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Re: Winter Tyres
« Reply #15 on: 04 February 2012, 22:36:23 »

never use winter tyres myself and never had a problem

I refer to the comments in the opening post - not helpful!
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Yes I am on 225/55/16

I hav got through the last 3 winters fine on summer sport 225 so I am not going to go narrower and smaller rolling radius.

Yes - I have just discovered that UG8 are not available in the 16.

other ideas??

winter tires have to be narrower.. ask anyone who drives on snow , will give this answer..

Whats the recommended options from Vx in the manual then??
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Re: Winter Tyres
« Reply #16 on: 04 February 2012, 22:44:16 »

"All tyre sizes given here may be used as winter tyres"

Hmmm.........................
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Re: Winter Tyres
« Reply #17 on: 04 February 2012, 22:46:10 »

True enough, but narrower tyres work better on snow.
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Re: Winter Tyres
« Reply #18 on: 04 February 2012, 22:46:32 »

For Y26SE the tyre options are, according to handbook:

205/65/15
225/55/16
235/45/17
195/65/15 (M&S)
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Re: Winter Tyres
« Reply #19 on: 04 February 2012, 22:50:45 »

True enough, but narrower tyres work better on snow.

I can understand that but we will probably have 3 days of snow a year so I could sacrifice un petit bit of ultimateness in snow for the rest of the winter where it is just a little frosty / cold.

As said, it is all relative to current experience...

Back on track of the post - any suggestions / experiences of a 225/55/16 winter (ish) tyre.

Nokian WR A3 has also been suggested to me.
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Re: Winter Tyres
« Reply #20 on: 04 February 2012, 22:52:14 »

never use winter tyres myself and never had a problem

I refer to the comments in the opening post - not helpful!
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Yes I am on 225/55/16

I hav got through the last 3 winters fine on summer sport 225 so I am not going to go narrower and smaller rolling radius.

Yes - I have just discovered that UG8 are not available in the 16.

other ideas??

winter tires have to be narrower.. ask anyone who drives on snow , will give this answer..

cem, you have a valid point, but if I were to use a winter tyre that is not approved by the manufacturer in terms of size as listed above, then my insurance is invalid. Therefore I moved down from 17 MV6 alloys to 16 CD alloys and am using the prescribed size which in turn means that I am driving legally. On the other hand if I use 205 or whatever smaller sizes that you have suggested, it is an issue that my insurers will try to wriggle out of in the event of a claim. I would suggest the OP look at the 2 options I have provided, both of them are class leading tyres, both at a very reasonable price. If they are available and in stock I would suggest you hurry and get a pair ASAP! I am sure with the snowfall there will be an exodus to buy the remaining stock up.
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Re: Winter Tyres
« Reply #21 on: 04 February 2012, 22:54:18 »

And yes I have used both of them and currently am using Dunlop 4D, because I couldnt get hold of the ones I have listed when I was looking to buy. The Conti is a fantastic tyre and I am surprised it only costs £124. Last time I looked they were about £150.

I don't recommend all weather tyres unless you have absolutely no space to store a second set.
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Re: Winter Tyres
« Reply #22 on: 04 February 2012, 23:16:14 »

True enough, but narrower tyres work better on snow.

I can understand that but we will probably have 3 days of snow a year so I could sacrifice un petit bit of ultimateness in snow for the rest of the winter where it is just a little frosty / cold.

As said, it is all relative to current experience...

Back on track of the post - any suggestions / experiences of a 225/55/16 winter (ish) tyre.

Nokian WR A3 has also been suggested to me.

nokian wr series ok.. goodyear ultragrip extreme ok.. conti ts 830 ok..contiicecontact ok..
 
but 225 size for winter is really  weird ;D
 
imo talk to your insurance, some (as I posted before from honest john UK) insurance firms even claim you must not use them and charge extra ??? :P
 
ps: for combined ice,snow,wet(rain) performance UG8 very good.. conti models are more directed towards ice,snow..
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Re: Winter Tyres
« Reply #23 on: 04 February 2012, 23:25:42 »

must add dunlop 4d is also very good ..  :y
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Re: Winter Tyres
« Reply #24 on: 04 February 2012, 23:34:43 »

True enough, but narrower tyres work better on snow.

I can understand that but we will probably have 3 days of snow a year so I could sacrifice un petit bit of ultimateness in snow for the rest of the winter where it is just a little frosty / cold.

As said, it is all relative to current experience...

Back on track of the post - any suggestions / experiences of a 225/55/16 winter (ish) tyre.

Nokian WR A3 has also been suggested to me.

nokian wr series ok.. goodyear ultragrip extreme ok.. conti ts 830 ok..contiicecontact ok..
 
but 225 size for winter is really  weird ;D
 
imo talk to your insurance, some (as I posted before from honest john UK) insurance firms even claim you must not use them and charge extra ??? :P
 
ps: for combined ice,snow,wet(rain) performance UG8 very good.. conti models are more directed towards ice,snow..

As I said earlier, my insurance only want to know that I have winter tyres on an will not charge more.

As for 225 being 'weird' vauxhall dont spec another size option so in my eyes that is what I haveto stick to.

If it were my call then 225/55/16 on a 7 inch rim was lunacy in the first place but then vx do some REALLY weird calls on putting tyres too wide for their rims (205 on 6.5j on astras or yore!!!) - I digress but you get my point!

As I asked in the first place, simply some views one tred patterns to chose from, nowt else please!
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Re: Winter Tyres
« Reply #25 on: 04 February 2012, 23:42:13 »


As I said earlier, my insurance only want to know that I have winter tyres on an will not charge more.

As for 225 being 'weird' vauxhall dont spec another size option so in my eyes that is what I haveto stick to.

If it were my call then 225/55/16 on a 7 inch rim was lunacy in the first place but then vx do some REALLY weird calls on putting tyres too wide for their rims (205 on 6.5j on astras or yore!!!) - I digress but you get my point!

As I asked in the first place, simply some views one tred patterns to chose from, nowt else please!

I would agree. From the article regarding winter tyres and insurance:

Each insurer has a slightly different approach to winter tyres, and so the Association of British Insurers (ABI) has published a list of insurers and their different policies regarding winter tyres.

None of the insurers in the list charge an extra premium when winter tyres are fitted, provided that the tyres meet, and are fitted in accordance with, the relevant vehicle manufacturers’ specifications and are in a roadworthy condition whilst in use.
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Re: Winter Tyres
« Reply #26 on: 04 February 2012, 23:42:49 »

ok 225 size
 
test order
 
best for ice (ice+snow, wet perf weak)
contiicecontact
nokian hakkapelita 7
nokian wrA3
extreme(goodyear)
 
combined (ice+snow+wet)
dunlop 4d
goodyear ultragrip performance 2
conti TS830
ps: important those tires with combined option is really weak on (pure) ice compared to ice models perf rating nearly (1/4, 1/5)  ??? 
 
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Re: Winter Tyres
« Reply #27 on: 04 February 2012, 23:48:23 »

I would like to make a drag on ice with a 3.2 installed with 225 against my 2.5 installed 195 ;D  in front of those insurers ;)
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Re: Winter Tyres
« Reply #28 on: 04 February 2012, 23:58:57 »

ok 225 size
 
test order
 
best for ice (ice+snow, wet perf weak-really weak))
contiicecontact
nokian hakkapelita 7
nokian wrA3
extreme(goodyear)
 
combined (ice+snow+wet)
dunlop 4d
goodyear ultragrip performance 2
conti TS830
ps: important those tires with combined option is really weak on (pure) ice compared to ice models perf rating nearly (1/4, 1/5???
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Re: Winter Tyres
« Reply #29 on: 05 February 2012, 00:03:41 »

so as a conclusion, if you are living in a hilly-icy area 
 
for rears  ice model tires(and promise to drive slow in rain)
fronts combined model tires             
 
     
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