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MV6 coolant leak (still)
« on: 28 March 2008, 21:33:04 »

Haven't had chance (or the weather!) to look at this yet.  However I did open the bonnet after shuffling the cars on driveway, and the steam is coming from around PAS/top rad hose area.

Already changed the top hose, what do you think I should check next?
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Re: MV6 coolant leak (still)
« Reply #1 on: 28 March 2008, 21:40:36 »

Didn't I read somewhere that the bit of plastic the top hose connects to on the radiator is a tad fragile and can break easily, especially if jubilee clips are used and overtightend ??

Might be worth a look ??  

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Re: MV6 coolant leak (still)
« Reply #2 on: 28 March 2008, 21:46:14 »

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Didn't I read somewhere that the bit of plastic the top hose connects to on the radiator is a tad fragile and can break easily, especially if jubilee clips are used and overtightend ??

Might be worth a look ??  

It doesn't appear to be from the rad end of hose, but I'll check again :y

My worry is the HG has gone, like MaxV6's, and leaking on the exhaust, as the steam was present after just moving the cars about...
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Re: MV6 coolant leak (still)
« Reply #3 on: 28 March 2008, 21:50:17 »

Radweld  ;)


See what happens

Youve nowt to lose

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Re: MV6 coolant leak (still)
« Reply #4 on: 28 March 2008, 22:19:10 »

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Radweld  ;)


See what happens

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<sharp intake of breath>

 ;D

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Re: MV6 coolant leak (still)
« Reply #5 on: 28 March 2008, 22:26:02 »

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Want to rule out other possibilities first.  I guess could be stat housing, seeing as it is that area.  Bit scared of doing the stat, never done one on V6, and heard that it can be nasty.
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Re: MV6 coolant leak (still)
« Reply #6 on: 28 March 2008, 22:29:18 »

I would go back to the topic of conversation of about a week ago. Remove the plenum and intake manifold then block / join the TB coolant pipes and  pressurise the system cold to see if you can spot a leak.

Edited to say: I've had coolant leaks where they are much worse when cold than hot in the past. I suspect the rubber hoses / seals swell a bit when hot and become softer so the leak seals a little. Maybe this is why it was obvious when you shuffled the car around. A bit of pressure built up but the coolant wasn't hot enough to seal it again.

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Re: MV6 coolant leak (still)
« Reply #7 on: 28 March 2008, 22:30:20 »

Yup, thats the thing to do....
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Re: MV6 coolant leak (still)
« Reply #8 on: 28 March 2008, 22:34:01 »

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I would go back to the topic of conversation of about a week ago. Remove the plenum and intake manifold then block / join the TB coolant pipes and  pressurise the system cold to see if you can spot a leak.

Edited to say: I've had coolant leaks where they are much worse when cold than hot in the past. I suspect the rubber hoses / seals swell a bit when hot and become softer so the leak seals a little. Maybe this is why it was obvious when you shuffled the car around. A bit of pressure built up but the coolant wasn't hot enough to seal it again.

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I reckon mines worse when cold.

Methinks I need to steal Marks modified cap to pressurise.  Reckon he'd notice if I replaced it with a normal one ;D
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Re: MV6 coolant leak (still)
« Reply #9 on: 28 March 2008, 22:37:47 »

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I would go back to the topic of conversation of about a week ago. Remove the plenum and intake manifold then block / join the TB coolant pipes and  pressurise the system cold to see if you can spot a leak.

Edited to say: I've had coolant leaks where they are much worse when cold than hot in the past. I suspect the rubber hoses / seals swell a bit when hot and become softer so the leak seals a little. Maybe this is why it was obvious when you shuffled the car around. A bit of pressure built up but the coolant wasn't hot enough to seal it again.

Kevin
 
I reckon mines worse when cold.

Methinks I need to steal Marks modified cap to pressurise.  Reckon he'd notice if I replaced it with a normal one ;D

 ;D

Failing that, have you got an airline connector / hose that'll push onto one of the TB coolant hoses / barbs? Block the other one and job's a good'un (obviously watch the pressure, but wind it up gradually to 1bar max.). I suspect you'll notice the leak with much less pressure than that.

Kevin
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Re: MV6 coolant leak (still)
« Reply #10 on: 28 March 2008, 22:43:44 »

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I would go back to the topic of conversation of about a week ago. Remove the plenum and intake manifold then block / join the TB coolant pipes and  pressurise the system cold to see if you can spot a leak.

Edited to say: I've had coolant leaks where they are much worse when cold than hot in the past. I suspect the rubber hoses / seals swell a bit when hot and become softer so the leak seals a little. Maybe this is why it was obvious when you shuffled the car around. A bit of pressure built up but the coolant wasn't hot enough to seal it again.

Kevin
 
I reckon mines worse when cold.

Methinks I need to steal Marks modified cap to pressurise.  Reckon he'd notice if I replaced it with a normal one ;D

 ;D

Failing that, have you got an airline connector / hose that'll push onto one of the TB coolant hoses / barbs? Block the other one and job's a good'un (obviously watch the pressure, but wind it up gradually to 1bar max.). I suspect you'll notice the leak with much less pressure than that.

Kevin
That could be an ideal if I can find a way of sealing it :y
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Re: MV6 coolant leak (still)
« Reply #11 on: 28 March 2008, 23:31:44 »

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Haven't had chance (or the weather!) to look at this yet.  However I did open the bonnet after shuffling the cars on driveway, and the steam is coming from around PAS/top rad hose area.

Already changed the top hose, what do you think I should check next?

Does sound to me to be the thermostat housing or transfer pipe TB not hard for a man with your Talent :y
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Re: MV6 coolant leak (still)
« Reply #12 on: 28 March 2008, 23:39:51 »

okay.....That rover hose will be in mail Monday.

MV6 - take the plenum off and all gubbings stat,stat housing etc is not a hard job - biggest issue for me is seperting the pipe and stat housing.

This may show you root cause - and also let you have a look at oil cooler plate.

If it doesnt - well its one thing more ruled out.
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Re: MV6 coolant leak (still)
« Reply #13 on: 29 March 2008, 11:37:18 »

Tried the pressure test thing (still with plenum on) by trying to plug on TB hose and pressurise other, but can't get a seal.

Have to see about getting some spare caps modified, and leave until then I think.
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Re: MV6 coolant leak (still)
« Reply #14 on: 29 March 2008, 12:38:24 »

I know this sort of thing is frowned upon, but if you've tried all other (cheap) avenues), before replacing the HG, you could try K-seal or 'steel-seal' (just Google "head gasket repair seal"

I haven't tried them, but as the previous poster said - what have you got to lose (£10 -£29) . I do know that Barsleaks worked for me when I had water p***ing out of a radiator once.
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