).

[albitz]

Merkels comment "we cant take for granted another 50 years of peace in Europe" (or words very similar to that) are utterly disgraceful. It was a thibly disguised threat,and one which should make her an outcast in her own country and evry other country.
 

[Sir Tigger KC]

Their trying to raise money from the Chinese, who obviously hold all the cards!    I wonder what their terms will be? More favourable trade deals with the EU? the lowering of tariffs? etc or will they want to take more direct action in return for aid as they do in Africa, ie Chinese firms building infrastructure with Chinese workers? 

This also made me laugh, their not negotiating with the Chinese, their consulting....

 " Beijing has made it clear that it will demand strong guarantees on the safety of any contribution it might make. "

 " Mr Regling, who is chief executive of the European Financial Stability Facility (EFSF), said he was not negotiating with China as a potential investor but holding consultations to decide the terms for raising the money."   BBC 28/10/11

 

[aaronjb]

Speaking of the EU.. seems we might all be observing CET (Central European Time) soon, and giving up GMT..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15490249

It would see the UK adopt Central European Time, with BST plus one hour in summer and GMT plus one in winter.

Anything to make it easier for Merkel's EU Army to match in, eh?

[aaronjb]

Er, 'march in', obviously.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Another interesting take on the situation from the Daily Mail.... 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2054564/EU-summit-Not-solving-eurozone-crisis-designed-fail.html

[Nickbat]

http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/12611732/the-european-bailout-explained