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[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

but with a home charger this is not a problem unless you drive more than 220-240 miles each day.

Assuming you need to use it on consecutive days, you're probably in the realms of a max of 60-80 miles a day, if you want to use cheap rate home charging only.

From my experience, that's possibly a bit pessimistic. My lifetime average according to the app (which is close enough that I CBA to work out the actuals after the first 3 months of ownership) is apparently 3.1 miles per kwh, which means 217 miles per 'tank'. On a miles basis >90% of its work is motorway; either Telford -> Warwick (me), Telford -> Northampton (her) or 3 junctions up the M54 (School run). She drives everywhere on the speed limit, I drive at around 80 leptons when traffic permits, but given we commute, there's a fair bit of stop-start involved along with the poxy variable speed limits around Brummie land. If I have late meetings, speed goes up, range comes down, 1.7 miles per kwh is the worst I've seen iirc. 

Octopus gives me 6hrs per day at 7p (down from 7.5p earlier this year) so that's a theoretical 42kwh per day, although admittedly its probably closer to 35 ish. Even so, the tesla would be more efficient (3.5+ miles per kwh at least) so should be able to maintain 120+ miles per day. Also, in fairness to Octopus, if I plug in when I get home at 7pm, they usually find more than 6hrs of cheap electricity between then and my usual leave time of around 5-5.30am.

I wish Jaguar could make the maths so simple.......but they prefer the arse over tit method of maths.

Readout for the last 1200 miles shows 35.9Kwh consumed per 100 miles......which works out at
2.78miles per Kw.

Still, it has (apparently) 84.7 KW of 'usable battery  so....236 miles.

But that is in the summer. When the weather gets as cold as a witches tit this figure will drop.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Ive heard that Insurance is much more expensive on EV,s. Is this true ?

Roughly £300.

[tunnie]

but with a home charger this is not a problem unless you drive more than 220-240 miles each day.

Assuming you need to use it on consecutive days, you're probably in the realms of a max of 60-80 miles a day, if you want to use cheap rate home charging only.

From my experience, that's possibly a bit pessimistic. My lifetime average according to the app (which is close enough that I CBA to work out the actuals after the first 3 months of ownership) is apparently 3.1 miles per kwh, which means 217 miles per 'tank'. On a miles basis >90% of its work is motorway; either Telford -> Warwick (me), Telford -> Northampton (her) or 3 junctions up the M54 (School run). She drives everywhere on the speed limit, I drive at around 80 leptons when traffic permits, but given we commute, there's a fair bit of stop-start involved along with the poxy variable speed limits around Brummie land. If I have late meetings, speed goes up, range comes down, 1.7 miles per kwh is the worst I've seen iirc. 

Octopus gives me 6hrs per day at 7p (down from 7.5p earlier this year) so that's a theoretical 42kwh per day, although admittedly its probably closer to 35 ish. Even so, the tesla would be more efficient (3.5+ miles per kwh at least) so should be able to maintain 120+ miles per day. Also, in fairness to Octopus, if I plug in when I get home at 7pm, they usually find more than 6hrs of cheap electricity between then and my usual leave time of around 5-5.30am.

That's good to know around the 120 mile per night

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Exactly. your never going to get that from a posh milk float. 

Nope, but then again if my miles rocket to 20k a year, I'd prefer the fact a Tesla would cost me just a fiver to "fill" it. Plus I never have to buy tyres or service or MOT it or do anything really! 

Little MissT starts big school thats 15 miles away, if I end up driving her, I might as well carry onto the office.....

There are other options, we are waiting to see if she gets on the private run bus to the state school, but it's £145/m 

Public bus is an option, but given where I'd have to drive so she can pick it up, I might as well just drive to the school. So that plus tax savings are pushing me to the EV's.

Shame as I really loving the 435i, smooth power, the sound, no complaints.

Hardly seems a year or two ago when you were a young undergraduate who TB constantly referred to as "the useless student".
They grow up so fast. 

[TheBoy]

Hardly seems a year or two ago when you were a young undergraduate who TB constantly referred to as "the useless student".
They grow up so fast. 

He'll always be the useless student.

Thats why many of my very long term friends still call my the boy....

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

 

[Doctor Gollum]

Recharging at work is great but the instant it is subsidised, it becomes a benefit, and probably taxable. No one is able to buy subsidised petrol/diesel at work so being provided subsidised charging at work is arguably discrimination against people who can't afford an EV or one isn't practical.

If Junction 10 is jammed up, I will use A31/A331/M3 to bypass it which makes sense because it adds zero extra distance as well as time saved Vs time sat in traffic. (It also affords the option of the A30 if the M25 is really bad). Unless you HAVE to drive to Woking to take the kids to school, going that way to get to the M3 is utter madness. Especially when you live next to the M3 and just off the A30.

[TheBoy]

If Junction 10 is jammed up, I will use A31/A331/M3 to bypass it which makes sense because it adds zero extra distance as well as time saved Vs time sat in traffic. (It also affords the option of the A30 if the M25 is really bad). Unless you HAVE to drive to Woking to take the kids to school, going that way to get to the M3 is utter madness. Especially when you live next to the M3 and just off the A30.

That's obviously a short term issue.  Well, given the way civil engineering is these days, probably not that short term. But planned to be finished within the next 12 months.

Clearly replacing a roundabout with traffic lights on (thus snarling up the motorway) with a slightly larger roundabout with traffic lights on will totally cure the problem there, and  well worth £300m. Not.


As for Tunnie driving to Woking, given what Woking is like, he'll have to fight off the prozzie's at every set of traffic lights

[ronnyd]

If Junction 10 is jammed up, I will use A31/A331/M3 to bypass it which makes sense because it adds zero extra distance as well as time saved Vs time sat in traffic. (It also affords the option of the A30 if the M25 is really bad). Unless you HAVE to drive to Woking to take the kids to school, going that way to get to the M3 is utter madness. Especially when you live next to the M3 and just off the A30.

That's obviously a short term issue.  Well, given the way civil engineering is these days, probably not that short term. But planned to be finished within the next 12 months.

Clearly replacing a roundabout with traffic lights on (thus snarling up the motorway) with a slightly larger roundabout with traffic lights on will totally cure the problem there, and  well worth £300m. Not.


As for Tunnie driving to Woking, given what Woking is like, he'll have to fight off the prozzie's at every set of traffic lights

A proper red light district then.

[TheBoy]

Yup. I have family near there, and every time I drive into Woking, day or night, with or without the missus in the car, the prozzies come over....

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Ten pound love you long time. 
Or sucky f***y five pound.       

[STEMO]

Ten pound love you long time. 
Or sucky f***y five pound.       

There.....that proves the point I made on another thread. Ten pound?  Maybe 30 years ago 

[Doctor Gollum]

If Junction 10 is jammed up, I will use A31/A331/M3 to bypass it which makes sense because it adds zero extra distance as well as time saved Vs time sat in traffic. (It also affords the option of the A30 if the M25 is really bad). Unless you HAVE to drive to Woking to take the kids to school, going that way to get to the M3 is utter madness. Especially when you live next to the M3 and just off the A30.

That's obviously a short term issue.  Well, given the way civil engineering is these days, probably not that short term. But planned to be finished within the next 12 months.

Clearly replacing a roundabout with traffic lights on (thus snarling up the motorway) with a slightly larger roundabout with traffic lights on will totally cure the problem there, and  well worth £300m. Not.


As for Tunnie driving to Woking, given what Woking is like, he'll have to fight off the prozzie's at every set of traffic lights

The A3/M25 roundabout has had traffic lights on it since it was opened, certainly as long as I have been driving. They do seem to have improved things slightly though and looks like it might actually be completed on time

Tunnie does have a very odd sense of direction though...

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Ten pound love you long time. 
Or sucky f***y five pound.       

There.....that proves the point I made on another thread. Ten pound?  Maybe 30 years ago 

I wouldnt know, but it looks like you do. 

[TheBoy]

If Junction 10 is jammed up, I will use A31/A331/M3 to bypass it which makes sense because it adds zero extra distance as well as time saved Vs time sat in traffic. (It also affords the option of the A30 if the M25 is really bad). Unless you HAVE to drive to Woking to take the kids to school, going that way to get to the M3 is utter madness. Especially when you live next to the M3 and just off the A30.

That's obviously a short term issue.  Well, given the way civil engineering is these days, probably not that short term. But planned to be finished within the next 12 months.

Clearly replacing a roundabout with traffic lights on (thus snarling up the motorway) with a slightly larger roundabout with traffic lights on will totally cure the problem there, and  well worth £300m. Not.


As for Tunnie driving to Woking, given what Woking is like, he'll have to fight off the prozzie's at every set of traffic lights

The A3/M25 roundabout has had traffic lights on it since it was opened, certainly as long as I have been driving. They do seem to have improved things slightly though and looks like it might actually be completed on time

Tunnie does have a very odd sense of direction though...

Sorry, my point was about replacing a fair large roundabout with a slightly larger on with traffic lights will do SFA to the queues on both the M25 and the A3.

I was kinda hoping my regular trips to Guildford would soon come to an end, but after a discussion with one of our designers, it would appear not. Bugger.