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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Bionic on 25 June 2012, 06:24:59
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>:( Once again it has come to pass what I expected to happen. The matches first 3 minutes was brilliant, the rest of the match was a joke. After watching the story hearing the comments made by Hodgson ( England Team Coach) this morning and other comments made by the so called players after the debacle of a penalty shoot out against Italy it brought to my attention that if there is but one thing that the team are good at, both past and present, is that of coming up with excuses as to why they lost. I say lost because that is what it was, they were no where near good enough despite their luxury lifestyle and way over the top salaries they missed many opportunities and to all intents and purposes were no more 'tired' before the penalty shootout began than the Italian team were! It is time that the so called team, and a team it is not because too many believe they are the sole star of the game, got its act together or stopped playing as a team altogether. Rooney, that highly prized one said he was disappointed! Disappointed does not even come anywhere close to how the supporters feel who had spent so much of their hard earned and probably ill affordable funds to get there and support this once again team of losers............ This team of losers should be paid what they are really worth, the basic living wage most of the country get because they are worth only (if) that.
In fact now I will no longer watch the 'beautiful game' because one thing is certain: It is not beautiful to watch a slaughter like that debacle and it is spreading throughout the whole of the game when played by this country. If the players wish to be idolised then they should begin to deserve it! A final question.... Are the players interested or concerned that many supporters have spent money they could ill afford or will they be interested only in the 'fame' they did not achieve?
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Oh ffs, give it a break will you ::) ::)
The lads give it a good go and was proved not to be good enough ::) ::)
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>:( Once again it has come to pass what I expected to happen. The matches first 3 minutes was brilliant, the rest of the match was a joke. After watching the story hearing the comments made by Hodgson ( England Team Coach) this morning and other comments made by the so called players after the debacle of a penalty shoot out against Italy it brought to my attention that if there is but one thing that the team are good at, both past and present, is that of coming up with excuses as to why they lost. I say lost because that is what it was, they were no where near good enough despite their luxury lifestyle and way over the top salaries they missed many opportunities and to all intents and purposes were no more 'tired' before the penalty shootout began than the Italian team were! It is time that the so called team, and a team it is not because too many believe they are the sole star of the game, got its act together or stopped playing as a team altogether. Rooney, that highly prized one said he was disappointed! Disappointed does not even come anywhere close to how the supporters feel who had spent so much of their hard earned and probably ill affordable funds to get there and support this once again team of losers............ This team of losers should be paid what they are really worth, the basic living wage most of the country get because they are worth only (if) that.
In fact now I will no longer watch the 'beautiful game' because one thing is certain: It is not beautiful to watch a slaughter like that debacle and it is spreading throughout the whole of the game when played by this country. If the players wish to be idolised then they should begin to deserve it! A final question.... Are the players interested or concerned that many supporters have spent money they could ill afford or will they be interested only in the 'fame' they did not achieve?
That'll be the choice of the supporters then. And a wild presumption on your part. I would imagine that many supporters could afford it, hence them being there.
Nevertheless, England did not play well after the 30 minutes mark or thereabouts, but it also has to be said, credit to Italy. They were good. Better and better as time went by. Although some of the England players did not have remarkable games, some made sterling efforts and played very well.
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It's not as if there was much expectation from this England side before the tournament though, and I would never have thought that they could hold Italy to a draw before the game to be fair. Most of the England supporters must have known this and still spent their money supporting them, to their credit.
But it has shown that English football is a good few centuries behind the likes of Spain and Germany. We need to be honest with ourselves and start to catch up if we're ever going to come close to winning a tournament again IMHO
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It's not as if there was much expectation from this England side before the tournament though, and I would never have thought that they could hold Italy to a draw before the game to be fair. Most of the England supporters must have known this and still spent their money supporting them, to their credit.
But it has shown that English football is a good few centuries behind the likes of Spain and Germany. We need to be honest with ourselves and start to catch up if we're ever going to come close to winning a tournament again IMHO
Agree with you there mate :y
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first well done England I for one didn't think that we would do as well as we did I couldn't see them getting out of the group :)
second I blame the fact there are far too few home grown players simply because of too many foreign players in premiership, I think clubs are to quick to snap up foreign players and over looking some real English talent, but that's just my opinion :)
well done also to the English fans who travelled and behaved themselves not fighting, many a time do they go abroad and cause trouble in the eyes of the media when it's not usually them that start the trouble, I think when trouble does start it is some media guys that pretend to be fans just to start a fight to sell papers :)
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So yes England lost on penalties yet again..... :'( and everyone is now slagging England off and saying how fantastic Italy are..... ::)
But the fact is that they couldn't beat us in open play.... :)
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It's not as if there was much expectation from this England side before the tournament though, and I would never have thought that they could hold Italy to a draw before the game to be fair. Most of the England supporters must have known this and still spent their money supporting them, to their credit.
But it has shown that English football is a good few centuries behind the likes of Spain and Germany. We need to be honest with ourselves and start to catch up if we're ever going to come close to winning a tournament again IMHO
they want to stop paying the high wages and make them work for a place in the team they play as if they dont want to be there :y :y
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first well done England I for one didn't think that we would do as well as we did I couldn't see them getting out of the group :)
second I blame the fact there are far too few home grown players simply because of too many foreign players in premiership, I think clubs are to quick to snap up foreign players and over looking some real English talent, but that's just my opinion :)
well done also to the English fans who travelled and behaved themselves not fighting, many a time do they go abroad and cause trouble in the eyes of the media when it's not usually them that start the trouble, I think when trouble does start it is some media guys that pretend to be fans just to start a fight to sell papers :)
hear hear :y
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I would like them to play on till one side scored a goal, no matter how long it took.
There is something rather strange about our success rate in penalty shoot outs. Sixth time out on penalties since 1990? I can't believe that the guys don't practice. I would imagine that the team each took hundreds of successful penalties in the build up to the tournament. If they didn't that could be the first place to start. A hundred each morning and no pay till each person achieves a 90% success rate.
Two years till the World Cup?
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Personally, I though England, did as well as could be expected with the current crop of players. My expectation was that they would do well to get out of the group stages, which to their credit, they did with the most points and then lose in the quarter finals, which they did, but they battled all the way to penalties. We are in the top 5 to 10 teams in Europe, not the top 5.
I thought the Italy match was finely balanced for the first 20 minutes and from that that point the Italians asserted themselves more and more, but England still created the odd threat and opportunity.
We have to accept that our system for producing world class talent is lacking and that is down the FA to resolve this with their new Football Academy.
The team IMHO gave it their all and you could not ask anymore from them. I though some of the players played consistently well, Gerrard, Parker, Terry, Glen Johnston, Joe Hart spring to mind. We need more talented individuals in the team, some of the younger players need more experience at this level, our clubs need to be much more positive over friendlies as this is one of the few opportunities for the team to practice.
Personally, I think Roy Hodgson had a good first tournament, so lets get behind him and support him in improving the team, qualifying for the 2014 World Cup and hopefully starting to bridge the gap so we become one of the world's very best top teams.
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They did practice their penalties this time apparently, or so the commentator said anyway. Same old result though....
As Ashley Young stepped up, I said to the missus that he was going to miss - he was absolutely appalling in that match. Didn't expect Cole to miss though, he's an arse, but a good player :-\
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Ashley Young should never have been in the team after the first game him and Milner were absolute garbage call themselves wingers more like w@"Łers.Once Rooney was available to play it should have been Carroll and Welbeck up front and Rooney in the hole behind them,1 penalty shoot out win from seven,instead of playing for penalties Hodgson should have gone for the win in 90 mins,as we were never going to win on pens.
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Anyone notice our performance went down the crapper when Rooney was added ::)
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Anyone notice our performance went down the crapper when Rooney was added ::)
i always said he is crap :y
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Could I just remind you that thay are NOT paid to play for England. Wether they are overpaid in there day job is another matter.
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Roy had said that they had practised penalties but like he said in practice you can't replicate the atmosphere or the players tiredness. also ashley Coles penalty was saved so credit must go to Buffon who saved it :)
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Probably just as well we are out really, saves us the humiliation of being totally hammered by the Germans.
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didnt watch the game.. :-\
but in my opinion whatever italians win, they dont deserve!! some years ago they beat brasil by a poor game, they only stand in defence..
and brasil had a bad goal keeper.. they only came 3 times and all 3 ended with goal..
macaronis dont play well .. I have no doubt about it..
and as for professionals.. build an amateur team, you will see it will be more successful in world cup..
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tigers-gonads Why the use of ffs??????? We all know what it stands for unless yopu can explain that its usual meaning is not the one you meant? Why do you feel the need to use uncalled for abrieviated foul language?
Its high time that this forum was cleaned up a little and the use of this type of language curtailed and also penalised considering that there are bound to be other members who are a bit shy to make any adverse comment about this now very common abrieviated expletive useage by a minority of the more 'senior' members. Why do some of the more senior members not set an example to the more junior ones?
Why do I need to give it (?) a rest anyway? My comments were valid considering that the so called best 'stars' of the England team were playing and once again, as usual were not up the task! Aim your anger and frustration at the players who are little more than a waste of the supporters money yet expect to continue to be supported. Every single match that the England team lose we are given the usual waffle about this that or the other being the reason. Its never that they were simply NOT GOOD ENOUGH! Why is it always the manager who suffers? He is not the one who is playing! My original comments stand and it appears that others also support that viewpoint.
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New signing required.
http://youtu.be/4-yXNeGny74
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Well when they were playing, I supported France :y, then the British team (England) :y, but now they got trashed bad luck or England ;D ;D............However, look on the bright side at least they got through to play, unlike the other British team (Scotland) ::)
Oh and as Andy Murray said, ''I am not British, I am Scottish'' :P
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It was a very disturbing game for many reasons.... the one main reason, like JonnyCool mentioned, that we are nowhere near to the top teams. We were tipped to beat Italy who hadn't really shined and OMG the only reason they didn't win 8-0 was cos of their impotency in front of goal.
A win on penalties woould have led us to Germany where no amount of luck would have helped.
Wellbeck was marking Purlo when he dropped deep..... for about 10 mins. He seemed to forget to mark him after that. And cos our midfield was sooooo deep he had plenty of space to knock it around. They also had lots of joy down our right. There just never seemed to be anyone defending on the right. :-\
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I think we British are right to expect a home side (in this case England) to give a good showing in European or for that matter world cup ) football.
Football in Britain is a very very well paid occupation, nay Industry. True there are other countries with as well paid leagues. Spain and Italy for example. So it is fair that our expectation is for a good team and that we put in a good showing.. Maybe we did all that was expected and have to expect to be beaten by Italy, Spain and Germany. For me that isn't good enough. They are similar sized countries and don't have a vastly larger pool of people to become talented players. Maybe we are trying to field too many home sides. Perhaps we ought to just have a Great Britain team.............. Come on Britain lets show em in the World Cup. :y
In the meantime come on Esapana !!
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I think we British are right to expect a home side (in this case England) to give a good showing in European or for that matter world cup ) football.
Football in Britain is a very very well paid occupation, nay Industry. True there are other countries with as well paid leagues. Spain and Italy for example. So it is fair that our expectation is for a good team and that we put in a good showing.. Maybe we did all that was expected and have to expect to be beaten by Italy, Spain and Germany. For me that isn't good enough. They are similar sized countries and don't have a vastly larger pool of people to become talented players. Maybe we are trying to field too many home sides. Perhaps we ought to just have a Great Britain team.............. Come on Britain lets show em in the World Cup. :y
In the meantime come on Esapana !!
;D ;D :y
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Ive always believed we should have had a U.K. team rather than four seperate teams.Imagine what would have happened if George Best had played on the international stage with team mates like Moore,Charlton, etc. - unbeatable I would think.
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I think we British are right to expect a home side (in this case England) to give a good showing in European or for that matter world cup ) football.
Football in Britain is a very very well paid occupation, nay Industry. True there are other countries with as well paid leagues. Spain and Italy for example. So it is fair that our expectation is for a good team and that we put in a good showing.. Maybe we did all that was expected and have to expect to be beaten by Italy, Spain and Germany. For me that isn't good enough. They are similar sized countries and don't have a vastly larger pool of people to become talented players. Maybe we are trying to field too many home sides. Perhaps we ought to just have a Great Britain team.............. Come on Britain lets show em in the World Cup. :y
In the meantime come on Esapana !!
Absolutely no way. I personally don't consider myself British. I'm English and would hate to think I'm cheering on Welsh or even worse SCOTTISH players. Nar way
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Enter ralf (http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u55/BJ_BOBBI_JO9/Dance%20and%20music%20related/5_1_1171.gif)
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Enter ralf (http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u55/BJ_BOBBI_JO9/Dance%20and%20music%20related/5_1_1171.gif)
;D nar apparently he's german....although he has the broadest welsh accent. :-\
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Webby,Im sure that if a Scottish/Welsh/Northern Irish player knocked in a goal to win the world cup for the British nation you would surely be a happy man. ;)
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Webby,Im sure that if a Scottish/Welsh/Northern Irish player knocked in a goal to win the world cup for the British nation you would surely be a happy man. ;)
'Fraid not Albs. :y
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Webby,Im sure that if a Scottish/Welsh/Northern Irish player knocked in a goal to win the world cup for the British nation you would surely be a happy man. ;)
'Fraid not Albs. :y
And it is a mindset such as this that will forever cause a uk/British team to be forever 'English' in the eye of both the (english) masses and the commentators.
And why there is wonderment in the (enger)land at those in Wales, Ireland and Scotland who want independence from englandshire...... ;D
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i am not saying anything till its over ;D ;D ;D
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Germany won't win, its either Spain or Portugal. As much as I don't like Ronaldo, he is on fire at the moment.
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Webby,Im sure that if a Scottish/Welsh/Northern Irish player knocked in a goal to win the world cup for the British nation you would surely be a happy man. ;)
'Fraid not Albs. :y
And it is a mindset such as this that will forever cause a uk/British team to be forever 'English' in the eye of both the (english) masses and the commentators.
And why there is wonderment in the (enger)land at those in Wales, Ireland and Scotland who want independence from englandshire...... ;D
I'd love independence. And there's no wonderment. I believe the other home nations need England more than we need them.
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Germany won't win, its either Spain or Portugal. As much as I don't like Ronaldo, he is on fire at the moment.
???? ;D ;D
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Germany won't win, its either Spain or Portugal. As much as I don't like Ronaldo, he is on fire at the moment.
Agreed , what a poser ::)
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Why dont you think the Germans will win it Tunnie? it's odds on for a Spain Germany final.
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Germany won't win, its either Spain or Portugal. As much as I don't like Ronaldo, he is on fire at the moment.
Agreed , what a poser ::)
Yup, no doubt about that. But he was quite impressive in the Czech Republic game
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Why dont you think the Germans will win it Tunnie? it's odds on for a Spain Germany final.
They'll beat Italy, but can't see them winning, plus no one likes the Germans ;D
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Why dont you think the Germans will win it Tunnie? it's odds on for a Spain Germany final.
They'll beat Italy, but can't see them winning, plus no one likes the Germans ;D
many people like the germans mate ;D ;D
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Why dont you think the Germans will win it Tunnie? it's odds on for a Spain Germany final.
They'll beat Italy, but can't see them winning, plus no one likes the Germans ;D
many people like the germans mate ;D ;D
Fairly confident they don't Ralf ;D ;D
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why just because they are good at football and they can beat england when it counts ;D
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Why dont you think the Germans will win it Tunnie? it's odds on for a Spain Germany final.
They'll beat Italy, but can't see them winning, plus no one likes the Germans ;D
many people like the germans mate ;D ;D
Only Germans ;)
Over the past 100 years they have managed to systematically pish off nearly every nation with a couple of pointless wars which they lost, they started WW3 (the Euro) loosing that too.
One particular religious faith won't have many fans either :-X
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I remember an interesting chat I had with an elderly couple once, the wife was proud to tell me that they were going to Germany that year on holiday. It was the first time for her, but said that her husband had already been there before. At which point the husband interrupted and said, "Yes, last time I was there, I was shooting the b@stards"
Priceless ;D ;D ;D
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I remember an interesting chat I had with an elderly couple once, the wife was proud to tell me that they were going to Germany that year on holiday. It was the first time for her, but said that her husband had already been there before. At which point the husband interrupted and said, "Yes, last time I was there, I was shooting the b@stards"
Priceless ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Why dont you think the Germans will win it Tunnie? it's odds on for a Spain Germany final.
They'll beat Italy, but can't see them winning, plus no one likes the Germans ;D
many people like the germans mate ;D ;D
Only Germans ;)
Over the past 100 years they have managed to systematically pish off nearly every nation with a couple of pointless wars which they lost, they started WW3 (the Euro) loosing that too.
One particular religious faith won't have many fans either :-X
you know you can be done for rascist remarks like that >:( >:(
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Here we go....
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I am going on holiday soon to Mallorca or Majorca if you prefer. I am going to Paguera, it is full of Germans. I go ther because it is full of Germans. Why, because they know how to behave. There is no drunks no fights no problems. Just up the road is Magaluf. It is full of British people, getting drunk, fighting etc.
I want a holiday not trouble.
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I am going on holiday soon to Mallorca or Majorca if you prefer. I am going to Paguera, it is full of Germans. I go ther because it is full of Germans. Why, because they know how to behave. There is no drunks no fights no problems. Just up the road is Magaluf. It is full of British people, getting drunk, fighting etc.
I want a holiday not trouble.
well said :y
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I am going on holiday soon to Mallorca or Majorca if you prefer. I am going to Paguera, it is full of Germans. I go ther because it is full of Germans. Why, because they know how to behave. There is no drunks no fights no problems. Just up the road is Magaluf. It is full of British people, getting drunk, fighting etc.
I want a holiday not trouble.
well said :y
The germans can't fight anyway, they just stand there and try to slap you :P :-X :-X
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I am going on holiday soon to Mallorca or Majorca if you prefer. I am going to Paguera, it is full of Germans. I go ther because it is full of Germans. Why, because they know how to behave. There is no drunks no fights no problems. Just up the road is Magaluf. It is full of British people, getting drunk, fighting etc.
I want a holiday not trouble.
well said :y
The germans can't fight anyway, they just stand there and try to slap you :P :-X :-X
you dont know many then :-X
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I am going on holiday soon to Mallorca or Majorca if you prefer. I am going to Paguera, it is full of Germans. I go ther because it is full of Germans. Why, because they know how to behave. There is no drunks no fights no problems. Just up the road is Magaluf. It is full of British people, getting drunk, fighting etc.
I want a holiday not trouble.
well said :y
The germans can't fight anyway, they just stand there and try to slap you :P :-X :-X
you dont know many then :-X
Now don't you go all serious on me now ;D ;D ;D
I spent 3 years out in sausage land and loved every minute of it :y
Been back out there 3 times in the last 20 years.
Last time with my family :)
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Germany won't win, its either Spain or Portugal. As much as I don't like Ronaldo, he is on fire at the moment.
.. if the Germans lend them the money for the flights. ;)
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I am going on holiday soon to Mallorca or Majorca if you prefer. I am going to Paguera, it is full of Germans. I go ther because it is full of Germans. Why, because they know how to behave. There is no drunks no fights no problems. Just up the road is Magaluf. It is full of British people, getting drunk, fighting etc.
I want a holiday not trouble.
well said :y
The germans can't fight anyway, they just stand there and try to slap you :P :-X :-X
you dont know many then :-X
Now don't you go all serious on me now ;D ;D ;D
I spent 3 years out in sausage land and loved every minute of it :y
Been back out there 3 times in the last 20 years.
Last time with my family :)
sorry mate just had to much of anti german remarks
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I am going on holiday soon to Mallorca or Majorca if you prefer. I am going to Paguera, it is full of Germans. I go ther because it is full of Germans. Why, because they know how to behave. There is no drunks no fights no problems. Just up the road is Magaluf. It is full of British people, getting drunk, fighting etc.
I want a holiday not trouble.
well said :y
The germans can't fight anyway, they just stand there and try to slap you :P :-X :-X
you dont know many then :-X
Now don't you go all serious on me now ;D ;D ;D
I spent 3 years out in sausage land and loved every minute of it :y
Been back out there 3 times in the last 20 years.
Last time with my family :)
sorry mate just had to much of anti german remarks
No worrys :)
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It is a game and we are not good enough to win, get over it :D
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We expect more than they will ever be capable of.
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I think we British are right to expect a home side (in this case England) to give a good showing in European or for that matter world cup ) football.
Football in Britain is a very very well paid occupation, nay Industry. True there are other countries with as well paid leagues. Spain and Italy for example. So it is fair that our expectation is for a good team and that we put in a good showing.. Maybe we did all that was expected and have to expect to be beaten by Italy, Spain and Germany. For me that isn't good enough. They are similar sized countries and don't have a vastly larger pool of people to become talented players. Maybe we are trying to field too many home sides. Perhaps we ought to just have a Great Britain team.............. Come on Britain lets show em in the World Cup. :y
In the meantime come on Esapana !!
Absolutely no way. I personally don't consider myself British. I'm English and would hate to think I'm cheering on Welsh or even worse SCOTTISH players. Nar way
Hey Webby, check your passport. ;) You'll find it is a British passport, not an English one :y
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I am going on holiday soon to Mallorca or Majorca if you prefer. I am going to Paguera, it is full of Germans. I go ther because it is full of Germans. Why, because they know how to behave. There is no drunks no fights no problems. Just up the road is Magaluf. It is full of British people, getting drunk, fighting etc.
I want a holiday not trouble.
well said :y
The germans can't fight anyway, they just stand there and try to slap you :P :-X :-X
you dont know many then :-X
Now don't you go all serious on me now ;D ;D ;D
I spent 3 years out in sausage land and loved every minute of it :y
Been back out there 3 times in the last 20 years.
Last time with my family :)
sorry mate just had to much of anti german remarks
Yeah, the old cliches do get a tad boring, don't they? ;) Especially whilst living in Germany and getting a view on how they feel about things in history. Which I believe would be quite suprisng to most.
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I am going on holiday soon to Mallorca or Majorca if you prefer. I am going to Paguera, it is full of Germans. I go ther because it is full of Germans. Why, because they know how to behave. There is no drunks no fights no problems. Just up the road is Magaluf. It is full of British people, getting drunk, fighting etc.
I want a holiday not trouble.
well said :y
The germans can't fight anyway, they just stand there and try to slap you :P :-X :-X
you dont know many then :-X
Now don't you go all serious on me now ;D ;D ;D
I spent 3 years out in sausage land and loved every minute of it :y
Been back out there 3 times in the last 20 years.
Last time with my family :)
sorry mate just had to much of anti german remarks
Yeah, the old cliches do get a tad boring, don't they? ;) Especially whilst living in Germany and getting a view on how they feel about things in history. Which I believe would be quite suprisng to most.
Would you elaborate on that a bit mate? I'm genuinely interested
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I am going on holiday soon to Mallorca or Majorca if you prefer. I am going to Paguera, it is full of Germans. I go ther because it is full of Germans. Why, because they know how to behave. There is no drunks no fights no problems. Just up the road is Magaluf. It is full of British people, getting drunk, fighting etc.
I want a holiday not trouble.
well said :y
The germans can't fight anyway, they just stand there and try to slap you :P :-X :-X
you dont know many then :-X
Now don't you go all serious on me now ;D ;D ;D
I spent 3 years out in sausage land and loved every minute of it :y
Been back out there 3 times in the last 20 years.
Last time with my family :)
sorry mate just had to much of anti german remarks
Yeah, the old cliches do get a tad boring, don't they? ;) Especially whilst living in Germany and getting a view on how they feel about things in history. Which I believe would be quite suprisng to most.
Would you elaborate on that a bit mate? I'm genuinely interested
yes me too
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I think we British are right to expect a home side (in this case England) to give a good showing in European or for that matter world cup ) football.
Football in Britain is a very very well paid occupation, nay Industry. True there are other countries with as well paid leagues. Spain and Italy for example. So it is fair that our expectation is for a good team and that we put in a good showing.. Maybe we did all that was expected and have to expect to be beaten by Italy, Spain and Germany. For me that isn't good enough. They are similar sized countries and don't have a vastly larger pool of people to become talented players. Maybe we are trying to field too many home sides. Perhaps we ought to just have a Great Britain team.............. Come on Britain lets show em in the World Cup. :y
In the meantime come on Esapana !!
Absolutely no way. I personally don't consider myself British. I'm English and would hate to think I'm cheering on Welsh or even worse SCOTTISH players. Nar way
Hey Webby, check your passport. ;) You'll find it is a British passport, not an English one :y
can't beat a good German porn film. dat is good ya! ;)
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'hmmmmm' ??? Nothing changes !! Arriving in England at 4 years of age, it was very hard dealing with all the abuse. 'Bl**dy Eyeties ran away in the war'.. I was FOUR years old ?? There were no authorities for us to turn to, no help offered from any quarter.
It seems we cannot win whatever we do ? But I really must respond to one remark imparticular made in this thread.
but in my opinion whatever italians win, they dont deserve!! some years ago they beat brasil by a poor game, they only stand in defence..
and brasil had a bad goal keeper.. they only came 3 times and all 3 ended with goal..
macaronis dont play well .. I have no doubt about it.. Could this be considered a racist comment in some PC circles ??
But while we are at it Cem, and thinking of National Pride. We, 'Italy', ONLY have 'FOUR'world cup stars on our team shirts, unlike Turkey who have qualified for the finals 3 times ?? In 1950. 1954 & 2002. ' Fabulous.
The Turkish National Team is according to the FIFA World Rankings, ranked 25th in the world.
Us Italians simply cannot compete, after all, Italy is the second most successful national team in the history of the World Cup... 'Macaronis'.. O.K. You 'Doners'... ;)
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I agree with Jusme actually, Cem - not your greatest post mate
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Come on spain ;D :y
Spain 4 Portugal 1 :P
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Come on spain ;D :y
Spain 4 Portugal 1 :P
Yep, I also hope Spain win. I am not going to guess a scoreline though as I have been wrong on every gam so far ::)
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My goodness could Nani fall over anymore ;D ;D
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I am going on holiday soon to Mallorca or Majorca if you prefer. I am going to Paguera, it is full of Germans. I go ther because it is full of Germans. Why, because they know how to behave. There is no drunks no fights no problems. Just up the road is Magaluf. It is full of British people, getting drunk, fighting etc.
I want a holiday not trouble.
well said :y
The germans can't fight anyway, they just stand there and try to slap you :P :-X :-X
you dont know many then :-X
Now don't you go all serious on me now ;D ;D ;D
I spent 3 years out in sausage land and loved every minute of it :y
Been back out there 3 times in the last 20 years.
Last time with my family :)
sorry mate just had to much of anti german remarks
Yeah, the old cliches do get a tad boring, don't they? ;) Especially whilst living in Germany and getting a view on how they feel about things in history. Which I believe would be quite suprisng to most.
Would you elaborate on that a bit mate? I'm genuinely interested
yes me too
I will, sure, but not now. Just got in from work. And I'll post under a separate thread.
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'hmmmmm' ??? Nothing changes !! Arriving in England at 4 years of age, it was very hard dealing with all the abuse. 'Bl**dy Eyeties ran away in the war'.. I was FOUR years old ?? There were no authorities for us to turn to, no help offered from any quarter.
It seems we cannot win whatever we do ? But I really must respond to one remark imparticular made in this thread.
but in my opinion whatever italians win, they dont deserve!! some years ago they beat brasil by a poor game, they only stand in defence..
and brasil had a bad goal keeper.. they only came 3 times and all 3 ended with goal..
macaronis dont play well .. I have no doubt about it.. Could this be considered a racist comment in some PC circles ??
But while we are at it Cem, and thinking of National Pride. We, 'Italy', ONLY have 'FOUR'world cup stars on our team shirts, unlike Turkey who have qualified for the finals 3 times ?? In 1950. 1954 & 2002. ' Fabulous.
The Turkish National Team is according to the FIFA World Rankings, ranked 25th in the world.
Us Italians simply cannot compete, after all, Italy is the second most successful national team in the history of the World Cup... 'Macaronis'.. O.K. You 'Doners'... ;)
Macaronis, you may be better than us.. but dont tell me playing a game based on defence is football ;D
and a note: I'm 46 years old and watched several world cups.. top of the list is always occupied by south america teams like brasil and argentina.. admit it.. none of the european teams are even close whatever the result is .. ;)
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Penalties again. Happy bunny now, and what a shame ronaldo never got to take a penalty ::)
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The best team won :y :y :y :y
Ronaldo face , priceless ;D
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I think we British are right to expect a home side (in this case England) to give a good showing in European or for that matter world cup ) football.
Football in Britain is a very very well paid occupation, nay Industry. True there are other countries with as well paid leagues. Spain and Italy for example. So it is fair that our expectation is for a good team and that we put in a good showing.. Maybe we did all that was expected and have to expect to be beaten by Italy, Spain and Germany. For me that isn't good enough. They are similar sized countries and don't have a vastly larger pool of people to become talented players. Maybe we are trying to field too many home sides. Perhaps we ought to just have a Great Britain team.............. Come on Britain lets show em in the World Cup. :y
In the meantime come on Esapana !!
Absolutely no way. I personally don't consider myself British. I'm English and would hate to think I'm cheering on Welsh or even worse SCOTTISH players. Nar way
Hey Webby, check your passport. ;) You'll find it is a British passport, not an English one :y
This is correct.... don't have to like it though :y
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The best team won :y :y :y :y
Ronaldo face , priceless ;D
he's a woman trapped in a man's body. does he think he's some sort of god or something
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Well Cem.. I'm 64 and have watched a few world cup tournaments, does that mean I know what I'm talking about ?
But I must agree with you about it always being South American countries winning, as we can see from this :
< The 19 World Cup tournaments have been won by eight different national teams. Brazil have won five times, and they are the only team to have played in every tournament. The other World Cup winners are Italy, with four titles; Germany, with three titles; Argentina and inaugural winners Uruguay, with two titles each; and England, France, and Spain, with one title each.>
Errrmmm doesn't that put Italy in second place.. :y There you go my old Doner.. :y
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Well Cem.. I'm 64 and have watched a few world cup tournaments, does that mean I know what I'm talking about ?
But I must agree with you about it always being South American countries winning, as we can see from this :
< The 19 World Cup tournaments have been won by eight different national teams. Brazil have won five times, and they are the only team to have played in every tournament. The other World Cup winners are Italy, with four titles; Germany, with three titles; Argentina and inaugural winners Uruguay, with two titles each; and England, France, and Spain, with one title each.>
Errrmmm doesn't that put Italy in second place.. :y There you go my old Doner.. :y
lets say if football organizations change a simple rule and limit the number of defence players in your field (or some other rule) which I do believe to be definitely necessary , italy wont have any chance.. honestly speaking I dont enjoy to watch their game, its football not chess .. and besides you may be successful in defence , but what happens if most teams try your tactics.. and even a weak team can get good results with 11 man defence.. ;D
sorry but I'm not a fan of italian football style.. :y
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Totally agree Cem concerning defensive playing. As far as I'm concerned it helped to lose England the match. They tried to play Italy at its own game, while Italy were prepared to move forward. So very many times during that game, I couldn't help but notice that as soon as Italy got the ball a yard into the English half, There were at least 6 white shirts in the penalty box ?? Yes I'm an Italian, but for me John Terry was just about the best player in that match.
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I am going on holiday soon to Mallorca or Majorca if you prefer. I am going to Paguera, it is full of Germans. I go ther because it is full of Germans. Why, because they know how to behave. There is no drunks no fights no problems. Just up the road is Magaluf. It is full of British people, getting drunk, fighting etc.
I want a holiday not trouble.
well said :y
The germans can't fight anyway, they just stand there and try to slap you :P :-X :-X
you dont know many then :-X
Now don't you go all serious on me now ;D ;D ;D
I spent 3 years out in sausage land and loved every minute of it :y
Been back out there 3 times in the last 20 years.
Last time with my family :)
sorry mate just had to much of anti german remarks
Yeah, the old cliches do get a tad boring, don't they? ;) Especially whilst living in Germany and getting a view on how they feel about things in history. Which I believe would be quite suprisng to most.
Would you elaborate on that a bit mate? I'm genuinely interested
yes me too
I will, sure, but not now. Just got in from work. And I'll post under a separate thread.
Yes I too would be interested in the German man in the street view. One aspect I would be interested in is areas like repaying war debts and how the two economies were helped by "aid" after the war? Britain for example only just finished paying back their 50 year loan to the Americans.
For what it is worth the average man in the Spanish street has zero understanding of the huge financial, social and economic impacts that WW2 had on the participating countries. I find that truly staggering but then if you ask the "ordinary man in the street" in Britain about the impact of the Spanish Civil War most wouldn't have a clue.
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Not read the entire thread, but have to say, on the day, the best team won.
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Well Cem.. I'm 64 and have watched a few world cup tournaments, does that mean I know what I'm talking about ?
But I must agree with you about it always being South American countries winning, as we can see from this :
< The 19 World Cup tournaments have been won by eight different national teams. Brazil have won five times, and they are the only team to have played in every tournament. The other World Cup winners are Italy, with four titles; Germany, with three titles; Argentina and inaugural winners Uruguay, with two titles each; and England, France, and Spain, with one title each.>
Errrmmm doesn't that put Italy in second place.. :y There you go my old Doner.. :y
lets say if football organizations change a simple rule and limit the number of defence players in your field (or some other rule) which I do believe to be definitely necessary , italy wont have any chance.. honestly speaking I dont enjoy to watch their game, its football not chess .. and besides you may be successful in defence , but what happens if most teams try your tactics.. and even a weak team can get good results with 11 man defence.. ;D
sorry but I'm not a fan of italian football style.. :y
as I said.. Italy changed their game style and the result was as expected.. besides they made fouls even to goalkeepers ???
http://www.kure.tv/webtv/788-spor/euro-2012-ispanya-italya-maci-ozeti-ilk-yari/3404-Bolum/119405/ (http://www.kure.tv/webtv/788-spor/euro-2012-ispanya-italya-maci-ozeti-ilk-yari/3404-Bolum/119405/)
must admit , spain played better than their avg :y
and balotelli: this game must be played with mind and logic , not with anger ;D
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and whats more interesting , the final game is played by eurozones 2 biggest worst economies ::)