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Re: Rear bearing needs replacing
« Reply #45 on: 13 April 2016, 21:27:29 »

The bearing isn't a particularly tight fit, so you're jammed on something. Check that the plate will easily fit through the hole in the hub carrier. I broke the end off the puller studding not paying enough attention to that. Welding up new tools the first time you use them isn't fun.
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Re: Rear bearing needs replacing
« Reply #46 on: 13 April 2016, 22:07:44 »

Cheers Nick. Think I must be using the wrong insert. Probably need to use #07. Will see if I can undo the tool tomorrow. :)
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Re: Rear bearing needs replacing
« Reply #47 on: 13 April 2016, 22:48:24 »

Yep wrong insert. Didn't realise it should be so much smaller. #11 if that means much. There is quite a lip at the back and you are pushing against the inner race rather than the outer. I wasn't thinking this one through as to how the housing is constructed. Silly me, showing my mechanical inexperience :-\. It's moving but it's dark now and raining, strange that here in Wales :D Hopefully get it out tomorrow.
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Re: Rear bearing needs replacing
« Reply #48 on: 16 April 2016, 08:46:01 »



So folks. If you are using a bearing removal tool such as the one like Nicks then be aware that the blank that you use to remove the bearing at the rear is very much smaller than the one you use at the front to get the new bearing back in. There was quite a bit of rust at the back and at first I put on too big a blank as it was difficult to see exactly what was needed.
Nick is right: The bearing winds out quite easily and if it gets really stiff you are probably jammed on something.
Putting the new bearing in was really easy. I had mine in the freezer for a while but it still needed pulling in with the tool.
The next job was getting the big circlip in. I don't have a big enough pair of pliers and there seemed no way of tapping it in. Necessity is the mother of invention: I took the point off of two shiny nails that fitted in the circlip holes. Insert them so that they are protruding about 2mm. You have to use a pair of water pump pliers or similar up against the circlip to squeeze the nails together whilst using a slim cold chisel or similar the other side to ensure that the nails stay roughly parallel. I was able to compress the circlip enough the get it mostly in and then tap it in the final bit with a screwdriver. I'm sure the health and safety officer wouldn't have been impressed as there is a chance of everything springing apart. In my defense I wore some safety glasses :y
Reassembled the drum brakes which was easier with the hub out of the way. Thanks Nick for recommending this as they are a bit tricky.
To get the hub back in you have to use washers or similar up against the new bearing and wind it in. I fortunately had some old heavy duty pipe of the correct diameter that I could cut into various lengths, about 1.5cm and 0.5cm, and also used the old inner race I had cut off. I wouldn't have been able to do it with just the old inner races as there is not enough thread on the hub to just pull it through. This job was pretty awkward as you are trying to keep the hub stationary with the pry bar whilst getting the socket on properly at the back. I'm glad I had bought a long reach ratchet as you can only turn the nut a small amount each time.
Putting the drive flange back on is a similar exercise. I found that I had to tap it on gently before I had enough thread at the back to be able to get the nut on. The final tensioning of the nut is 300NM. This is equivalent to 30kg at 1 metre which is pretty tight but doable. Just be careful to keep the socket on square to the nut. It is a very shallow nut and it's easy to slip off it when you are trying to get big pressure on it.
Will get the drive shaft and disc brakes back together today to finish the job, hopefully :D
 


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Re: Rear bearing needs replacing
« Reply #49 on: 17 April 2016, 18:35:46 »

I is well pleased 8). Took the car for a test drive today and everything is whisper quiet. I honestly couldn't have done this without the excellent advice I have received from everyone here. I'd like to give special thanks to Nick W who responded to my requests for help in double quick time. It was like having an experienced mechanic looking over my shoulder.
The job took a long time as you have to figure your way around problems and weld up tools to pull and push things.
I think if I had to do the other side I could now have it done in 2-3 hours.
I would tell others here to not be afraid of this job. If I can do it then so can you.  :y
You need the bearing puller kit. A breaker bar and long reach ratchet. Be sure you have the hex drives and 32mm socket. Make or borrow the push/pull tools.
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Re: Rear bearing needs replacing
« Reply #50 on: 17 April 2016, 19:56:13 »

Congratulations! Thanks for sharing the battle with us. I do not have any welding kit or skills, so I am not confident I could do it, but your achievement gives me hope. At the moment I have no Omega in need of this repair. I had one, but scrapped it. Next time I will have a go.
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Re: Rear bearing needs replacing
« Reply #51 on: 17 April 2016, 21:53:20 »

Thanks Terry. If you ever need it, I can lend you the bearing puller and the strap I made to get the drive flange off. It would only cost a few quid to send. The only tricky bit then would be to get the hub out of the bearing. Ideally you need a tool like Nicks pipe job. I didn't have this or the spline tools to get the brake backing plate off in order to bolt the tool on. I just used a block of wood to bash the bearing out a little then some angle iron to jack it off using the wheel nuts.
So happy to have my car back. The missus is happy that I wont need to keep borrowing her smart car any more. I may though as MOT on mine is due 1st May  :-\
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Re: Rear bearing needs replacing
« Reply #52 on: 18 April 2016, 08:31:47 »

Thanks for the offer. I suspect one day I shall take it up. Unlike some of our members, I love my Omegas, have six of them, and am aware of no more desirable transport. All my cars have are 13+ years and 100K miles old, and things fail. I can do many common jobs on them, but not rear wheel bearings; my next big challenge.
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Re: Rear bearing needs replacing
« Reply #53 on: 18 April 2016, 17:48:47 »

No problem Terry. I agree. Can't think what I would get otherwise. I usually have one at a time but this is my third. I've had a 2.5TD, a 2.0 CDX lpg and currently 3.2V6 elite lpg. The V6 sounds fab!
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Re: Rear bearing needs replacing
« Reply #54 on: 16 May 2016, 10:31:25 »

is it best to replace BOTH rear bearings at the same time, because knowing my luck, the other will start to go after a couple of miles lol
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Re: Rear bearing needs replacing
« Reply #55 on: 16 May 2016, 11:12:27 »

is it best to replace BOTH rear bearings at the same time, because knowing my luck, the other will start to go after a couple of miles lol

No. They're not a normal service part, and it's impossible to say when they will fail. Most Omegas are scrapped with both original bearings still working well. I replaced my OSR bearing 3years ago; the NSR one is still original.
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